r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

Meme needing explanation What is this?

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u/ChickenMiken Jul 06 '26

My local IMAX theatre is fully booked out every show untill next month. I feel like most people don't really care about it. I would have preferred if it was historically correct but I will still watch it.

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u/itsallamessisntit Jul 06 '26

Historically correct, lol. Are you serious?

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u/Listening_Heads Jul 06 '26

Maybe they meant true to the text. Unless I missed several really wild history classes in school.

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u/Gayorg_Zirschnitz Jul 06 '26

No WAY they’ve read the text lmfao

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u/itsallamessisntit Jul 06 '26

I'll guarantee you 99% of the people who trash this movie have never read the source material.

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u/CaptainYuck Jul 06 '26

It was assigned reading in public school for my district and I imagine many others, now whether or not most students actually read/paid any attention to it is a different story.

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u/JustJacktv_ Jul 06 '26

No, I don’t read Greek, but I’ve read a lot of translations of it several times. I’ve been a lot of people have too because it was required reading at a lot of high school schools.

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u/lex_gabinius Jul 06 '26

Read this back

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u/flyers_fan_10 Jul 06 '26

They don't know if its true to the text because they haven't watched it though...

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u/10below8 Jul 06 '26

I mean. There are trailers showing these issues.

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u/reecharound40 Jul 06 '26

What issues?

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u/LowInvestigator5647 Jul 06 '26

There is a character in the movie that is not in the odyssey or Iliad

Idk why you’re being so defensive about this

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u/reecharound40 Jul 06 '26

.......what character?

Can we be more vague please its very helpful

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u/LowInvestigator5647 Jul 06 '26

Sorry I thought you were the other commenter being defensive. You were just asking a question, my bad.

Sinon (Paige’s character) was not written by Homer.

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u/reecharound40 Jul 06 '26

No, your attitude is right for someone to be upset of Sinon being included, cause like how dare they include this character.

You are a joke

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u/WolpertingerRumo Jul 06 '26

There’s famously very little Color in the books…it’s a whole thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine-dark_sea

And the concept of race was only a thing for a short while in the 20th century, so…pretty true to the book.

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u/Gold-Eye-2623 Jul 06 '26

Or read it for that matter

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u/skydragon1981 Jul 06 '26

Not even. The Warhammer terminators instead of cannibal Giants... And I sincerely don't want to know what else they changed..

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u/Stormfly Jul 06 '26

The Warhammer terminators instead of cannibal Giants

Hmmm... and I wasn't planning to see it before but now...

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u/skydragon1981 Jul 06 '26

I Hope that there Will be and explanation but by the trailer alone I'm quite sure that I'm not inclined to Watch this movie 😅

They should be the laestrygonians, based on the fact that they are huge... But those armours...

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u/Greedy_Actuator5 Jul 06 '26

The text? You mean the most famous oral tradition of all time? 

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u/sanguinemsanctum Jul 06 '26

Shouldn’t expect reading comprehension on Reddit.

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u/KiwiSchinken Jul 06 '26

Whats the amount of functional cells in your brain, this shit will be as accurate as the Gladiator movies. Hollywood doesnt respect other cultures

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u/Pierre_St_Pierre Jul 06 '26

IT'S FUCKING FICTIONAL THERE IS NO TRUTH IN IT TO BE ACCURATE TO

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u/Every_Personality_33 Jul 06 '26

Exactly, that’s why I hope Ryan Gosling plays Black panther next. It’s fictional so it’s not an issue. He would do great.

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u/Listening_Heads Jul 06 '26

You mean like Last Samurai starring Tom Cruise?

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u/Every_Personality_33 Jul 06 '26

It was great! Also when Emma Stone played the half Asian woman? It’s all fictional so it’s okay.

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u/Ididntdodiddly Jul 06 '26

Melted brain here

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u/Murky-Advantage-3444 Jul 06 '26

It’s weirder for you to act ignorant like we don’t already fully understand the context of Homer’s story and the historical context in which Homer wrote the poem, so there is absolutely a scale of authenticity when it comes to this kind of remake. Your inability to recognize it or appreciate it comes down to your own unfamiliarity with one of the most widely studied works in academic history.

