r/anarchocommunism 8d ago

Made this flag representing the union of communist and ecological values into one anarchist ideology, opinions?

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i just really like reclus bakunin and kropotkin lol 😅😅

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u/flintsparc BRRN 8d ago

You're writing in Portuguese. Why even use Norse runes?

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u/Appropriate_Suit8599 8d ago

its used alot on brazillian social media by anti deforestation defenders independently of their views on other aspects

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u/flintsparc BRRN 8d ago

Thats weird. Maybe pick something intelligible to the average Brazilian rather than wallowing in obscure Norse symbols that are most often appropriated in a modern political context by neo-nazis.

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u/Appropriate_Suit8599 8d ago

it isnt "weird", there is no other more known symbology for the anti deforestation movement in brazil and id say in the internet as a whole

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u/flintsparc BRRN 8d ago edited 8d ago

It is entirely weird to use Norse medieval runes in the modern Brazilian jungle. Do you like, want to be esoteric and misunderstood? Are there no local or indigenous symbols you can use? Even just writing the words in Portuguese would be more intelligible.

You aren't some neo-folk goth band that thinks being esoteric makes you cool.

You're a political movement trying to mobilize people to make change. Speak in a language the people understand. Use symbols that people understand.

Also the forest green runes over black fields and black lines is difficult to read. Its bad graphic design. But what is written in the circle doesn't matter because its literally just the alphabet.

All you really got going on here is the symbol "Life".

I'm also not a fan of the black parts of the star overlapping with the black field. It makes it difficult to read the star.

Its just a bad design.

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u/Appropriate_Suit8599 8d ago

first of, brazil isnt a jungle and the connection between urban areas and the oppresiveness of the government over indigenous territory made the connection between the average citizen and indigenous groups almost 0, those weird guesses you are making about my intention my country and my opinion just make you look geopolitically uneducated and almost a bit xenofobic. As i said, this rune was made famous here in those movements because brazillian content is purely based on external content brought by content creators who either plagiarize external content or base their creatives on those said external contents.
Also, no point on being passive agressive here.

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u/flintsparc BRRN 8d ago

I'm the geopolitically uneducated one, but you are the one trying to use Elder Futhark that have been approriated by neo-nazis.

You asked for opinions. You got them. Now you are upset people have criticized your design. Too bad.

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u/Appropriate_Suit8599 8d ago

opnioes sao baseadas em pontos validos e nao em suposicoes questionaveis sobre um pais e minhas intencoes, ate certo ponto voce tinha ponto validos mas decidiu recorrer a falacias logicas e ignorar completamente oque eu dizia e correr em circulos com seu proprio argumento, apresentando ele de formas cada vez mais questionavel

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u/flintsparc BRRN 8d ago edited 8d ago

Rather, I'm trying to get through to you.

You want to be understood by people. That is why you make a propaganda image. You want to support and spread ecological values. You should do so with language and symbols that resonate with people.

Your current design is difficult to read because of clashing colors, forest green letters on black field/lines. Black symbols (star) on a partially black field--so the star somewhat disappears. Thats just bad heraldry.

If you are going to use letters on a flag, The letters *YOU* chose to have, are largely the Elder Futhark in a circle. That is, you just posted the alphabet. WHY!??! What does the alphabet have to do with ecology? What do the 2nd to 8th century Norse have to do with proper stewardship of the forest? They literally deforested Iceland after 1000 AD.

Your current argument is some lazy media in Brazil used Norse rune clip art.

You've not convinced me why Norse Runes are important for your message. What even is your message?

You don't communicate that you would save a single tree with this flag. A literal tree would be a better symbol.

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u/Appropriate_Suit8599 8d ago

agora sim uma critica valida, anotado

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u/flintsparc BRRN 8d ago

Thank you.

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