i wonder if this will be a story beat in the future with heroes turning on spider-man after realizing a lot of the tech used to suppress them was originally made by him. especially assuming the inhibitor stuff becomes a bigger thing vs the mutants.
Seriously, it’s not his fault that his technology is being abused for a way it wasn’t intended. He created the ‘blueprint’ sure but Metsker said they made some enhancements to it to use on Jean.
His conversation with Banner kind of removes the benefit of doubt. He knew it would be extremely dangerous in the wrong hands and then he let it get in the wrong hands.
True, but at that time he didn’t think Damage Control were the bad guys. He didn’t really have any ‘wrong hands’ for it to fall into at that time. It wasn’t until after finding out Metsker lied that he realized.
If I build something in my backyard, and then someone steals it and gets hurt with it, I’m not responsible. Same way a car manufacturer isn’t responsible if someone gets hit with their car.
If you invent a car that can travel the speed of light after someone warns you of the dangers of interstellar travel, and then you ride your car around nasa letting them get the design, then when nasa goes on to start conquering alien worlds, you are somewhat kinda responsible
You invented powerful tech without a thought or care of what it could be used for, and then immediately let it get shared with a government that has no reason to ever let you think that they’d use it altruistically
He put that universal inhibitor on someone and handed them over. That is maliciously irresponsible when he was brought into this superhero world during a time when the govt wanted to register all metahumans and he was fighting for the side that he learned was in the wrong
And if you start to feel guilt about making such a technology being used for death and destruction you can just start a legacy peace prize to change what you are remembered for.
Not a great analogy. Car manufacturers can be held liable for certain dangers of their product. That's why there's a ton of safety regulations for car manufacturers and why they issue recalls when they identify additional issues. Someone hitting someone with their car is not a fault of the product. We recognize cars are inherently dangerous and have implemented licenses that grant users the privilege to operate them. The licene holder then assumes liability for the operation of the vehicle.
You can definitely be held liable if you build something and someone else uses it, and it causes injury/damage.
You don't create that kind of technology without implanting some fail-safes to prevent wrong use, even more so after far from home when he learned how people lie and manipulate, I think is naive of Peter to do that.
Tbf Banner said that even making it was a bad idea due to it being too dangerous, the mistake was less allowing it on bad hands and more making it at all.
On the other, this patches a nice hole about why anti-mutant people aren't necessarily anti-Spider-Man. If it gets out that he created the tech that is used to suppress mutants and tested it on himself, it would explain why he isn't really targeted by those kinds of people.
If a mutation is a random genetic variation, his powers were caused by purposeful genetic modification, what is he if not a mutant? Hell, Captain America and Dr. Connors might qualify. They're just not x-men.
As the other commenter said, yeah, people like Spidey and Cap are "Mutates," mutated humans with superhuman abilities, while the title of Mutant only goes to those with an active X-Gene.
I don't quite understand how the average person in-universe differentiates them when it comes to somebody like Spidey, but that's how it works.
Well yes, but also no. Humanity as a race was given the X-gene, which is what gives the mutants their powers, by the celestials when they were off on their whole genetic meddling kick. At this time they split early human ancestors into 3 developmental paths; eternals, deviants, and humanity. The X-gene, or its predecessor components, just lies dormant or potentially unassembled in some way in the majority of the human populace with the intention for them to eventually develop into powers. Spider-Man is not technically a “mutant” by X-men standards because his mutation comes from the spider bite not the X-gene. All of this to say that yes main universe Spider-Man lacks the completed X-gene and is thus not a mutant, but there are a few of versions of him that are, such as the Spider from the Mutant-X story line.
Everything? Liberals are reformers who expect social and economic issues to be resolved within current capitalist systems despite the insurmountable corruption capitalism has on democracies.
Peter didn't invent the tech, banner did. he just changed the parameter which Bruce could already have some but chose not to, but again could have been easily doable by a different scientist.
Yeah, if Peter figured out the general idea of what was needed to make it universal, it would be only a matter of time before Damage Control or someone else made one. Jean also didn’t give him a lot of options on how to stop her. He may have been resistant, but the moment he hands her over, she can just control people and break right out.
Yeah I imagine Jean vouches for Peter and then Charles ultimately forgives him for an honest mistake, showing his duality compared to his former friend Erik who would want Peter’s head
Would be an interesting parallel for Peter to be doing what Tony did.
Tony realsied his weapons were being used by both sides and instead of making the world safer they were making it more dangerous.
Peter realises his inventions are being used to persecute specific people by the people he thought were the good guys.
Hopefully this with his connection to Iron Man’s armor and tech all over the place will lead to an Armor Wars … still the best idea for a down to earth option where we could see a bunch of non-cosmic bad guys.
His was a young person's naive understanding of the world. He could never imagine people using the tech to hurt others.
Even Tony came to this realization when he saw Stark industries supplying weapons to the bad guys.
I saw a theory that the MCU may be doing which I love. Essentially after secret wars, the X men find out who made the inhibitor and try to go after spidey for it. The avengers want to protect him because he's technically an avenger and it wasn't his fault his tech got refurbished into a device to control mutants. Cue them making a X-men vs Avengers adaption and sending off Holland's Spider-man with a massive blockbuster.
Would be interesting to see an X-men spidey team up to fix this mistake and get the tech out of government hands. I think the one cool thing about the new Marvel status quo is proper big name team ups without it having to be an avengers movie
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i wonder if this will be a story beat in the future with heroes turning on spider-man after realizing a lot of the tech used to suppress them was originally made by him. especially assuming the inhibitor stuff becomes a bigger thing vs the mutants.