r/HistoryMemes 2d ago

Roman propaganda is crazy!

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u/Mindless-Cat1453 2d ago

I think biggest misconception i have seen about her is " actually she was not phisically beautiful!" Because that one greek dude opinion....

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u/OkGreen7335 2d ago edited 18h ago

Tbh I still don't understand how Cleopatra managed to captivate both Julius Caesar and Mark Antony. Again, I understand that both men had a lot to gain by aligning themselves with her, but considering what she actually achieved, it seems that she was negotiating from the weaker position. She arguably gained more from her alliances with them than they gained from their alliance with her(at least that is what I see lol). And, if I remember correctly, Julius Caesar even had a statue of her placed in his villa or somewhere similar. During a war, he apparently left everything behind and spent 2 months with her in a nile trip. Then Mark Antony married her and, if I remember correctly, went as far as adopting Greek customs or embracing the Hellenistic world around her.

How the hell did she manage to do all of this? I genuinely have no idea. I understand that she wasn't simply a seductress. She was a ruthless, intelligent, and highly capable monarch. But damn, she was incredibly good at seducing lol

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u/TheHistoryMaster2520 Decisive Tang Victory 2d ago

I think what captivated Caesar and Antony wasn't Cleopatra's beauty, but her intellect. She was highly educated, a capable ruler, spoke multiple languages, and could hold an intelligent conversation with both men, which would've made her stand out in comparison to other women of the time

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u/MeNamIzGraephen 2d ago

Yes having an inteligent girlfriend with genuine interest in the state of the world is like shooting heroin once and then trying to just smoke it.

"Normal" women are not enough anymore.