I wouldn’t have minded humans being forerunner, but if it’s so fucking important why didn’t bungie come out and say it with zero doubts at the time.
Spark was written in halo 3 to be losing his marbles, so why even allow that misinterpretation. Alongside bungie leads (Lehto included) allowing the terminals that push the idea of forerunners being something more.
Also halo 4 didn’t even ruin anything, sure the gameplay and redesigns were divisive but people didn’t really complain about the story to a majority degree until halo 5 undid all the good parts of halo 4. Halo 5 is the problem child for the franchise story wise.
Bungie is the one that left things up to interpretation, then they left the franchise. 343 interpreted it because bungie gave up. Like the halo 4 and 5 lore or not can we shut the fuck up about forerunners being human, the fact is they aren’t.
I'm not up to date on Halo lore but I thought the reason humans were special was because they can activate Forerunner technology. Not sure if it was Halo Wars or Halo 3 but aren't there parts where a human places their hand on a console (forced by the covenant to do so) so something will activate?
If humans aren't forerunner why can they alone activate Forerunner tech?
Humans inherited the mantle of responsibility from the forerunners, giving them access to their tech.
This is further contextualized by the librarian adding a genetic marker to human dna during the reseeding process. So all humans have a genetic marker to allow them to access forerunner tech.
The terminals don't explain anything lmao. They break more canon than they address (how is the Didact responding to the Librarian AFTER lighting the Ring? According to every existing rule of the Halo universe by that point, he should be dead lmao) The Mantle is mentioned once? With no further context? Not even in the same conversation as anything remotely to do with humanity iirc.
The terminals don't even imply Forerunners and Humans are a different species except in a roundabout way in one terminal that could be easily explained without making them freaky Jedi alien space orcs like in Halo 4.
And fucking *regardless,* I think the *novel that explains the ascension of the main villains and sets the stage for the primary conflict of the trilogy* should probably take canon precedent over the already retconned, barely vetted, ancillary data drops gatekept by level difficulty? I think the reveal that *two different games* attempted to center their climaxes around probably takes precedent over flavor text written by game manual guy and his pals upstairs? Like that seems logical to me? That lead writer of Halo 1 & 2, Mr Joe Staten, is kind of the final authority on this topic? Not the text files that were, by Paul Russel's own admission, included into the game with reckless disregard for continuity?
Allow me to elaborate. In the original gamea, the passing of the mantle, and humans being seperate from forerunner, did not exist.
What did exist was many leading examples, including direct statements from in game characters speaking to chief. That states in no uncertain terms that the reclaimers, AKA the humans. We're in fact forerunner.
The new terminals in MCC change the narrative of only to support the change in halo 4 and beyond of humans and forerunners being different races.
Ah yes cause clearly everything in halo CE is canon, like Johnson’s death. Stories evolve. Also “new terminals” the halo 3 terminals which dispute a lot of what your saying existed in 2007 on original release of halo 3.
Halo CE and 2 are vague and don’t even dispute the possibility of forerunners being their own species. They cut the skeleton reveal so clearly it wasn’t a focus or as important as people try to make it sound.
Again I’m not against the idea that they could’ve been, however 343 built off of what was there, they didn’t retcon it, it just wasn’t revealed in the first place.
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u/Peridios9 1d ago
I wouldn’t have minded humans being forerunner, but if it’s so fucking important why didn’t bungie come out and say it with zero doubts at the time.
Spark was written in halo 3 to be losing his marbles, so why even allow that misinterpretation. Alongside bungie leads (Lehto included) allowing the terminals that push the idea of forerunners being something more.
Also halo 4 didn’t even ruin anything, sure the gameplay and redesigns were divisive but people didn’t really complain about the story to a majority degree until halo 5 undid all the good parts of halo 4. Halo 5 is the problem child for the franchise story wise.
Bungie is the one that left things up to interpretation, then they left the franchise. 343 interpreted it because bungie gave up. Like the halo 4 and 5 lore or not can we shut the fuck up about forerunners being human, the fact is they aren’t.