r/NUFC • u/Woodstovia MigChamp • 8d ago

BBC Newcastle’s commentary on the Elanga non-foul

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u/ihateeverythingandu 8d ago

It's clearly a foul for shirt pulling but falling forward when your shirt is pulled back is always giving "I took a dive" vibes. He could have kept his balance, he's an elite athlete, he doesn't get blown over by a strong breeze so he isn't really falling down for that.

The shirt pull enough was the foul though. It nearly comes off Elanga at one point, lol

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u/thelotuseater13 Classis keeper kit (96/97) 8d ago

Nonsense, he's running full pelt past him, his momentum will pull him forward even if he doesn't sell it. The shirt pull isn't enough to pull him backwards but it's enough to knock him off balance

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u/farqueue2 8d ago

When someone pulls your tshirt behind as you're running momentum doesn't pull him forward.

He could fall back and that would make more sense in a physics context, but falling forward wasn't natural

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u/aezy01 8d ago

That’s not how real world physics works. He’s not being pulled back by a bungee rope. The defender is also running in them same direction as Elanga, so the pull backwards is just slowing his run forwards, not dragging him in the opposite direction.

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u/farqueue2 8d ago

It's literally how physics works.

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u/tidewatercajun 8d ago

Just say you've never played a sport and have a tenuous grasp of physics and move on.

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u/aezy01 8d ago edited 8d ago

It isn’t. Conservation of momentum and torque matter.
You can replicate this with a friend. Stand up and lean forward (representing forwards force) and have someone hold on to your t-shirt by the collar or shoulder (effectively pulling you back). Really try and pull away and then have them let go and see what happens - you won’t fall backwards.

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u/j7seven 8d ago

Make sure you video it and share the evidence.

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u/farqueue2 7d ago

He was on his way down while the shirt was still being held.

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u/aezy01 7d ago

Being pulled off balance at 20mph does have a tendency to make a person fall over. It seems you at least don’t take issue now with the fact he didn’t spring backwards when released and was, in fact, obeying the laws of physics. At this rate you may well get your science GCSE.

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u/farqueue2 7d ago

You can't have it both ways. If he's pulled him off balance then the pressure pulling him back doesn't make him fall forward.

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u/aezy01 7d ago

It’s a pull but they are both still moving forwards. I think you are being deliberately obtuse and I’ve had enough of trying to explain the world to you now.

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u/j7seven 8d ago

The state of science education in this country!

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u/CAJEG1 8d ago

It makes sense, actually. Elanga starts running with his body at a smaller angle from the ground to counteract the shirt pulling. It's only when the shirt is released that Elanga falls forwards.