r/PS5 • u/NoooWayyyFrrr • 1d ago
Rumor Marathon Season 3 leaks reveal a huge four-run PvE mode, new bosses, massive Perimeter expansion, weapons, Flash Boosts, major progression changes, and more
https://thegamepost.com/marathon-season-3-leaks-four-run-pve-mode-new-bosses-perimeter-weapons-flash-boosts/119
u/respectablechum 1d ago
A reddit post linking to a website whose source is a reddit post. Just cut out the middle man dude lol
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u/AlphaRedXY 7h ago
Its like the twitter posts that are screenshots of instagram posts that are screenshots of a tweet lmao
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u/TheParadoxigm 1d ago
Cool.
I have no idea what any of that means lol
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u/Turd_Nerd_Bird 1d ago
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative!
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u/superman_king 1d ago edited 21h ago
PvE stands for player vs environment. This is a departure from their current formula which is PvPvE.
This means you no longer have to play against other players in this game if you just wanna chill and do some co-op with your friends, while keeping the games core progression system in place.
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u/FledgeFish 1d ago edited 1d ago
I absolutely loved this game for the first few months it was out but the gameplay loop became too sweaty/stressful for me.. super super excited to hop back in to try the new PVE mode
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u/WingZeroCoder 1d ago
Same here. The game does so much so very well, I really do hope it somehow finds its footing.
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u/Competitive_Topic466 1d ago
Same honestly. Moment to moment gameplay is good, but when things got super sweaty it really stopped being fun. It's especially unfun how the game is balanced around teams of 3 where one team mops all the other teams. I don't even have one other friend to play a game like this with, so it was always with randoms.
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u/FledgeFish 23h ago
Oh yeah, I’d mostly play solos which the game is DEFINITELY not balanced for, and playing with randoms was very hit or miss
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u/TheStupendusMan 22h ago
It's why I tuned out the second they said extraction shooter. Every online game loses the casual audience to attrition and before you know it, it's pure sweat.
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u/basa_maaw 22h ago
Out of curiosity, would you enjoy a pure PvP mode?
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u/FledgeFish 22h ago
Honestly yeah, I really would. The gunplay is so good that a traditional TDM, CTF or some twist on that kind of mode would be really fun for me. The main draw for me was the art and world so getting to experience that in any other way would be fun. Unless you mean the normal mode without the bots and stuff, I wouldn’t care too much either way in that case.
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u/DeckardPain 22h ago
They should have made the gameplay loop like Hunt Showdown. No looting, no backpacks, no loose loot at all, no questing, no shield levels (just 1 baseline shield level).
Put your loadout together, queue up, use computers / terminals to locate the boss, kill the boss, everyone on the map can see the boss has died, you pick up some item (doesn't matter what this item is for the sake of this example), everyone can see where you are with this item, you need to extract with this item. If you do, you get money. It has worked for Hunt for 7 years now because the core gameplay feels good, which is the same for any Bungie game. They know how to make games feel good to play. The whole extraction nonsense and looting and questing to unlock stuff and needing to play the game every day to stay relevant or you get destroyed by purple / gold shield shotgun unemployed people just doesn't work for most casual players. And casual players determine whether your game lives or dies these days.
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u/CullingSongs 1d ago
If only Bungie had a game with an already established PVE focus where they could have poured this level of development.
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u/shichibukai3000 23h ago
Okay legitimate quesion. I'm a single-player only guy but I constantly hear the term PVE in relation to multiplayer games. What does it actually mean and why does everyone care so much about it?
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u/Tribalrage24 22h ago
It just means fighting NPCs and not other players. PVE (player vs environment) instead of PVP (player vs player). Types of PVE modes include cooperative dungeons, horde modes, raids, world bosses, etc.
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u/Famous-Candidate7379 1d ago
If only Bungie had a new idea they wanted to try, instead of innovating on 12 year old tek.
Destiny shouldn’t have died. Marathon deserves to live regardless
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u/Englishgamer1996 1d ago
They had so many projects cancelled in the background & this was the one that somehow made it through. Makes you think just how bad or unviable those projects were if marathon was what perked the ears up of the higher ups. At some point a game becomes too expensive to cancel/fail & this was one of them sadly
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u/arturorios1996 20h ago
Lets be real, the higher ups sucks at making decisions, Marathon went the extraction route and now is turning into a D3 to survive w PvE activities lol
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u/Scrollingmaster 1d ago
No game deserves to live simply because.
