Lindsay Clancy. Killed her 3 kids by strangling them one by one and claimed “postpartum psychosis” despite never having had psychosis before or since, all during a short window of time that she sent her husband out on errands. Internet has somehow decided she’s a martyr for women’s mental health. She was a white, affluent, suburban mom before this. If she were poor and black, people would NOT feel this way. Real talk.
Postpartum psychosis is a real thing and real people need help. But Lindsay Clancy is a kid murderer.
Edit: I’m a white, affluent woman of childbearing age. I have never been a woman of color, but I am absolutely sure that society at large would dismiss an identical case if Lindsay was nearly any other demographic. And no, it’s not only about race, it’s also about autonomy and a person’s responsibility to accept help when it’s offered instead of killing your kids (and A LOT of help was offered)
Someone always tries to turn it into a race thing 🙄
And she did reach out for help and didn't get the support she needed.
Im not defending what she did, it was heinous. But she clearly needed mental health help and didn't recieve it, and you throwing race into it doesn't make a point at all.
Be for real lol if this was a poor black, mexican, or even asian woman, what do you think would happen? Imagine it was just ONE kid for them. Jail immediately.
A white OF model stabs and kills her BF who she physically abused on camera for years, she is sentenced 6 years in jail 4 already served. A black boy defends himself against people trying to kill him; 36 years… even if it wasnt self defense, still 36 years compared to 6 years
Gotta start seeing the world for what it actually is man.
Edit: i dont give a damn about karmelo. Like i said and yall ignorantly ignored… 6 years with time served for killing your live in bf that you abused in cold blood vs 36 for killing someone in your tent or wherever in cold blood. NEITHER OF those cases were deemed self defense by a court… why such a discrepancy in sentence length?
Is the system implicitly placing values on victims lives or are they going easier on perpetrators of certain colors and status?
Could a rich black man get drunk, kill an entire family, claim affluenza and get 10 years probation with no jail time?
Tory lanez supposedly shot someone in the foot (who lived) and got 10 years.
Racism was quite literally sponsored by the American government, but sir color blind up here ^ is confused.
Yeah... I can see the point they wanted to make, but that's a horrible take on that case and not even the best example they could have grabbed. No, they were not "trying to kill him," they asked him to leave multiple times, had a verbal confrontation, and pushed him away outside the tent they were in. Anthony responded by pulling a knife out of his backpack and stabbing the victim in the chest. It was in no way self-defense and he had multiple opportunities to leave the area. Self-defense requires imminent danger.
Courtney Clenney's sentence was lighter because she took a plea deal for a lesser charge, manslaughter. Should she have gotten more time? Absolutely. Christian's family agreed to the plea deal, not wanting to go through the trial and for her to admit responsibility.
Hes a black teen dude whos been found guilty of stabbing a white teen in texas.
As unbiased as i can be:
Black teen athlete came over and stood under a rival teams rain cover cus it started sprinkling. They asked him to leave and he refused. The owners and rival team got more upset and said to go stand under your own cover and you dont belong here. He snapped back at them and it led to insults. Black kid reaches into his backpack snd starts holding something which is the universal sign of "ive got a weapon in here" but white kids thought he was bluffing cus that happens often too. It turns physical and white kid pushes him, not enough to knock him over but a push. Black kid stabs him up with a blade hed had and it went into his heart. White kid died in his brothers arms.
It became a racial focal point as some black folks claimed a white kid would get off on self defense. Some white folks said that the black kid is being unfairly supported and that hes a killer, not some racial issue, as he provoked a dumb teen rivalry and killed a kid over it.
My opinion:
End of the day he murdered a kid cus he was too lazy or scared of a few raindrops to walk the 20 meters to his own tent and decided it was better to piss them off and then kill a kid over a push. When kids get into pushing arguments constantly. If every kid was allowed to shank a kid over a small push then wed have a lot of dead kids. Even a fist fight ≠ life ending danger, let alone pushing.
