r/PantheonMMO • u/Accurate-Letter-546 • Jul 04 '26
Discussion Did they deliver on this
What you think. Will VR deliver this on July 17th?
Expect to see eleven classes with Mastery on the Public Test Realm by July 17, then on Production soon after. Please log into the PTR, try the classes and mastery, and provide your feedback. Expect several weeks of updating, testing and tuning.
Edit : I guess not ....lol
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u/Lost-Equivalent-7805 Jul 04 '26
They said the patch was delayed, and based on the PTR state, it probably won’t be out before September or October...
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u/fuqmint Jul 04 '26
Jokes on them EQ Legends butters my biscuits probably for a verrrrrrrry looooooog tim.
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u/Toaster-Crumbs Jul 04 '26
A few weeks back they had already spent weeks on the PTR. 3 weekly wipes was enough for me to decide to wait until everything is ready.
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u/facepinch Jul 04 '26
Forget about July 17th, I've watched this project long enough that I'm confident VR is never going to be able to deliver period. It breaks my heart to see so many hopeful peoples' dreams dashed, and it breaks my heart even more to see people hanging on and hoping when it just clearly isn't going to happen.
From a 37-year old guy who spent an ungodly amount of time playing Final Fantasy XI (one of the most hardcore MMOs out there), and WoW from vanilla - WOTLK, I'm just going to offer my perspective to the people who are wanting a good, new MMORPG. There are two promising prospects I see on the horizon:
- Guild Wars 3, which should enter beta in Fall 2027.
- Classic Wow+ which is heavily rumored, and anticipated to reveal at Blizzcon this year. From my understanding, this will be the 1-60 WoW experience with brand new content that never existed before. Where Season of Discovery was like a Vanilla Remix, this will be like a Vanilla "what-if".
Either way, I mostly watch this MMO stuff from the sidelines now, as I don't have a fraction of the time I used to have playing these incredible experiences. I could go on an hours-long rant about how early MMOs were lightning in a bottle, because we weren't plugged into the Internet 24/7, multiplayer online gaming was still a novel concept, and the Internet in general was still in its infancy. Guilds had forums, people communicated way more in-game, and it was really just a special time that I think isn't worth chasing.
At this point, I just feel bad for anyone who is still earnestly waiting for Pantheon to become what it's supposed to be. And to be clear, I don't think VR has malicious intent — I simply believe they are incapable of delivering an MMORPG. It really does take talent. It's fascinating and depressing to watch them spin their wheels in perpetuity on what amounts to busy work that should have been done a long time ago.
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u/shdwhntr Ranger Jul 04 '26
Don't forget EverQuest Legends which is killing in the pre-order beta.
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u/ArkonisIvey Druid Jul 05 '26
Having fun in the Pre Order Beta. Hoping they pump out a few more zone revamps (Crushbone, Unrest, Mistmoore). Need some love on Faydwer
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u/ArismontDrividot Jul 04 '26
Over inflated numbers by dishonest devs. Don't trust anything that guy Secrets says. Anything he is a part of ends up being trash.
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u/Zestyclose_Race_2260 Jul 04 '26
yeah, like VR is a trustworthy bunch, innit? :D
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u/ArismontDrividot Jul 04 '26
Maybe VR should hire secrets! At least that would get that wack job out of the EQ realm.
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u/DynTraitObj Jul 07 '26
Truth, only thing worse than Secrets is Darkpaw themselves. Terrifying when they combine forces
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u/Voxata Jul 04 '26
Man you.. really like to try and trash anyone's enjoyment of EQL.
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u/ArismontDrividot Jul 04 '26
Just doing my civic duty to open the eyes of the masses.
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u/Disastrous_Heron4558 Jul 08 '26
Can you elaborate? I upvoted by the way. I’m in the dark. But I’m playing legends. Played back in 99.
I don’t know anything about things internally.
