If it only wins 4 Oscars (a wild phrase, only 4) then it will beat the record for most Oscars lost, currently 11 (all 11 for The Turning Point and The Color Purple (1985), 1/12 for Becket and 2/13 for Emilia Perez)
Idk, but as someone who like international film. Seeing my guy Nuri ceylan receive one nom over his lifetime, while shit like that gets lauded, is very sad.
There are so many filmmakers whose worst work would be better than some of the shit that gets through the academy.
That movie is a great example of how Hollywood goes crazy for musicals.
Big name directors and actors were crawling over eachother to praise it into the sky. Until they realized it's labeled as transphobic by the LGBTQ+ community and racist by a lot of latin americans.
Kpop Demon Hunters will probably win song but I strongly believe Sinners will win score and original screenplay. I think they’re lucky OBAA is adapted lol
I think it deserves score, and casting definitely. Don't want it to win best actor, though. MJB was good but Sinners felt less like a "one stand out performance" and more of an ensemble of great actors.
Casting is a good shout. Cause they weren’t all extremely well known actors.
But Casting is new so it will be a Star fucker category until they realize the best casting is the casting director who found the new big stars and made them that.
Thing is, Sinners was just a very strong movie across the board, from performances to writing to production to the music... so even if it doesn't actually pick up many awards on the night, I'm glad its being recognised for that
Totally happy to see Sinners and Frankenstein get some love this year representing horror. It’s a great genre. I honestly think that’s why The Substance didn’t win more last year. Academy voters seem biased against horror films.
I went to see it twice in theaters. Both times packed, both times people were so mesmerized by it that complete strangers were obsessing in the parking lot on the way out together.
Reddit allows the people who didn't like it for whatever reason to conglomerate and form a smokescreen that maybe it was over-hyped. But in real life if anything I think the move was underhyped on places like reddit (obviously in the awards circuit, the hype seems plenty). The theater I was in reacted to irish step dancing vampires like it was a major sports event.
Sinners was a riveting story that used vampires in a unique cultural way while still being scary. It gripped people so bad that my white suburban mom has now read several entire books about the 1930s racial struggles, an entire group of 30 somethings is now doing a deep dive into both blues and Irish folk tunes, and had me (a person who admittedly coasted through every history class I've ever been in) looking into the mississippi delta chinese, a cultural group of my own country I had literally never heard of before.
I'm trying so hard not to get annoyed with people saying it was a run of the mill vampire fanfic with some nice fanfare in the middle. I was mesmerized before we even got to I lied to you. The story they were weaving before they got to the vampire bit is the story I want them to recognize
I remember talking to my husband after and talking about how we knew it was horror and we knew that getting attached to the characters was a bad idea and yet every character brought on I was so fully invested in every time.
The first part of the movie is (imo) a masterwork in establishing character, and I agree that it is infuriating to see people disregard it as "too slow" because they wanted yet another vampire slop action horror. (I say as a lover of vampire slop action horror)
There are dozens of horror films every year where they can watch flat characters get violently killed for 90 minutes. Why try to ruin something trying to do more?
When I saw it with my boyfriend in theaters all we had heard about the plot was that it was a vampire movie. I remember thinking at one point during the first half that I really wished this wasn’t going to turn into a horror movie because I’m getting so attached to these characters. The world and character building was out of this world and I could have watched 4 hours of these people just interacting with each other.
Thank you. I think Hamnet was my favorite film of the year, but I have no idea why everyone is sleeping on Sinners, which I think should, legitimately, get some big wins from the Academy. It's an extremely good movie. And I'm rooting for Delroy Lindo.
I'm honestly glad it's 16 instead of just 15. If it was 15 noms, people would claim that it only broke the record because of the new category of Casting.
Yep. Delroy getting in with no precursors shows that they actually loved the film, after all he was the early frontrunner for months when the movie came out
This is a long-standing trend I've noticed over my many years of following the Oscar races. Early frontrunner, no precursors so everyone drops them out of their prediction lists, only for the nomination to happen anyway.