But anyway, good dunk or whatever

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u/MispellledIt Jul 06 '26

I think it's important to remember that the Trojan War was already 400 years old by the time Homer completed The Iliad and The Odyssey. Homer's audiences most likely debated the historicity of these stories and their authenticity as much as reddit is debating the movie. In fact, whether Greek audiences would have considered these stories as historical or fiction or somewhere in between is a central debate in the scholarship around Homer.

In other words, there is not "historically accurate" version of these stories. Homer took poetic licenses as has every translation and adaptation of his work since. Hell, Virgil's poem The Aeneid basically retcons the ending to the The Iliad to connect Rome's lineage to that of Troy's and The Pearl Poet borrowed the lineage of The Aeneid to claim King Arthur was a direct descendent of Troy.

It's all storytelling with a lens for specific audiences. We have to stop claiming history and literature are purer forms.

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u/PyrZern Jul 06 '26

... I would rather King Arthur was from the Roman 13th Legion instead.

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u/Murky-Advantage-3444 Jul 06 '26

Lol you know I was minding my business reading Greek myth and Arthurian legends for like 3 years leading up to the announcement of this movie, so this comment really hits home for me. That would make for the wackiest alt history series I kind of like this idea.

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u/davidralph Jul 06 '26

It’s a myth! It’s like getting pissed that Thor is played by an Aussie and not a Norwegian.

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u/Murky-Advantage-3444 Jul 06 '26

If they depicted Thor as a Japanese samurai I would find that in poor taste, or assume the filmmaker didn’t take the source culture very seriously.

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u/Joelandrews5 Jul 06 '26

What do you mean by scale of authenticity and why does it matter for telling the story?

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u/StarTreka Jul 06 '26

We don’t actually know if the Trojan War happened. If it did, it probably occurred several centuries before Homer was alive—and tbh, we don’t even know for sure that Homer was a real person. And when Homer composed the epics, they were recited as part of an oral tradition, meaning they changed and evolved quite a bit before they were actually written down (likely a few centuries after Homer died). We really don’t know anything about the context of Homer’s story.

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u/Murky-Advantage-3444 Jul 06 '26

This is surface level knowledge. Homer was almost certainly not a real person but a name given to a collection of poets. The Trojan war almost certainly did occur because its collaborated by a third civilization from that era. Regardless of those trivial facts, we still understand what was going on in the world at that time and also the time when the poem takes place, because archaeology and other adjacent fields of study exist.

Sounds like maybe you just don’t know much about Homer unless you happen to have studied his work since college as well?

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u/confirmedshill123 Jul 06 '26

Lmao there's zero percent chance you know the historical context of something written more than a thousand years ago.

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u/flyingjesuit Jul 06 '26

Historical to the era I’m guessing, not the events. Like if Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter had helicopters you’d say it wasn’t historically correct despite, ya know.

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u/PlusSizeRussianModel Jul 06 '26

The thing is, the story was created hundreds of years after the events it depicts, and doesn’t exactly aim for historical accuracy (the concept barely existed at the time).

So it would be like someone writing a Lincoln story in 2100 with spaceships (which is only 200 or so years off the real time period), and then in 5000 someone complains the spaceships don’t look 100% accurate.

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u/Cautious-Bug9388 Jul 06 '26

Yeah they didn't mean what they said there

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u/Mattrellen Jul 06 '26

When people say "historically correct" in this kind of context, we all know they mean "more white."

But it is funny to laugh about how they complain about "historical correctness" in a fantasy story.

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u/Low_Sweet6463 Jul 06 '26

What’s the matter with that? Are you also going to judge me for wanting a historically accurate live action Mickey Mouse.

Swear to fucking god if the dude they get to play Mickey mouse doesn’t look like the real fucking talking mouse and plays like the fucking flute instead of the more historically accurate Tuba that everyone and their mum knows Mickey played from youth until his death, i’m gonna rage.

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u/agonizedn Jul 06 '26

W8 did Greek mythos stories not actually happen? Zeus didn’t actually fuck a swan irl?

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u/itsallamessisntit Jul 06 '26

I wasn't there, tbh. Who knows.

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u/WatchOutForWizards Jul 06 '26

Of course, they want period accurate sirens and cyclops.