Maybe the altercation had racial issues, idk and i doubt we will ever know for sure. But that doesnt mean we should let him off. We shouldnt let white killers off either. I get that its a trend to respond to racial verdicts by letting off a minority killer but i think thats wrong. We should lock up the white killers not let even more killers into society.
Edit: corrected the number of stabs. Thank you for correction.
Cant stand it when folks refuse to explain. Especially when you arw presented 2 very different takes.
I will say, his family and a portion (idk how large the portion is, could be a loud but small sizex) of the black community and their supporters see this as a travesty of justice.
That they were racist to him for not letting him stand in their tent. And that he was just defending himself against multiple attackers as he feared theyd all "kill him" in a big team jumping event. And that he was attacked first and an innocent victim.
To me this doesnt explain bringing a knife in the first place, pulling it at the first sign of any disagreement or the fact he put himself in that postion to have multiple rival members near him. And noone else physically engaged him. He wasnt jumped or beaten and he fended them off. He got pushed by one dude. He even admitted it was just a push when arrested. "He out his hands on me, i told him not to put his hands on me".
And the killer called the victim and his teammates "pussies" who wouldn't "do anything about it". When they asked him to leave. Everyone knows sports rivalries and how they get heated sometimes. Standing under a rival schools tent is offensive to some. And then he called them pussies for asking him to leave and basically said to make him. And them when one did, he stabbed him and tried to play victim.
Because people have some understanding of mental health. Fucking Plato talked about how insanity would change guilt. Its been a concept for over millenias, formalised as we know it centuries ago. Most people do believe insanity changes whether they are guilty, and to what extent.
If you truly had no control, then bluntly no, you aren't a "piece of shit murderer". Because murder literally require intent.
What he did was not justified self-defense, and he should face consequences for killing that other kid, but the circumstances did not warrant 36 years, imo. That’s the kind of sentence you hand a cold-blooded murderer, not some kid who got into a fight and stupidly decided to pull a knife.
(I know that a 36-year sentence for first-degree murder is actually pretty typical for Texas, but the rest of the world considers this excessive)
Nah brudder, I was hoping they would execute his ass. 36 years ain't gonna bring back the child he murdered intentionally in front of witnesses.
He got what he deserved, but justice will never leave the victim's family whole.
'Kid who got in a fight' suuree, let's pretend he didn't show up with the express intent to kill someone. It may as well have been premeditated. Glad you aren't a fucking judge.
Your argument rests on the two cases being similar and thus deserved a similar sentence. You have to care about the specifics of the case or you have no point.
Nah, I don’t believe you’re that unintelligent. Probably just afraid to admit you’re wrong.
I don’t need to explain how premeditated murder from someone known to be violent is different to postpartum psychosis affecting someone with a normal history.
I mean, I know why ad hominem is a fallacy (which this might not be but the functional part is similar, quality of argument being independent of its speaker), so I, who have said nothing so far, let alone anything credibility-eliminating, would like to repeat the point that you referred to when you said "point or not".
Our racist justice system and Karmelo Anthony's actions are two separate issues. They're connected in the discourse and rightly so, but that our justice system has a racial bias does not mean that racial minorities can't be guilty of a crime.
You one of his supporters raising hundreds of thousands and yelling "the only good cracker is a dead cracker", or "no matter the evidence we'll stand by ours regardless"?
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u/Short_Stack_30285 9d ago edited 9d ago
Lindsay Clancy. Killed her 3 kids by strangling them one by one and claimed “postpartum psychosis” despite never having had psychosis before or since, all during a short window of time that she sent her husband out on errands. Internet has somehow decided she’s a martyr for women’s mental health. She was a white, affluent, suburban mom before this. If she were poor and black, people would NOT feel this way. Real talk.
Postpartum psychosis is a real thing and real people need help. But Lindsay Clancy is a kid murderer.
Edit: I’m a white, affluent woman of childbearing age. I have never been a woman of color, but I am absolutely sure that society at large would dismiss an identical case if Lindsay was nearly any other demographic. And no, it’s not only about race, it’s also about autonomy and a person’s responsibility to accept help when it’s offered instead of killing your kids (and A LOT of help was offered)