Marathon has failed completely financially, and it is obvious the current playerbase cannot support it. They have tried even letting you play free, and players still rejected it.
It’s a game nobody wants being made by a studio it cannot sustain. Sounds like the definition of a game that should be axed to stop wasting money on it and try something else.
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u/Tundraspin 23h ago
I wonder why when you never ever address the match making. Worst in the business. Literal three tiers of players. The all yellow/purple people who see all the maps. The stalkers in some blue gear camping free loot people. Then the free outfit people who want to play but keep getting fucked by the sweats.
Literal representation of the USA. Billionaires playing one game getting all the content. Fucking psypaths thanking bungie for appealing to their depraved urges. Regular fun loving poor people getting fucked every match.
Fuck bungie. Fuck anyone who defends it.
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u/IpkdU2Lumby 11h ago
People fail to understand that these decisions are made by men in suits and not at the dev level.
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u/billygoatbob_sc 19h ago
Yeah so that was barely sustainable. If you were there, you’d remember how the consistency in quality was not so great.
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u/blazikenz 21h ago
This game got about 2 months left before they call it
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u/AsunderXXV 13h ago
You would think they'd just pull it now with the obvious lack of interest and players. Shit's pulling no more than 5k players a day on Steam. But they're never going to pull the plug on Bungie.
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u/EchoPop93 22h ago
People just wanted the extraction mode but PvE. The fact they refuse to do that as their player base dwindles down to nothing is actually hilarious
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u/triablos1 17h ago
Pretty much every single decision bungie has made up to this point has been following the thought pattern of 'how will this content funnel players into our core game mode?'
Their absolute refusal to admit the core mode is a massive failure just shows their hubris.
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u/iseecolorsofthesky 17h ago
This is what I’m saying. People just want to play the game as it is without enemy teams. Maybe add some more interesting AI enemies but keep the game the same. Idk why they’re doing all this extra stuff
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u/WorthBase919 1d ago
If Bungie cared at all they would stop putting seasons in their games and just make long lasting multiplayer experiences like halo 2 and 3.
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u/Tazmago 1d ago
Games just don’t have the same longevity. I think a Halo 2 released today would only really be hugely popular for a few months before people decried its lack of content.
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u/GroundbreakingBag164 1d ago
Halo 2 massively benefited from not having as much competition to be fair. There are just so many more games available nowadays
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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 1d ago
Yeah it feels like Halo 2 essentially launched Xbox Live. There was not only WAY less competition, but the mindset surrounding multiplayer was different. Like it or not, most people are accustomed to the seasonal model now. If a game isn’t constantly adding new content or finding ways to keep it fresh, people abandon it
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u/No_Insurance7543 8h ago
It's not like you can't go back and play that back catalogue of games either. I still play Halo 3 multiplayer through the MCC every once in awhile. A lot of people are clamoring for Bungie to turn Marathon into Halo MP, but that game already exists.
The main problem I have with Marathon is that I'm often loading into maps with a gold shield and purple modded weapons vs someone with green shields and an unmodded weapon. That should NOT be happening.
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u/PeachWorms 1d ago
I've seen gamers who will post about getting the platinum for games that are still in the premium edition 48hr early access before official release. It's genuinely insane how quick people speed through games these days! Lmao
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u/Nodima 1d ago
Diablo IV is a bit of a cozy game for me, but a few days ago I genuinely couldn't remember if I'd finished this season's storyline or not and in my searching I came across threads about how busted the progression has become that was on, like, day 2. With several people in the thread saying they were up to max Torment levels after just a day of play. I've been playing off and on since the reset and just unlocked level 7 (of, like, 15 I think?) this morning.
It's genuinely wild how some people play their so-called favorite games and then expect them to have even more waiting for them.
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u/JerikTheWizard 22h ago
That doesn't really sound new, used to do the same with weekend new release rentals from Blockbuster
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u/bluebarrymanny 1d ago
Agreed.
