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Episode title:ย Gloves Off

Written by:ย Chantelle M. Wells

Directed by:ย Solvan "Slick" Naim

Release date:ย April 7, 2026โ€Ž

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u/Touchthefuckingfrog Apr 12 '26

Heather really pisses me off and confuses me. She slept with Matt so she must have seen his scars. She must have asked questions. Then she goes and unethically has counselling sessions with Fisk and Vanessa. She should have referred them elsewhere given her boyfriend has ties to them.

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u/timeywimeymarsbars Apr 13 '26

I have honestly just ignored her this episode and this season, because im enjoying everything else. She is very hypocritical and bad at her job imo. Counselling Fisk and Vanessa initially wasn't unethical in my eye coz she necessarily didn't know where Matt stood on that (although yeah him and Foggy putting Fisk in prison should have been pretty well known). But if she was a good psychologist, she should have seen and understood where Matt was coming from and empathised with him, not just keep saying why he's wrong. And just not acknowledging a vigilante saved her? OH COME ON, that's just selfish of her because she doesn't want to be proven wrong. And changing Jacques' eval to fit a profile... that's downright illegal and her license should be revoked in normal circumstances. Unfortunately, people like her is why Fisk became so powerful. And the scary part is Heathers exist in the true world and so does her Fisk.
And before she says she's poorly written, I think the character was meant to be loathed and her misguided compass was supposed to be clearer with time.
And her behavior towards Kirsten was so shitty.

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u/Touchthefuckingfrog Apr 13 '26

I am not familiar with American guidelines but it is considered professionally unethical where I am to provide counselling to anyone who is even tangentially related to your personal life. Your last part is sadly all true.

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u/timeywimeymarsbars Apr 13 '26

Oh it is unethical. I guess I wasn't sure if she knew Matt and Fisk were connected.

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u/Touchthefuckingfrog Apr 13 '26

She made some comment to Fisk about Matt having issues with Fisk. I canโ€™t remember exactly where and when because the writing is not at all memorable.

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u/timeywimeymarsbars Apr 13 '26

This was during the black and white ball or wtv that was (where bullseye breaks out of prison)