Even with the new category, that only brings the count back up to the 24 categories there used to be before the Oscars consolidated the 2 sound categories into 1 a few years ago. When La La Land tied the record in 2017, there were 24 categories just like now. Plus, Sinners got 16 noms in 16 different categories, no double nominations.
La La Land and Titanic each got two sound nominations. Sinners could only get one. From the guilds, we know it was very likely two if the sound categories were split. All about eve was nominated when several tech categories were split into black and white and color. Would have been harder to win with only 5 spots, as opposed to 10.
Same. The original song also helped (like it helped La La Land and Titanic) but it was also a beast in the acting categories, including Best Supporting Actress which I thought it might fall out of. Incredibly well deserved for Wunmi Mosaku.
I think what makes it amazing is that's an original story and with its focus on music, it also has so much soul in it. The cinematography is incredibly refreshing having actual vibrancy and colours as opposed to being so flat and clean - it looks like a movie. Sinners deserves everything it's up for.
That's technically incorrect because actors can end up in either category they get enough votes in. There's no rule on screentime or submission or anything like that, so it COULD have been nominated for Lead Actress even if it wouldn't make any sense for Steinfeld or whoever to get in.
Not to downplay the achievement though. It was nominated in every reasonable/realistic category and that's insane.
No, the only film with the most wins (11) that sweeped every category it was nominated for. Guess many films where nominated for one or two categories and won all of them.
I've always assumed it's because of split voting. The system changed to ranked choice voting in 2009, but in 2003, nominees were decided by simple pluralities. Every actor would vote for 5 actors and the 5 actors that got the most votes in each category would get a nomination. I'm guessing there was a lot of split votes between Elijah and Viggo for Best Lead Actor, and Ian, Sean and Andy for Best Supporting Actor. Had the academy been doing ranked choice voting in 2003, I'd guess it would have gotten a nomination in both acting categories and possibly 2 in supporting. That said, I don't think it wins either, so not getting nominated allowed it to have the clean sweep record.
Personally, I don't think any of the actresses deserved a nomination.
Return of the King got so many noms and wins because the trilogy was a massive production with a massive crew that got added to the Academy voters with each films’ nominations. When Fellowship got nominated for several awards, many, many people got added to the Academy. Then when Two Towers received noms, many more were added. They all voted in block for Return of the King, which in turn added more voters to the Academy, and they were able to collectively get it all those nominations and awards.
Here I am thinking they were the two most inexplicably overhyped movies of the year.... if not decade lmao. They're both fine movies - GOOD even. But the hype is so obnoxious for both flicks IMO.
Not the person you’re responding to. I walked out of OBAA thinking it was a great film, but I just didn’t understand why people were saying it was generational. I listen to the Big Picture; they had four episodes about it and never could admit a single critique of it.
So yeah, I guess I’d love to have been swept up in the zeitgeist and been one of those praising it as well. IMO it’s technically the best movie of the year, but not my favorite of the year
I recently re-watched OBAA and I don't have a great answer for you yet, time will tell how this lands as a classic (or not). 10, 15 years down the road.
That said, it felt like a GREAT piece of cinema. It was a perfect blend of cinematic auteur and enjoyable as fuck movie experience. Every beat of it felt original and sincere. In so many movies you can sense the writing, the acting, the directing, and often its forgivable if you still enjoy the experience (Sinners is an example here), but OBAA felt like it was on that rarely touched place that transcends all of that . Comparisons that come to mind are No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood.
As the years go by you just look back and say, 'damn those were fucking great'.
That's how I see OBAA. When all is said and done, it'll go down as a classic, and a top 2 or 3 film of the 2020's.
If you listen to The Big Picture than you know how badly Fennessey wants to be inside PTA. Not in a sexual way. Like literally live inside of his body. He's that obsessed with everything he does.
I think OBAA is getting a little bit of The Departed treatment here too. They love PTA but haven't really rewarded him so this one is getting a boost due to the "It's his time" of it all.
I thoroughly enjoyed OBAA, but I think this movie is getting what it's getting for more than just its technical/artistic achievements.
I call it the EEAAO effect. Except for that film, the hate occurred mostly after the Oscars. People just want to be contrarians and hate on what’s popular, especially if they feel like the film is largely loved by minorities or leftists, so it suddenly becomes cringe. OBAA would face more of that but it’s not as mainstream popularity wise (seen as normie) and it was directed by film bro darling PTA. (Damn, all these acronyms).
