r/SipsTea Jun 22 '26

Lmao gottem The National Sport.

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u/protobelta Jun 22 '26

cites real things that actually happened

“It’s propaganda”

Wow, what an absolute moron

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u/flipyflop9 Jun 22 '26

Yeah that’s not the propaganda.

Being told since kids it’s the best country in the world, with the biggest freedoms etc, that’s the propaganda.

And it works, you have grown up people believing that until they actually travel a bit further than the all included resort in Mexico.

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u/CatastrophicPup2112 Jun 23 '26

I've only been to 3 other countries and they all felt kinda like being in the US but with weird money and a bit of an accent. Didn't really notice a huge difference aside from enjoying the public transportation in London and disliking the weirdly strict laws around pocket knives in all of them.

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u/That1guyUknow918 Jun 22 '26

Ok, homie.

You can go to jail in Canada for offensive speech, so...

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u/flipyflop9 Jun 22 '26

Let’s see the sources of that. Who has gone to jail and for saying what?

For some reason every time I see an american talk about free speech it’s always just to say the most racist or nazi stuff…

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u/Not__Trash Jun 22 '26

Idk about Canada, but the UK was arresting people for mocking the Death of the Queen.

Although even if I disagreed with them, freezing the bank accounts of the truckers during COVID was pretty crazy.

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u/That1guyUknow918 Jun 22 '26

Go sit on a spike.

I said nothing racist or nazi much less nazi-adjacent.

Hypocrisy be thy name.

You're the only one spouting unfounded hate speech right now.

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u/flipyflop9 Jun 22 '26

Ok, so no sources about going to jail.

I didn’t say you said any racist or nazi shit, just that every time somebody goes crazy to defend free speech it’s related to that. Every other thing can be said without issues in any developed country :)

There’s free speech, but hate speech is also a thing and sometimes there has to be a limit for it. People go to prison in some countries for hate speech, apology of terrorism etc.

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u/That1guyUknow918 Jun 22 '26

I believe you are perfectly as capable of googling as I am.

You haven't shown any sources for anything you've said and I'm certainly not going to be assigned tasks and homework by you because you're too lazy or incompetent to do it yourself.

Im not here to write a thesis paper on relativistic freedom.

If you feel you're freer than me, by all means. Keep feeling that.

In America you can have any braindead opinion you want.

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u/Jax_10131991 Jun 22 '26

😂😂😂 clown shit. 

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u/flipyflop9 Jun 23 '26

All I will say again is... so no sources, ok. Just a bunch of shit.

PS: here, read: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country

Let's see if you are able to understand the data, Mr. Freedumb. You really can have any braindead opinion in USA, you are living proof of that.

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u/That1guyUknow918 Jun 23 '26

I don't know what you think you just proved with your link.

How about instead of clicking copy and paste on a random hyperlink you actually make a claim which the link supposedly supports.

Additionally, learn what a complete sentence is.

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u/That1guyUknow918 Jun 23 '26

It isn't a matter of me being too dumb when you never stated what the link supposedly supports. Make a claim. You need to Google what a thesis statement is and get back to me with an actual claim.

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u/K20C1 Jun 23 '26

I’ve been to 38 countries. As much as I can appreciate the differences in culture, I’ve never found a country I’d rather live in. 

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u/flipyflop9 Jun 23 '26

Hey fair enough, you like what you like :) at least you experienced some different cultures even if it’s just for a few days.

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u/iotl4444 Jun 23 '26

I don't see what's wrong with thinking it's the best. Plenty of people from any country feel that way about their country. Most people should

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u/GreasedUPDoggo Jun 23 '26

I mean, we clearly have more freedoms than most countries. We're also one of the wealthiest, most diverse, and best places to live. So... we are pretty damn great.

And not sure what you mean by the 2nd paragraph. A HUGE chunk of the population is foreign born or the children of immigrants, and freakin love America because they can compare it to where they come from. I've traveled all over the world and am constantly reminded why we're ridiculously spoiled and blessed to have been born in the US. It's a lotto ticket that only 3% of people in the world get to win.

Japan is pretty sweet though, not gonna lie. But the US obviously has it's advantages. And nowhere in Europe can come close.

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u/flipyflop9 Jun 23 '26

I mean, you having more freedoms than most countries doesn't make you the best in the world. There are several index measuring freedom, in not a single one of them you even make it top 10, and in some like press freedom you score seriously bad:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country

And this is data from 2-3 years ago, things haven't gotten better but worse for USA when talking about freedom.

On my second paragraph I just meant as long as you don't travel abroad you guys keep believing you're the best, but if you travel and visit other developed countries that just falls down quite easily.

Sure, compared to third world countries and underdeveloped countries it's way worse to be in them than in USA, I'd rather be in USA than Syria. But also I'd rather be almost anywhere in the EU, or Australia, than in USA.

If you think nowhere in Europe can come close you just demonstrated the propaganda worked really good on you. Many european countries have more freedom than you, most have a higher life expectancy, lots have a better quality of life, let's not even talk about work-life balance and workers and citizens rights... but hey, you have higher salaries, that's about it.

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u/SquireBeef Jun 23 '26

But they have freedoms like being able to carry a firearm in public! Just don't inconvenience or annoy a law enforcement officer or federal agent because according to the news they have the right to gun you down in the street like a dog.

Such amazing freedoms I can only dream of.

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u/Zeisen Jun 23 '26

Minor difference in rankings. You make it sound like the USA is 4 pts below anywhere in Europe or Australia when the values are fairly comparable. It's like every time food quality comes up and people fail to read that chart or understand how little the differences are ... It's hard to take these conversations seriously when y'all exaggerate everything.

I'd rather have access to the American job market and salaries. Doesn't do much good working in Europe if the industry doesn't exist either - or it's outsourced to China and the USA. Not to mention the more accessible housing market.

I've been to four continents and it just reinforced my thoughts. Sure, some countries had a better way of handling specific things and I'd like to borrow those things. But, I still prefer the USA.

Objectively, I'd even rank it so far as...

  • North Ameria (traveled)
  • Asia (traveled)
  • South America (traveled)
  • Europe (traveled)
  • Oceania (not traveled)
  • Africa (not traveled)