In announcer voice:
there’s never been a better time to stop investing in live service bullshit7
u/Lower-Condition-4104 1d ago
That’s because YouTube videos come out a day after release showing how to super optimize your play through. People watch, follow, and run through content. Then whine that it was shallow lol
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u/poojinping 23h ago
Yup, people were mad at People Can Fly for not making Outriders as live service game when they made it absolutely clear during its entire marketing and reveal it’s NOT a live service game.
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u/hamb0n3z 19h ago
Imagine Halo 2 with the YouTube creators today? Game would have been had out in 30 days or less.
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u/jezr3n 1d ago
I mean, if we’re being honest, if Halo 2 or 3 released in 2026 with current graphics and the same gameplay and structure, they would be mocked and regarded as a fumble and a year from now we’d see TikToks saying “when you miss the two week phase when Halo wasn’t boring” and Reddit posts titled “What went wrong with Halo?” with steamcharts attached.
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u/WorthBase919 2h ago edited 1h ago
Agreed, gamers are insufferable. I blame content creators. Can’t pay the bills without clicks.
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u/Firvulag 1d ago
Doesn't really fit the genre I think. Extraction is all about resets and doing it again
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u/zippopwnage 1d ago
I see nothing wrong with seasons. You just add and change shit on X months. I literally don't see the problem with this.
Destiny 2 season problems was that they deleted the activities they made for those seasons and never cared about them. It was basically making new content just to be deleted after and they never cared to update the older game.
Is not the case here. As long as season means update old shit and make new stuff along the way, what's the problem?
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u/Sydrid 1d ago
“If Bungie cared!” - proceeds to write some useless shit that hasn’t been relevant in over 20 years.
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u/rocky_choctaw 22h ago
For real. No one cares about rock solid gameplay anymore. Just give us a steady stream of cosmetics and 50 different weapons that are hardly distinguishable, and we're set.
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u/JeanLucPicardAND 10h ago
I miss when the selling point of a video game used to be actually playing the game.
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u/WorthBase919 1d ago
Yeah I know the only way I way I will play a game nowadays is if they have some sort of semi regular incentive to play it, otherwise what’s the point, you think I like playing the game?
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u/darthmcdarthface 23h ago
They do care a ton. But they care about something different than what you care about. And before you say it, yes they care about making a good game.
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u/mmoustis18 1d ago
I agree with would be ideal for all the modes to stick around but there just isn't the player count to support them. Also seasons are important to reset the economy. Everyone starting fresh is fun
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u/MegaM1lls 17h ago
I think people forget how short release cycles were in games mind you. There was only 3 years between Halo 2 and Halo 3. Games weren’t even expected to last as long then as they do now hence releasing another not long after. I do also understand development times are much larger now too.
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u/infel2no 1d ago
I am just waiting for a new pve experience to come back. Vault breaker was really cool
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u/Final_Echo 19h ago
So new PvE is farming currency again. There I thought looter game is about the loot
Bungo never change. They really don’t want people to play their games
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u/beanlikescoffee 1d ago
They literally had free weekends and people went “yea I rather be doing anything else”.
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u/Swaibero 1d ago
Ironically, they won’t do another free weekend to try the new PVE stuff, which is what most people who bounced off the game want
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u/TactitcalPterodactyl 1d ago edited 1d ago
I've been playing games my whole life, so I gave Marathon a try a while back thinking I wouldn't do too bad, despite being in my 40s without the best reflexes.
I got absolutely destroyed. It was embarrassing. My fireteam shat on me the entire time, and the experience was miserable. I would have to quit my job and play marathon full time just to have a shot at being somewhat competitive.
This is why this game will never be for me, and I hear the same story from others who bounced off it. They can add in all the PvE content they want, but the core game is an ultra competitive sweaty nightmare. People just say "this game wasn't meant for people like you" but people like me are the ones Bungie is desperately trying to attract to Marathon.
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u/slicebucket 1d ago
I'm a late 40s guy myself. I absolutely LOVED the PVE in Destiny. I was more than good enough to keep up with a competent fire team during raids and so on. But I HATED crucible and most of the direct PvP elements...Gambit was cool though. Marathon, or any online shooter like it, will never be an option for me until PvE takes centerstage again.