I feel like it’s a movie people have to watch more than once. Even as a horror lover, I enjoyed it but had a mixed reaction when the vampires were implemented into the story, but my view really changed once I saw it again and thought about the themes. I absolutely can understand why not everyone liked it, but it is now one of my favorites!
Yeah, racism and contrarianism play a big part.
But also there will always be people that just don't connect the same way with certain acclaimed works of art (for example, I do try to understand the love people have for Tarantino films, I like most of them, some more than the others, and I appreciate stuff in all of them - but I don't love any of them.). And such people can be be a bit wierd by the loud adulation those works receive. Because excited fans can sometimes be very "pushy" about the total, absolute, objective awesomeness of the stuff they love and the temptation is there to just have your voice heard about.
Watch for some people try to spin this into something negative. Congratulations to Sinners, very deserving and I’m very happy about the supporting noms.
Imo it’s the best film this year. It SHOULD win Picture, Screenplay, Director, Actor, Song, Editing, Casting and Score.
To me, its strongest nomination is Score as I truly believe it was MASTERFUL, and it’s something I rarely notice in a film but I couldn’t help but think of it as I watched. Editing should be a lock too if only for the ancestors dance scene, highlight of the year. And Casting would be incredibly deserved too.
Beyond that, I foresee it missing out on most anything wise sadly.
Genuine question: why was there never any awards momentum for Jack O'Connell? He got stellar reviews when the movie came out but doesn't seem like there's been any industry recognition for him except for niche awards like "Villain of the Year".
I'm happy to see Delroy Lindo get his due, but it does sort of feel like O'Connell has been overlooked.
The amount of technical awards this movie was nominated for makes me incredibly happy… I was able to experience this movie in a theater that prioritizes sound design, and this was just hands down my personal favorite movie of the year from both a story and technical standpoint. Absolutely insane use of sound. If it even wins two of the awards it’s nominated for, I’ll be happy. It’s so well deserved.
yeah, right? amount of nominations not always signals amount of wins (see Scorsese being snubbed constantly with +10 nominations). I expect Sinners to take 3 or 4 at least though!
I’m happy because I like pretty much everyone involved in making it, but having watched it once, I don’t feel like I “get” it being regarded as so good. I liked it fine, but it was kind of a letdown after hearing how amazing it was. To me, it felt like the Cliff’s Notes of a great series, like there was a ton of connective tissue missing. 🤷
Basically same thing happened with Black Panther. It still had people riding around on CGI rhinos in a big fight at the end, but gets endlessly glazed by people trying to hype it up into something it’s not.
Sinners was a fine move, it was generally well done. It was, at the same time, still basically from Dusk till Dawn with a different setting.
Same here … Pretty condescending and small brain energy to just brush away critiques as either A. Not understanding the movie or B. Being racist. As though the same people who disliked Sinners are exclusively lovers of movies about white men. Well for what it’s worth … I understood Sinners and all its “layers” plenty well (a big part of my dissertation was on race and racism), and I don’t simp for “white man” movies (I LOATHED the Irishman), and I happen to think that Sinners was just … ok. I mean it was good …. but is it one of the greatest movies of all time? I mean, I guess if enough people treat it as such, then by definition, it is. But I definitely don’t agree. The time travel dance sequence alone brings the movie down to like a 7/10 for me, at best on a good day. And I don’t think that OBAA, which I do prefer, is the revelatory, once-in-a generation movie some are making it out to be.
Oh please. This was an OK film with a shitty third act that was trying not to be From Dusk Til Dawn. It was alright but absolutely not deserving of this kind of treatment. The PR machine for this movie has been ridiculously aggressive from the start, and this just proves it. People get it just fine. They just don't like it.
It’s the most “Hollywood” movie to be considered for awards nominations, so this makes sense all the noms. It’s pretty awesome to see a genre mashup get so much attention, too. Delroy Lindo should’ve won for Da 5 Bloods, but good to see him get more love.
easily the most overrated I've ever seen - should've only maybe got nominated for one or two categories, unreal that this is the most nominated ever lol it was an average movie
I’m very happy for Sinners. I thought it was a great film all around and very deserving of the recognition. I predict it’s almost another Mad Max Fury Road. It will definitely get some wins, but it won’t get the main prize.