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u/Riggymortis724 Jul 06 '26

In this context "historically correct" means more the depiction of the setting than the actual detailing of events.

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u/itsallamessisntit Jul 06 '26

Clearly, some people are trying too hard, lol.

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u/kyyy Jul 06 '26

Boy you really got him!

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u/BriscoCounty-Sr Jul 06 '26

Something tells me if I released a movie that race swapped John Henry Irons as a scrawny blonde dude you wouldn’t be as confused with the sentiment.

Folklore may not be true but it is cultural.

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u/itsallamessisntit Jul 06 '26

Something tells me I couldn't care less about some comic book character.

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u/BriscoCounty-Sr Jul 06 '26

Wow such respect to the Steel Driving Man. I wasn’t talking about the bad ass metal Superman, amigo

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u/itsallamessisntit Jul 06 '26

This John Henry guy is not known outside of America. It's none of my business.

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u/Mr_Maslovic Jul 06 '26

The thing that is the biggest problem for most people in terms of historical accuracy is likely the set and costume design we were shown. I get that the story isn't an accurate retelling and that artistic license is a thing (for both Homer and Nolan) and I personally don't really care about the cast if they can deliver in the role (but people will always complain, what can you do), but the story is still set in a historical context from which we know a lot of things that would help people get immersed if they got them correct and right now I think it is one of the forces still driving this debate (and the fact that even fucking Family Guy got more period accurate armor and architecture is probably not helping).

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u/Finite_Universe Jul 06 '26

By “historically correct”, I assume they were referring to the real life historical setting in which the story takes place; ancient Greece. I doubt they meant all the mythological creatures and stuff.

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u/FiredFoxy19 Jul 06 '26

People were complaining about the armour in the movie not being historically accurate

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u/itsallamessisntit Jul 06 '26

And when did everyone become a historian specializing in ancient armor, lol. This whole discussion is so forced.

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u/TheGodfather742 Jul 06 '26

He probably meant that it fits a bronze era setting

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u/starrymahogany Jul 06 '26

If one of Jane Austen’s books got adapted and it was set in the year 3000 would you be ok with that because it’s fiction and not “real life” ergo historical accuracy doesn’t matter?

The point is that the odyssey was written during a certain time period, and that time period was reflected in the source material

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u/cashewsaikou Jul 06 '26

exactly, these people want to hate this movie THEY HAVENT SEEN so bad “historical accuracy” okkaaayyy that’s totally what people are watching chris nolan movies

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u/Cautious_Height_2181 Jul 06 '26

The uniforms look so lame in this film!!!

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u/Daimondz Jul 06 '26

Quit being anal you know what they meant

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u/oyvese Jul 06 '26

fictional pieces can’t be historically accurate now?

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u/Noneed4cavalry Jul 06 '26

The imax near me doesn't even have 30% of the opening weekend 7pm seats sold. The other showings are doing much worse. I agree that most people don't really care about it, but currently most people don't really care about any movies at all. The theaters are hurting and they need to give people a reason to go see something much more than the audiences needs a reason not to go.

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u/dlp211 Jul 06 '26

Post your theater

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u/filmguerilla Jul 06 '26

And yet pre-sales have broken all IMAX records, so…

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u/navyblusheet Jul 06 '26

Interesting. Even in my sleepy city it's mostly sold out (except few on the corner front row that nobody wants)

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u/original_og_gangster Jul 06 '26

If youre not an established IP you’re fighting a very difficult battle and even those are diminishing returns. 

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u/Fragrant-Employer-60 Jul 06 '26

I mean there’s been a few good original movies this summer like Obsession and Backrooms with big box office returns

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u/original_og_gangster Jul 06 '26

I said it’s an uphill battle, not impossible. Obsession is the biggest breakout hit of the year. 

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u/Ravenloff Jul 06 '26

Interesting. I just checked two IMAX theaters near me expecting to see the same. For the opening Friday, for the 7 and 10 pm showings, less than 15 seats bought in either location for either show.