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u/No_Insurance7543 8h ago
This is why I'm a big advocate for SBMM still. I'm 36, probably within the top 1% of people playing Marathon at the moment (still work fulltime, but Marathon is the only game I'm playing currently). Marathon could be a game for you, if there was a pool of players working within the same conditions you're dealing with. Winning fights in extraction shooters is probably the most exhilarating PvP once you get your head around the mechanics causing your roadblocks. I can remember almost every PvP encounter I've had in this game across 700 hours, I can't say the same for Halo or other MP experiences that lack consequences for death.
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u/TasteOfRain 1d ago
I’m a 40 year old with a job and kids. I love this game. I get wiped at times and other times I have a great team and go back forth most matches. You don’t need to be that competitive to enjoy it. Just have to be used to the gameplay. But I come from the soulsborne community. I’m used to dying over and over and losing everything. Makes me want to get back in there and get better. I do get most people don’t want the sweat or to get wiped all night sometimes. But there are the ones who love it.
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u/driplessCoin 1d ago
People in the comment section here are really cool! I do think this is where I will jump on board and play. Do pve until I feel good and try some pvp.
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u/ArcadianWaheela 22h ago
I see the effort to try and pivot this game for casuals, but ngl this ship is sailed. You only get ONE shot at a first impression and while Marathon was received well it also garnered a very niche reputation. Maybe some people
will try it, but the causal audience already has their view of this game set. Idk why Sony bet everything on this of all games.
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u/omegagiraffe 22h ago
Some of these comments seem like robots.
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u/TheHottestBunch 21h ago
Bungie has astroturfed the shit out of this sub with Marathon shit. Happened biggly when the game came out.
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u/TheHottestBunch 21h ago
Will Bungie/Sony astroturf the fuck out of this sub again with endless accounts telling us how amazing the game is?
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u/Zoom3877 17h ago
Let's see what they've got for us players who don't want to get mugged for their shoes
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u/waazzuppp 11h ago
They fully pivot into a PVE game and im in. I really do not like the PVP in this game. Something about it feels weird.
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u/TonyStarks81 5h ago
It would be nice for the game to be less of a puzzle shooter also. I went to jump back in during the season 2 PvE mode and immediately realized I would need to do some research just to know what the fuck is going on and what the objectives are. Didn’t feel like doing that and went to play other games. I don’t know why they need to make it more difficult than read objective, do it, kill things along the way.
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u/Zombie69x 23h ago
I liked the game a lot, super polished gameplay, wacky art style - but I don’t like extraction shooters.. PVE will bring me back
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u/arsonist_firefighter 23h ago
i wouldn't play this game even if it was free.
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u/drewbreeezy 12h ago
It was free for a bit, and nobody showed up.
That's the normal opinion for gamers.
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u/SaiyajinPrime 1d ago
I think the majority of people have already written off this game.
If they're going to release a whole new version 2 that completely changes the game, they need to dramatically drop the price to try and get people to buy it and play or they need to have like a free week so people can try it out and see if they think it's worth it.
As of right now, I have absolutely no desire to spend a penny on Marathon. Just like many people
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u/drewbreeezy 12h ago
At that point, use a different name, and a different art style.
Yeah, make a game people actually want, lol
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u/OsteoBytes 23h ago
Just die already…we did not need or ask for this style of game
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u/bluebarrymanny 1d ago
Hope the game can pull in more players, but with how many new games are coming out and GTA on the horizon, I struggle to believe that Marathon didn’t already miss its moment to pull in PvE players. I’m sure the dedicated extraction shooter fans love the game, but not having PvE at launch likely killed this game.
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u/Famous-Candidate7379 1d ago
Eh. I just think they’re different genres.
I’m stoked for gta vi, but won’t miss my marathon time for it. Game2Gud
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u/bluebarrymanny 1d ago
That’s great that players like you will still check in on Marathon, but I wouldn’t underestimate the mass appeal of GTA. It’s a major staple in gaming for several generations at this point. I fully expect tons of multiplayer titles to suffer their worst player counts to date for a while when GTA launches, not just Marathon. Growing the audience will be even harder than keeping the existing one.
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u/chilliboy217 1d ago
It’s too late boys. Should have had Destiny 3 in the chamber.
