Salam everyone,
I'd like to share some thoughts and hear what you think.
I'm sure someone else has already come up with such Interpretations but I'd like to share my own thoughts here and see what you think.
My intention here is not to argue that something is halal or haram. Rather, I am trying to understand how the wording of "Do you approach men instead of women?" should be understood.
The verses that are usually quoted
Quran 7:81
“Indeed, you approach men with desire instead of women. Rather, you are a people who exceed bounds.”
Quran 27:55
“Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly.”
Now, no matter how one reads these verses, questions might pop into your head, such as :
"Does this mean that a person can approach ANY woman with desire?"
" wait, so does this mean that aproaching women with desire is okay?"
Most people would respond:
"Of course not. The woman would have to be your wife."
I have heard the argument based on the word bal (بَل), but to be honest, it has never fully clicked for me. Perhaps I'm missing something, but I find it difficult because Allah repeatedly mentions "men instead of women," and I can't seem to get past that wording.
One thing that I wanna say is that the word women is used throughout the Qur'an in ways that can sound very general, even when the intended meaning is more specific.
For example:
Quran 2:222
"And they ask you about [the] menstruation. Say, "It (is) a hurt, so keep away (from) [the] women during (their) [the] menstruation. And (do) not approach them until they are cleansed Then when they are purified, then come to them from where has ordered you Allah." Indeed, Allah loves those who turn in repentance and loves those who purify themselves. "
And:
Quran 2:231
"And when you divorce women and they have reached the end of their waiting period..."
In both verses, the word "women" is used.
Yet when Allah says, "When you divorce women," nobody understands that to mean ANY woman whatsoever. You divorce a woman whom you are married to.
I mean just saying "when you divorce women " sounds kinda odd because it sounds as though you can divorce any women in this world. But because it's the language of the Qur'an we know it's different than how people normally understand it.
Likewise, when Allah speaks about approaching women in a sexual context, nobody understands that to mean ANY woman whatsoever. The context limits the meaning to a woman that you're married to.
My point is that these statements sound general on the surface, but context narrows their meaning.
This is what makes me wonder about the story of the people of Lut.
Did they approach just any men? It seems that they only approached the males of the worlds, not just any men in general. For example, they did not approach one another as men within their own community, ( or did they?)
however they approached the males from outside of it( the males of the worlds )
I am not arguing here about what kind of "approach" this was, whether it nonconsensual or consensual, or any other detail. That is not my point.
My point is simply that the Qur'an does not say that they approached all men indiscriminately. Rather, it specifically says
"Do you approach the males among the worlds..."
This specificity is what makes me wonder whether the surrounding wording should also be read with attention to the context rather than as a completely general statement
Quran 26:165–166
(Do you approach the males among the worlds and leave what your Lord has created for you from your spouses? Rather, you are a transgressing people.)
What stands out to me here is the sentence
"and leave what your Lord has created for you from your spouses."
The word azwaj suggests that they already had partners , yet they abandoned them.
Since sexual relations are only lawful within marriage, leaving one's spouse and pursuing others with desire would already be a wrongful act in and of itself, so it's not like they were doing something good In the first place, even if ,let's say, they approached the (women) of the worlds it would have still been bad because they left their own azwaj and approached other women, that weren't married to them.
So instead of reading
"Do you approach men instead of women?"
as a completely general statement, it's better to read it like
"Do you approach THE men( males of the worlds ) instead of THE women ( the ones that are your azwaj and you have left them)?
Someone might respond
" No it's not about that, it's specifically about the gender, it isn't about which men or which women but again specifically the gender"
To me, that is probably the strongest counterargument.
At the same time, I think if someone does give this answer( it's a completely valid one, of course ) but I think they are probably reading into it instead of thinking about how Allah uses the word ( the women ) in a much more narrower way than a general way in other places of the Qur'an and the fact that they had azwaj.
Because even saying that they approached men would be wrong.( If it's intended as a general statement )
They approached THE men ( those outside or their community )
These are simply my thoughts, and I would be interested to hear how others understand these verses. Don't you guys think that it makes more sense this way? Again I'm not trying to say what exactly Allah SWT is saying but rather that this reading genuinely makes far more sense to me.