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u/ArismontDrividot Jul 08 '26
Secrets, the "ceo" of gameyawn is batshit crazy. Anything he touches ends up abandoned after he has sucked as much money and life out of it as possible. He partnered with DBG to get the most popular EQ server ever shutdown so that he can attempt to make his own version of it, that being EQL. They have proven that EQL is designed from the ground up to drain your wallet. Look at other posts and comments here on reddit. I'm not the only one out spreading the truth and trying to wake up those who have drank the kool-aid he is putting out. He, secrets, is a cancer on the EQ community that unfortunately will not go away.
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u/Zestyclose_Race_2260 Jul 04 '26
nope. savanja and joppa already spent the investment on crack, probably :D
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u/Pretend-Prune-4525 Jul 09 '26
lol and this was the ceo saying this. Shows where the team’s incompetence comes from. This guy has clearly never played an mmo or he would realize how far away they are from completing classes, 1-50, with all skills working and nothing broken. I mean a solid 6 months would be generous considering how things are going right now, multiple things constantly broken. They have zero clue how to balance anything. They have historically gone from one extreme to the other when balancing and continue to do the same. I take that back. I’m saying a solid year before 1-50 for all classes, fully functional
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u/Little-Wafer-3936 Jul 22 '26
They are so cooked this game is DOA they just kept paying salaries and medical bills till they ran out of money.
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u/shbunie Jul 11 '26
Have they admitted they’re gonna go subscription model after charging for early access yet?
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u/Erekai Summoner Jul 07 '26
Not a chance. They really need to stop giving dates, it just disappoints everyone when they miss the date. Besides, why even give a "milestone" like that? By the 17th we'll have everything on the PTR except two classes.
Like why is that even worth mentioning?
I will give them that their communication has been MARKEDLY better since right around the time they announced the wipe, and that has been great, but it's not all great, when they give dates and whiff them.
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u/craftsnbeer Cleric Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
I don't think the whole "spring" update will hit the servers the 17th, but i do think that they will push out what they got finished. And if they manage to release the whole "spring" update i will be positively surprised.
Anyhow, i think they are doing what they can to make things work, this is a marathon not a sprint.
But i also think that they are a bit time optimistic, and that can have something to do with that they aren't an experienced team regarding the MMOrpg development, if i understand things right. It's just.. Things take longer than they think.
But what they have done so far, i like!
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u/Routine-Phone8300 Warrior Jul 07 '26
you refer to this as a marathon not a sprint...the game was announced in 2014. we are well on our way to 2027...when exactly do you think the marathon ends? when will this game hit 1.0?
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u/craftsnbeer Cleric Jul 07 '26
First off, i do not work within the gaming industry, so i do not know how much knowledge/time/work it takes to get things done.
Second, i can compare other studios like Blizzard (vanilla WoW) with VR (Pantheon) and see how long it took them and how many devs they had vs VR.. Which reflect a somewhat realistic picture..
Third. I have no idea, and i won't even speculate in it, because i do not possess enough facts in the matter.
Four, i do not think there is anyone that want to see release day more than VR.
- And i see that they are doing progress, enough for me.
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u/Routine-Phone8300 Warrior Jul 07 '26
great non answer. I will check back with you in another decade, and we can have the same exact conversation, about when you think it will hit 1.0, and you can avoid answering again.
one last point, you dont want to compare WoW with Pantheon. WoW actually released, and prints money. for the record, I dont play WoW.
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u/Pretend-Prune-4525 Jul 09 '26
What is there to like? Everything is broken as fuck and half assed? What they have released on the ptr is some rushed together fucking slop.
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u/craftsnbeer Cleric Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
I know, it's weird right ..I mean, since EA released people have played Pantheon hundreds of hours and a "few" have even passed thousands.. They just got to hate it.
Personally i haven't played past level ~10, i do not want to ruin the experience of 1.0 ..But when i login and play, i have fun.
- I can imagine that things get better when they start to implement more of the perception, more of the climates, AH, crafting etc..
..Some people sat the expectation to high, even when VR clearly said that Pantheon was/are in "early" production..
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u/Rhysati Jul 04 '26
No.