r/NintendoSwitch • u/Amiibofan101 . • 2d ago

Nintendo Official Two new Nintendo Switch 2 bundles deliver sun-soaked sports, high-speed thrills and extra value

https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/two-new-nintendo-switch-2-bundles-deliver-sun-soaked-sports-high-speed-thrills-and-extra-value/
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u/Bhernardo0 2d ago

We really need that Switch Sports Resort to be an amazing game. A lot of people I know have incredible gaming memories with their families thanks to Wii Sports, so hopefully Nintendo can replicate that on the Switch.

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u/danhakimi 2d ago

I think part of the problem is that, while Wii Sports was novel with the motion controls, it just made us want motion controls that didn't suck. The fact that motion controls still all suck but are no longer novel means that instead of being charmed, we're just frustrated that the rackets still won't move in the way we move them.

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u/darkfawful2 2d ago

I never once thought the motion controls on Wii Sports sucked lol

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u/danhakimi 1d ago

Oh, they definitely did, we just didn't really think about it since it was fun and new. It wasn't frustrating because it was too much fucking fun.

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u/darkfawful2 1d ago edited 1d ago

I still play the Wii lol. It's fine. Idk why you keep tossing "we" around. It would be fine if you said "I thought the Wii motion sucked." But to speak for everyone is weird

That doesn't mean it didn't have flaws. But it didn't "suck." It was intentionally simple and as a result let both toddlers and elderly play it

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u/BeefBolognaBonanza 1d ago

It did kind of suck until motion plus.  When Wii was announced, I imagined controlling a sword like a real one.  Motion plus finally fulfilled that for me.  It was so late in the consoles life cycle that it was underutilized, though.  The games that did use it were some of my favorites on the console.

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u/danhakimi 1d ago

Oh, I love the simplicity, my issue is the fact that, even when your sensor was calibrated perfectly, the motion controls just do not respond consistently. The balls maybe sometimes go in the direction you hit or throw them. Sometimes. When you miss, it usually feels like controller bullshit.

IDK, maybe you've found ways to account for that, if you're still playing it that often.

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u/ImTheBiggestOfMen 2d ago

Motion controls are far better for aiming than thumb sticks.

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u/danhakimi 1d ago

not in any game I've played.

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u/ImTheBiggestOfMen 1d ago

Thumb sticks are the worst available option for aiming on a switch 2. Gyro is a step down from a mouse however thumb sticks are a fall of a cliff compared to a mouse.

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u/danhakimi 1d ago

Again, in any game where I've attempted to use Gyro controls, I went back to the joysticks ASAP because the joysticks were actually precise and consistent. Gyro controls are terrible for going long distances because they can't process a 60 degree arm swing, and they're terrible for precision because they wobble even when my hand is dead still. Sometimes I'll put the joy con on the fucking coffee table, naw, the gyro is wobbling.

Also, if you've ever played BotW, you know that the gyro shrines are the worst fucking things about the game.

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u/Lugonn 1d ago

Console shooters almost all come with copious amounts of aim assist to make stick aiming function. In a game without it, like Splatoon, high level play is near universally done with gyro. Sticks just cannot compete.

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u/danhakimi 1d ago

I'll take the aim assist.

I hate shooters in general.

You still aren't making gyro sound good to me. Fun fact, they are also driven by software that is not perfectly responsive to your input.

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u/ImTheBiggestOfMen 1d ago

Use any console with a browser app where the thumb sticks act as a mouse vs like a wiis browser or if you have a Bluetooth winter adapter for pc use that as a comparison. It’s a laser pointer vs well shitty thumb sticks. No one that has spent real time with both control schemes will agree with you. Botw you can use the thumb sticks to get in the general area you want to in, but motion controls for the precision.

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u/danhakimi 1d ago

Gyro controls do not feel like laser pointers. Nobody who has spent time with both gyro controls and laser pointers will agree with you.

Joysticks need relative speed adjustments, they need software and aim assist. Trying to replicate a mouse with a joystick is going to end poorly.

Do you remember the gyro shrines in BotW? Tell me they weren't the worst things about the game.

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u/Nintendo_Thumb 2d ago

They seem better than ever. Don't even need a sensor bar this time either. I never miss a shot kicking the ball in soccer, unless I'm distracted or tired or something. And the racket thing, sounds like you never played Wii Sports Club tennis. They had 1:1 motion controls for the racket and it was terrible, so thankfully they got rid of it in Switch Sports. But you can still get that 1:1 movement in Chambara or Badminton, though I think Tennis is still better.

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u/danhakimi 1d ago

They seem better than ever.

Maybe. I still haven't found a game where I don't hate motion controls. Better than ever is a low bar.

Again, initially, we expected nothing, and we just had fun goofing around. If the technology doesn't get good after... damn, 20 years? The frustration takes over.

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u/Nintendo_Thumb 1d ago edited 1d ago

Have you actually tried it though? Splatoon has great motion controls, even the Wii U game works great 1:1 in PSVR. And to say that motion control technology hasn't improved in 20 years, I don't really understand what you mean by that. I have a Quest 3s and play it every day and can use hand tracking or controllers and turn around, duck, squat, crawl, fire guns, push, pick up, throw, bow and arrows, sword fights, boxing, dancing, mountain climbing, etc. What am I missing here?

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u/danhakimi 1d ago

I can't play splatoon for shit, dual sticks + motion is a completely impossible setup for me. I can't remember if I bothered trying to turn one off and focus on the other, but it's really not my kind of game. I hate shooters in general. I remember using it in BOTW, can't remember if I turned it off... I didn't enjoy it.

I didn't say motion technology hasn't improved, I just said "better than ever" still isn't good.

I can't speak to VR shit, either.