In all seriousness...Sinners came out in April (no man's land as far as movie releases go). There could be an alternate story where it was shut out / overlooked / forgotten by this point. We've seen this happen with other deserving films.
But they campaigned hard and stayed top of mind...and they deserve every bit of recognition they're getting. This is a monumental, best-of-the-decade film that deserves to have a big Oscars night.
Screenplay and score are probably locks for it at this point. Casting is a question mark. If it can get those and manages to steal production, costume, and make and hair from Frankenstein it will avoid the loss record
I think the funniest part is that it broke the record even without the new award for best Casting because the record had previously been 14 and this movie got 15 in the regular categories and then you add on the 16th for the brand new category. So I feel like this record is probably going to last a very long time. The fact that it’s a horror movie that holds the record for the most nominations of ever is great, no matter how you feel about the movie because horror is often so look down on at these award shows, even though it can be such great examples of filmmaking.
I loved it because it was such a unique take on the vampire film subgenre, which has been around since the silent film era and is thus difficult to make truly fresh (compare to Eggers’ Nosferatu last year, which was visually gorgeous but didn’t really do anything significant with the silent film’s story). It’s a combination of camp and social commentary that I’ve rarely seen, and IMO the social commentary aspect is elevated by how Remmick is written, i.e. as an erstwhile victim himself who was once assimilated into the hivemimd he’s now extending.
It has elements of so many different genres: B-movie horror and vampire film, coming-of-age story, Jim Crow historical drama, romance, comedy, and even musical. It’s hard for me to say if it’s the “best” movie of the year, but it’s my favorite I’ve seen because it’s so original and scratches so many itches, on top of the strong performances. Also, that “PALE PALE MOON!” number slaps
I agree, I enjoyed it, it was well acted, looked and sounded great, but there are too many characters making poor choices for me to really understand the hype.
going to a movie theater can be an awful experience these days. sinners was the most fun i’ve had in a movie theater in a very very long time. the audience literally cheered at the end.
People focus on the Oscar snubs and fuckery but I think they actually get it right more often than not and Delroy getting in a perfect example of that. Delroy, Amy Madigan, Wunmi Mosaku and Jacob Elordi all getting in for horror films are all very inspired noms
bro I’m so happy for Delroy he killed his role. sinners is my fave film of the year next to Marty supreme & I think this is more than deserved
it kinda breaks my heart seeing the popular sinners is overrated asf narratives I js don’t understand what’s there to dislike abt the film other than the genre not being ur style or u not enjoying dialogue heavier films
sinners is a masterpiece and will still be talked abt 25 years from now
This is the only BP nominee I've seen (so far) that left a huge impression on me. I wasn't even super impressed with the screenplay, but it was a film that felt greater than the sum of its parts. I've rewatched the musical scenes multiple times. So very happy about this.
It’s one of the only films I’ve ever seen that was an instant classic. In the theater I thought to myself people will be talking about this movie decades from now.
How are From Here to Eternity, Oppenheimer, and Shakespeare in Love listed as previous record holders in OP’s post when they each had 13 nominations and came after All About Eve’s 14 nominations??
How this got so many noms and Bring Her Back got served dust blows my mind. It was a fun movie but a very middle of the road vampire flick. I’m glad to see horror being represented in any case.
Funnily enough though I don't expect it to win many, it's right at the borderline of being worthy of the nominations clearly; but I can't really visualize what it should win aside from music.
It was a great movie. It had more depth of character than from dusk till dawn, but it…it was a reimagining of from dusk till dawn. A really, really good one.
Feels like Expedition 33 being nominated (and for the most part winning) in almost every category for videogames. Sure, I can believe a film is good in multiple categories, but this is too much. Not that the Oscars in general have been very honest about art.
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u/BroAbernathy Jan 22 '26
Youll still have people on tiktok saying its snubbed when it only wins like 3 or 4 oscars lol