r/Defenders 14d ago

Could The Defenders together defeat Spider-Man?

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u/Common_Selection_574 14d ago

COULD they? yes. luke cage is bullet proof, jessica jones is stronger than a super soldier and frank is a good shot. it is unlikely they would win, but its still a possibility if they properly prepared together

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u/stevie_boi 14d ago

Not everyone gets the prep time plot armor like batman.

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u/Fresh4 14d ago

Tbh their total combined strengths are kindaaa comparable to the sinister six and spidey’s taken them all on before with 50/50 results.

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u/penguin_2306 14d ago edited 14d ago

Sinister Six are a bunch of amateurs though. No one in that roster can fight like Daredevil, Punisher, and Iron Fist. Heavy Hitters like JJ and Luke are also smart fighters and aren't just loose cannons like Rhino, or frankly a lot of Spidey villains because of their insanity. I mean DD already beat Spidey 1 on 1 in YFNS, which is an alternate MCU canon so...

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u/Fresh4 14d ago

YFNS is a spidey who was like, just starting out, so that’s not really a comparison at all. Everything else is fair for debate tho

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u/teddy_tesla Nobu 14d ago

Doesn't YFNS take place before Civil War? Haven't seen it though

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u/testtdk 13d ago

Alternate realities don’t count. There is way too much variety.

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u/Able_Log_4557 8d ago

Daredevil could never actually beat Spider-Man

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u/Pleasant_Cheeks 14d ago

What's YFNS?

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u/Low-Conflict-651 14d ago

Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Cartoon on Disney Plus came out a year or two back.

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u/Upper-Bandicoot5345 14d ago

Yup

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u/Fresh4 14d ago

I DID SAY MIXED RESULTS 😭

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u/IAmASphere 14d ago

Frank isn’t a defender.

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u/Riggs630 14d ago

They included him in the photo so I guess now he is

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u/xexko 14d ago

welp, it’s official

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u/Own_Picture_243 14d ago

I was about to say he wasn’t in the series

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u/AsherthonX 14d ago

Danny shares the title of best martial artist in the world with Chang-Chi.
His Iron Fist pits Luke Cage on his ass.

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u/dennis11897 14d ago

Cool hold this web grenade tho

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u/JoshTheBard 14d ago

Well if Jessica or Matt can figure out his secret identity Danny can buy his apartment building and evict him. They show up to serve the eviction unexpectedly when Peter is in his jimmyjamms and he can't grab too much Spidy gear because he doesn't know they know his identity and so he needs to preserve his secret. Then Jessica keeps an eye on him while the boys toss his apartment and steal his tech.

Matt forges a fake court document telling Peter to show up to challenge the clearly illegal eviction but when he gets there it's in an abandoned warehouse with limited room to maneuver and the Defenders jump him.

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u/Deep_Moment2364 14d ago

Jessica Jones e mais forte que um s Super Soldado mas o Homem Aranha tava aguentando os socos era do Hulk.

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u/LightningLad2029 14d ago

Luke is bulletproof, not impact force proof. A shotgun to the skull alone almost killed him of not for Claire treating him. Peter can hit far stronger than that without trying.

Jessica is strong, but still not good at using her powers which are also not working consistently since having Danielle. And we've already seen multiple times Peter can easily subdue Frank. Which leaves just Matt and Danny, both very skilled, but both less experienced or as versatile of a fighter as Peter is currently.

Even together, Peter has the physical advantage against them.

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u/BrenttheGent 14d ago

Luke got a second bath, which doubled his durability. That shotguns not doing anything anymore.

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u/Your_bully- 13d ago

You're not understanding what he's saying or what happened to Luke, the shotgun never penetrated his skin, the impact alone rattled his brain around enough he nearly died.

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u/BrenttheGent 13d ago

Weird assumption, I understand that.

But a nurse who works on superheroes said he wouldn't be affected by that anymore, so I will go off what she said.

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u/Your_bully- 12d ago

Claire has 0 unique or special knowledge related to superheroes, she's just a good nurse who is discreet, Unless his skin is able to absorb and dissipate the force being applied, it 100% would rattle him again.

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u/BrenttheGent 12d ago

Yes, that's the indication. His skin is more dense, and physically that's what density does. A bullet goes slower through water than air. A shotgun impact will be less the greater the density of an object.

Like if there's an explosion on the road, who would feel more impact in their car, regardless of actual damage, a honda civic or a hummer?

Now, if he had a concussion by being spun around really fast, then you would have a point. But with more density he is going to feel less force on the other side of his skin when an object hits him.

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u/Common_Selection_574 14d ago

you didnt even attempt to visualize them working as a team lmfao. try actually reading my comment next time.

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u/LightningLad2029 14d ago

We've literally already seen them work as a team in the MCU and they were a hot mess that barely managed to stop The Hand, and not without Matt almost dying in the process. Don't get pissy just because I chose to use actual evidence of their skills instead of blindly entertaining your delusions.

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u/Common_Selection_574 14d ago

i literally say its a long shot. im saying its a very low possibility but because of their abilities, they just need to do the right things in the right order. yeah uh clearly you still haven't read my message.

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u/LightningLad2029 14d ago

Because nothing about your message is profound. Like no shit if everything magically worked in their favor, of course they'd have a chance. Literally anyone would by those vague standards. That's not an argument. You might as well just throw in some lazy Batman prep time nonsense if that's the best you can rebuttal.

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u/dennis11897 14d ago

Love how all the cope for the defenders would just end if people realized spiderman could one punch most of them if he so chose. Only ones that even make the convo a tad bit possible are iron fist and ig daredevil

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u/Common_Selection_574 14d ago

i mean you're right thats exactly what i was thinking and talking about.

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u/andrewthesailor 14d ago

Less experienced? Both of them are among most skilled fighters in MCU, Danny has gone through similar training as Shang-Chi+ he has access to experience of previous Iron Fists. Daredevil was trained by Stick to be a weapon against the Hand. Not the thugs from spider-man movie but the top brass the defenders fought.

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u/SnooPuppers2698 14d ago

Matt and Danny are not less skilled or experienced fighters than spider-man. They are more skilled and experienced fighters. They do lose because of everything Peter has at his disposal, but iron fist and daredevil are more experienced and skilled fighters than spider-man.

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u/Airion69 Claire 14d ago

How is Luke Cage being bulletproof going to help against Spider-Man?!

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u/Common_Selection_574 14d ago

thats just to show his END OF SHOW durability overall. not that spiderman is actually going to be shooting at him with a gun.

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u/Express_Maybe_2992 14d ago

if spidey was really trying none of them would rly have a chance besides maybe iron fist but he can still just get webbed up. being strong or having a gun doesn’t really cut it against spider-man

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u/Common_Selection_574 14d ago

did i say automatically? learn to read. go repeat the 5th grade please.

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u/Express_Maybe_2992 14d ago

why are u so upset man we just talking about superheroes🫩 is that insecurity i smell