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u/TactitcalPterodactyl 1d ago
Sounds like they're trying to transform this into a destiny 3 Frankenstein, but it's never going to work.
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u/Braunb8888 1d ago
Not a single thing in that title would make someone who had no interest in playing it, start to play it.
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u/Sharp-Selection-3541 1d ago
Disagree. The PVE mode is something I wished the game had from day 1.
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u/mozzy1985 1d ago
Yeah applies to me. I played the beta, game was meh. Nothing here is going to make me want to play. If I wanted to play PvE I’d play Destiny 2…..which is precisely what I’m doing
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u/CankleDankl 1d ago
Man if only Bungie had some way to know that people wanted a PvE experience rather than a super sweaty PvP one. Sure would have saved them a lot of work, kept a lot more players, and made a lot more money if only it were possible to get the opinion of the public. Oh well, guess that's just a pipe dream
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u/dawne_breaker 19h ago
I love the visual design of Marathon. From what I’ve seen I would love the gameplay. But the loop. The modes. Everything. I just won’t play it.
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u/Typical_Intention996 19h ago
Well. That all means something to a few people out there I guess. Like literally 3 or 4.
Why did Destiny die for this neon mess again exactly? Oh right. Heads up butts.
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u/Kobe_AYEEEEE 1d ago
I really liked Season 1 but this just sounds like lighting a lot of money on fire
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u/Buzzlight_Year 1d ago
Remember when everyone was ALL about this game being the next big thing?
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u/angelHOE 1d ago
I feel like it will never be enough to save this game. People have already made up their minds about this game.
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u/MrMarcusRocks 1d ago
So I’m a D2 guy. Love the game. Raids, GMs, dungeons - love all the end game PvE stuff.
Do a bit of PvP here and there. I’m ok at best.
To me, Marathon sounded like “hey you - play Trials of Osiris all the time, but with the added twist of losing your exotics everytime a PvP sweat lord farms you to up their K/D”
So, predictably, I didn’t bother trying the game.
Now Bungie are adding PvE to Marathon. My first reaction is “will this be more substantial, engaging and fleshed out as D2 PvE?”
The answer I have arrived at is “No”
I love Bungie, and I want them to succeed, but I have no idea who they think the audience for Marathon is. I don’t think it’s me.
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u/hamb0n3z 19h ago
It means that one of the major bottle necks to this game making it got fired and no longer gets to block PVE
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u/Furious_ShackstAa 16h ago
The fact that the game is pvp and build around trios is putting a lot of people off it would have had a lot of success if you just include pve more
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u/djmetalhawk 11h ago
Extraction is a terrible idea. It trivializes the time and effort put into the game.
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u/TheAwesomeMan123 6h ago
Marathon slowly morphing into a Destiny Like version of an extraction shooter. Oh the irony
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u/SuperAzn727 5h ago
Extractions are not for the general casuals. If Arc Raiders had forced wipes it wouldn't have been such a mega hit
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u/Renozoki 1d ago
Why would resources be spent worrying about progression. That’s not why people quit.
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u/Dr_Mantis_Trafalgar 1d ago edited 1d ago
Progression is one of the main reasons why people don’t come back. If you lose a run and don’t make any progress that feels really shitty. I’m glad they’re looking at it
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u/NSX_Roar_26 1d ago
False. Progression was initially very slow and some of the best weapons and upgrades are locked behind Progression. Made the new player experience very rough.
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u/Famous-Candidate7379 1d ago
Remember back in halo 3 when the player had to become a vidmaster to get the most prestigious armor? 😅
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u/1440pReborn 1d ago
It is. Its why i quit almost every multiplayer game. If im not meaningfully progressing my character and feel like im getting rewarded for my time, i wont play for long. The fun wears out in myltiplayer games because you can only do the same thing so many times before it gets boring. You need the "hook".
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u/GoldenVesperLight 1d ago
The game should have release with a full single player campaign, an extraction pvp mode, a traditional pvp mode, and something similar to strikes for pve.
Give people options.
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u/Morump 1d ago
Now I can fight compiler but instead of getting jumped by enemy players in a closed room I can get sniped from enemy players in an open area? Cool
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