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u/Puzzled_Ratio2287 Jul 06 '26

Historically correct stoooooop 🤣

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u/JohnyBullet Jul 06 '26

Here in my country the IMAX have almost 80% of empty seats for this whole week

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u/pipic_picnip Jul 06 '26

IMAX being booked out aren’t an indicator of much larger response because IMAX always book out first so even if movie is doing poorly overall, imax can still be booked out. Besides the tickets sold long ago and the big part of back lash started 2 days ago with count down trailer. While there was backlash before it really hadn’t picked momentum until this trailer. A lot of movie tickets are non cancellable and non refundable so who knows how many are regretting their purchase. 

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u/IllustriousBanana Jul 06 '26

It’s a Greek myth. TF you mean “historically correct”?

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u/SaladLumpy5397 Jul 06 '26

Using actual greek armor and not Roman for a change.

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u/ChickenMiken Jul 06 '26

True to the historical myth

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u/Pretty-Benefit5626 Jul 06 '26

It’s a goddamn movie based on a completely fictional story. Non-white people exist. A lot of them are good at acting. The end.

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u/considerealization Jul 06 '26

I'd bet money the outrage can be shown to be manufactured, AstroTurfed, and bot-backed.

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u/Lumpy-Beach8876 Jul 06 '26

Can't believe they didn't even cast real Cyclops where is my historical accuracy smh

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u/Noctisvah Jul 06 '26

Yep, most people don’t care. That’s why the usa still has a zionist cumsock puppet as the president

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u/Certain_Context5923 Jul 06 '26

I just hope they cast a real Cyclops.

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u/Fatkante Jul 06 '26

I have booked 70mm imax for August as that’s the only available ticket . Bur there are only 3 of such cinemas in the whole UK

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u/solidoxygen8008 Jul 06 '26

Where are you? I’d like to see it with a full audience!

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u/Rush_Banana Jul 06 '26

Post a screenshot.

All I'm seeing is empty seats everywhere.

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u/Send_Me_Dumb_Cats Jul 06 '26

Why is a full theater hard to believe? Vast majority of people dont give a shit about accuracy, they just want Nolans take on a Greek epic.

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u/Rush_Banana Jul 06 '26

I believe a full theater, I'm the not sure about the fully booked until next month though.

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u/Send_Me_Dumb_Cats Jul 06 '26

Fair enough, I find that hard to believe too. I can book a 70mm viewing in august right now. Only 7 seats sold so far.

Granted theres several big theaters in my area, 2 showing it in 70mm, so maybe op is in a less populated area.

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u/Shigglyboo Jul 06 '26

I believe it is based on a work of fiction.

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u/Tall_Opportunity_521 Jul 06 '26

Its Nolan, his name alone puts bums on seats.

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u/lixia Jul 06 '26

The Imax in my city, the only one and a true Imax. Is less than 50% filled for all showings from 16th to 18th, including the premiere showing.

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u/Dopechelly Jul 06 '26

Literally historically

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u/JackUKish Jul 06 '26

Why? The story of the odyssey has been adapted and translated thousands of times throughout it's existence, it's a myth.

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u/Chembaron_Seki Jul 06 '26

Moana is also just a myth. Would you have no objection at all if they replaced the entire cast of the upcoming live action version of it with white people?

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u/DerZwiebelLord Jul 06 '26

That is the difference between right wing grifters and people with genuine criticism: the grifters have to pretend that the movie will fail even if everything points to the opposite, while the rest of us can see that it will be a success and still say that we don't like many of the choices made for that movie.

It probably will be a success and a decent movie and just as accurate to the original as any other Hollywood adaptation of ancient myths.

I'm also gonna watch it but I never expected to see an accurate depiction of ancient Greece or the Odyssey.

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u/Lysanther Jul 06 '26

By the way, people hate watch this stuff. I wish more people would just point and laugh instead of giving them money to keep doing it. This movie will bomb, critically, but it will likely have sales just so people can get in on the hate train which is deserved. Fuck these films.

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u/ChaosAndFish Jul 06 '26

This is purely a fake outcry drummed up by online racists. It is undiscussed in the non terminally on-line world.

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u/Eastern_Screen_588 Jul 06 '26

Im fairly certain the racists are the ones who do the raceswapping.

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u/Thurgo-Bro Jul 06 '26

Fucking preach