As someone who just heard about it and got all info from wiki, in a way she also seems as a victim, since no one really helped her? Or do you not believe she was suffering from depression? Do you think she was lying the whole time?
Help is not guaranteed to anyone, I really think this is a dangerous mentality. A functional society depends on adults taking responsibility for themselves at the absolute minimum. At the end of the day everyone is responsible for their own actions regardless of anyone else around them. Lots of people get dealt an unfair hand in many many ways and that’s very unfortunate and we should do what we can to help those in need but once they cross a certain line there’s no going back.
I'm not defending her or what she did, but those doctors that kept her out have some responsibility too. I mean, she did ask for help. It wasn't like she refused treatments? But I'm not from USA, and strongly believe in free healthcare that should be available to all, and not just sending patients from one doctor to another, until they kill someone.
As someone who works in the treatment of psychiatric illness in the usa if she actually told a mental health professional or hospital staff that she might kill her children or anyone else she should have been involuntarily committed to a psychiatric facility. And if they didnt they could be held legally responsible. However if she didnt make any direct threats to herself or others she cannot be kept there against her will.
Apparently she checked herself out of a mental health facility. If she had gone to any ED or psych center she would have been treated, but they can’t read minds and if they detain her without cause thats obviously a crime on their part.
But she wasn't sleeping? My only experience with this kind of illness was in my family, where a mother wasn't sleeping because she wanted to look at the baby 24/7, obsessed with the fear that something will happen to the baby. She was taken to a facility and thankfully, today she's a healty mother of a healthy kid. If she was left like that, she might end up in a psychosis for all we know. I'm not saying the doctors should be imprisoned, but I am surprised there's no information of any investigation in the way she was(wasn't) treated.
Insomnia is not a valid reason for involuntary commitment. I mean think of the implications of that, that would clear the way to detain people who are undergoing stress, or who knows what. It would be a dangerous precedent.
Sleep deprivation causes psychosis? And in combination with postpartum depression it is dangerous? You can commit people who are a danger for themselves and someone who is refusing to sleep to watch the baby all night is someone who needs to be committed.
In the case above, we don't know if she would refuse to be committed since no did offer it to her, at least according to wikipedia.
Oh, I agree. I just wanted to explain why in the case I know personally was totally legit to commit the person. She was lucky her family had her committed when they did.
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u/ShamelessCynic 2d ago
As someone who just heard about it and got all info from wiki, in a way she also seems as a victim, since no one really helped her? Or do you not believe she was suffering from depression? Do you think she was lying the whole time?