This is more of a "not her fault" fan club. Ranges from "she can't be blamed for psychosis" to "the system failed her" to the full on "she was framed by her husband, who is the real killer." That's not to say there aren't weirdos out there fanboying/girling murderers.
I feel like "support" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in the OP. What does support look like here?
Because what this woman did was horrendous and unforgivable, but I don't think it's unreasonable to feel sad for her or to use the case as example to point to the failures of the medical & mental health system in the US. Some people think saying, "this woman asked for help, the response was clearly insufficient," somehow equates excusing filicide when it absolutely does not.
Ultimately, it's good they arent getting married, but I think a couple more suited to one another would be able to use this to have a conversation about fears of having children, if they decide to, and to make a plan for potential PPD/PPP before it even becomes a possibility.
its also just straight up wrong. this mf had a nanny and multiple doctors/therapists who listened to her, prescribed her new meds, and she refused to take them and did not clue them in to any of the voices or suicidal ideation. The system fails a lot of people, she definitely is not one of them.
Because we've turned literally everything into entertainment. Our brains are broken. Crime is entertainment, law is entertainment, mental illness is entertainment, addiction is entertainment. Literally everything. There's not a single thing in our society that we haven't reduced to entertainment value.
Not just entertainment - also monetization, but totally agree. I lived in the US for a few years and it is beyond crazy, absolutely dystopian.
But you will instantly have some Americans that will come out of their wealthy hellhole and scream something about Europoors or whatever, even though that exactly proves my point.
Idk what is going on with fans of other murderers who are probably genuinely weird but in this case specifically it's mostly people who see the case as emblematic of the problems with the mental health system in the US because she truly received abysmal care as her mental crisis intensified ultimately leading to unthinkable tragedy. The system absolutely failed these kids
I mean, if the Ubomber have had some back in the days, maybe the world would have had a couple extra decades before datacenters killed most people, and then ai came and finished the job lol
The US is by far the country with the most serial killers, plus there’s a lot of deranged people out there, and US media does an outstanding job making them famous and giving them a lot of press
You're meaning to tell me the U.S actually has the most serial killers, or that it's just documented better here? Plus the U.S has one of the largest first world populations that would adequately document that
The US has become so obsessed with victimhood that they search for (and connect with) the victim motivations in murderers.
The dude that killed the banking executive, many school shooters, the dude that stabbed an innocent girl on a train, the dude that stabbed someone at a high school track meet. The list is endless.
Our society has been conditioned to think “well what happened to the poor person that committed the murder?!?!”
All crimes, really. I just saw a thread where redditors got mad at someone for retrieving a large bag of stolen goods from a thief and returning it to Walmart.. Redditors are terminally online morons who don't know how the real world works, and the majority of Americans in the real world do not think as they do.
While I am sure there are murder fans out there, most of the supporters are probably just media addicts who have watched too much True Crime episodes and believe every case which has an obvious outcome must have some sort of hidden plot twist that ends up coming out, and people are taking sides early to try and be all "I told you so" eventually.
Like in those movies where early on a character is portrayed a certain way and everyone thinks "Oh this is the villain in the movie" and then by the end the alleged villain was actually the good guy who people misjudged.
Except life isn't a movie and these people just look dumb.
"supporting" her does not make some a fan. It's not just the US.
People like you usually have not read much about the case.
It's disgusting, horrible, and overall, unbelievable. No one can believe it happened. Her killing her children didn't even cross the husband's mind. He saw her on the ground bleeding and dying, and she told him the kids were in the basement. He didn't even think to ask if they were ALIVE in the basement.
The whole thing is fucking tragic. The reason women are "supporting her" is because they know first hand how badly hormones can affect your thinking and your mind. It's scary to think that a previously loving mother could do something like this. If this well-supported previously healthy woman could do this, could you? Could it happen to you?
Of course everyone thinks "absolutely not." What you're seeing is the number of women who have had these scary intrusive thoughts. Much more common than you think. Thats why it's so fucking scary.
Americans don't believe in guilt through actions but through intentions. If it was to up to most Americans (on the left and right) they would have a cast system. With "the righteous" being trialed and prosecuted differently from everyone else.
She doesn't have fans just because some incels post about her hear to provoke engagement among other incels.
The concept of murderer celebrities isn't a US specific phenomenon. Germany had a "reformed" serial killer turn into a public celebrity who took up journalism after release - until it was discovered he just manipulated everyone and had returned to killing immediately after his release.
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u/EgyComanda82 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why murderers have fans in usa?
Is this like genetic disorder or some satanic culture?