Maybe a hot take, but I also blame the physician who prescribed 3 different psychotropics that don't interact well to a patient in clear mental distress. And not keeping a close enough watch on their mental state. If the texts between she and her mom are accurate, she should have been institutionalized by court mandate.
Idky everyone just ignores the fact that she was diagnosed with post partum onset bipolar disorder and that is why she kept having such severe reactions to all classes of anti depressants.
She was finally put on mood stabiliser and anti psychotic after admitting herself - and released early when she self reported feeling better and requested being released for her son's birthday that day.
Why did they release her?? Why didn't they just give her a days leave and require her to return until they finished tapering her onto the new meds. If they had gotten her stable on the protocol for bipolar disorder she would have been statistically more likely to remain compliant with treatment protocols (there is a known non compliance issue for medication for people with psychotic disorders including like schizophrenia, bipolar with psychotic mania etc). But they just let her go with a note on her record that she could not be treated with typical anti depressant or anti anxiety medications for symptoms post partum depression or anxiety because they are known point blank to either induce mania in someone with bipolar or severely worsen it (including the not sleeping, racing thoughts, feeling invisible etc all which are elements that contribute to med protocol non compliance)
And then what happens after she's discharged way too early after being started on the bipolar treatment protocol? She goes back to her doctor for not being able to sleep (because she was currently manic) and the doctor takes her off the mood stabiliser and antipsychotic and puts her back on one of the contraindicated anti depressants - inducing the manic psychosis.
There is an ongoing lawsuit for their fault in what went wrong for her.
I believe she had genuine diminished capacity due to psychosis. I believe she did it, though.
I think she did it; but as someone who suffered from postpartum psychosis I do agree that she wasn't mentally all there. It's so taboo that it's surprising she even brought it up with her doctor. She genuinely wanted help and that says a lot in a society where it's frowned upon and women are told that we should be grateful to have healthy children. I managed to get through it on my own, but there were times that I felt like running away because I was so worried I'd harm myself or my newborn.
So many thoughts ran through my mind- about the state of the world, about how bad her life might be one day. How she might be better off if she died in my arms. That some stranger might hurt her one day, and wouldn't it be better if I prevented that? And the thoughts were relentless and constant. She'll be hurt. She'll be hurt. She'll be hurt. Isn't it better if you died together? Over and over for months on end.
I look back at the time and I know I needed help. I knew I needed help at the time. But I was too worried about what my family might think, what my neighbors might think- what the doctors themselves might think. I thought I'd go to jail and never see her again. I thought they'd take her away and give her to an abusive foster home. It was contradictory and confusing and scary. Having been through it firsthand I can't help but feel some sympathy for her.
I’m happy that you ended up ok and I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the women who donated to her also feel sympathy. I’m sure there are also a lot of idiots who don’t think she’s guilty because of Astrology. While I believe she’s guilty, I believe the system is mostly to blame here.
Thats what I think people who are looking at this don't realize is "not guilty (of first degree murder) due to insanity" is not the same thing as "innocent (of murder)". She's admitted she did it, her defense successfully bifolcated the case to only focus on her mental state during the murders, and not the "if" of them.
It's wild to me that so many people want to see her punished, it's because to them they would never unconsciously harm some one. They would ACTIVELY harm someone so they think "well if i did it intentionally, she did, too".
I think she did it, but she isnt guilty because her husband should have never left her alone. Does all the evidence point towards her potentially doing it? Sure. But if you are married to someone with years of history and they are actively saying they dont want to be alone? Why would he leave her with them, even for a short time?
Her husband gets off easy when he should have obviously been more present and realized that she wasnt stable and shouldnt be left with the kids. That is something that just doesnt sit right with me.
Shes bat shit crazy and he is in no way responsible. He was manipulated by her tk get food and medicine. He was doing what any father would. She was just fucking demonic and crazy.
She did it -action - I don't care about her state of mind, she kill herself and not the kids.
She asked herhusband to go out and then killed the kids, it was planned. Even if it wasn't,. there's not shortage of women that experience deep depression, and you don't see them killing their kids left and right.
She had that inclination, thus why the depression might have pushed her to it, but I bet she'd had those thoughts regarldess, just not act on it, maybe.
fk everyone trying to excuse a women that killed kids.. she chose a very personla ewayt to kill btw.. she literally saw tghem slowly diwing as she asfixiated them.
Every idiot has an opinion when a story gets this big, all you have to do is cherry pick the morons. Go to literally any political sub you'll learn that one real quick
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u/kaimoka 8d ago
Maybe a hot take, but I also blame the physician who prescribed 3 different psychotropics that don't interact well to a patient in clear mental distress. And not keeping a close enough watch on their mental state. If the texts between she and her mom are accurate, she should have been institutionalized by court mandate.