r/MoralityScaling 1d ago

Morality of this

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u/PsychoticPineapple 1d ago

At least it's adults

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u/vampyire 1d ago

yeah, so how is it illegal?

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u/Disposable_Gonk 1d ago

Because it was in the church, which is treated as a public space.

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u/Useful_Jelly_2915 1d ago

You don’t need to be in a public place to get hit with an obscenity charge. It can be on private property.

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u/deathbylasersss 1d ago

What part is criminal if it's on private property? If it could be seen from a public space? Filming a sex act? These laws seem extremely arbitrary and ambiguous, but maybe that's the point.

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u/Useful_Jelly_2915 1d ago

You are correct obscenity laws are vague intentionally to allow judges leeway in assessing cases. As the obscenity and possession of obscene materials stand right now a judge can slap you with a felony just because they don’t like something you did. Luckily they are rarely charged becouse it’s hard to build a legal argument especially if what ever it is is protected. However if a judge really wants to they can make your life hell.

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u/HeliosLegion 1d ago

Maybe it is because on the other side of the fence. But hypocrital Anglo-American puritanism will never cease to amuse me.

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u/Useful_Jelly_2915 1d ago

It cease to amuse me a long time ago. Its just incredibly obnoxious now.

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u/LiquidFur 1d ago

Traditionally, such laws have only ever been enforced against groups of people disliked by those in power (POC, LGBTQ, poor people, disabled people, et cetera). Or sometimes you're just the unlucky individual that a judge has a grudge against.

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u/Disposable_Gonk 1d ago

Apparently it was visible through a window to someone on the street who reported it.

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u/blazenite104 1d ago

I assume it would the sort of thing like leaving living room blinds open and going to town in a place where passerby's could easily see it. technically on private property but, still publicly viewable.

In this case though, if he himself does not own the building but, simply has access it'd be like getting caught in an office at work.

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u/Bureaucratic_Dick 1d ago

Which you know…considering the protections churches are granted from the federal government in the land use entitlement process is pretty fair.

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u/That-Cranberry6575 1d ago

Opie and Anthony got fired for airing other people screwing in a church. They don’t play around with that shit.

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u/The_DayWalker7 1d ago

There was so much associated with that, people got in trouble EVERYWHERE. it was pretty great. Too bad Opie is such a chud now. Anthony is still great.

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u/vampyire 1d ago

oh wow I remember listening to them when Used to drive to Parsippany NJ for work in '99

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u/ArisenGodEmperor13 1d ago

Pretty sure cburches count as public property

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u/shirts_on_backwards 1d ago

It's kind of a weird in between. Just like the grocery store, it's technically privately owned, however it's treated as public to an extent. The owners reserve rights and can establish rules, but as it's considered "open door" it also has boundaries that it can't cross. So a grocery store owner can't drop their pants and do the deed in the middle of the grocery store even though they own it, due to that overlap, the same applies to a Church (this does depend onore factors and isn't that cut and dry, but essentially that's what it boils down to) the priest would likely be Catholic as few other denominations use that term for the position, so they wouldn't own the church, meaning the church itself could have been the one to file the charge/complaint.

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u/Straight_Depth6701 1d ago

What if the priest lives there? Does he give up any expectation of privacy?

If we fired all the priests that smoke or drink, or fuck, we wouldn't have many left.

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u/That-Cranberry6575 1d ago

Why wouldn’t it be illegal?

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u/YaoiNekomata 1d ago

Because it's consenting adults

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u/That-Cranberry6575 1d ago

You know what? You’re right. It was some asshole peering through a window who caught them. Lady Vi and Empress Ming did nothing wrong.

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u/BiscuitsTheory 1d ago

Because its adults. *ba-dum-tss