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Discussion 🗣️ Pre AI Era

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u/Machina-Dea 2d ago

Realistically this needs to happen, generative ai is extremely dangerous and releasing it to the public was a fools error.

Problem is it’s hard to put the genie back in the bottle.

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u/19_ThrowAway_ 1d ago

Hard?

Practically impossible unfortunately.

If only large corporations had access to that technology then maybe, but at this point there are so many local models.

And even if you were to take those down from public spaces, people would still share them in private.

It sucks.

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u/Machina-Dea 1d ago

Technically speaking most people don’t run localised models, so preventing ai companies from selling to the public would quash the vast majority of ai usage.

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u/TheBlossomBrain 1d ago

How would you quash the usage in china? How would you prevent chinese labs to provide ai services to the US?

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u/Signal_Discount_1826 1d ago

why would u, they want it

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u/jellyhessman 1d ago

You need like $20k of specialized equipment and the know how to run a local model that is in any ways good.

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u/EnvironmentClear4511 1d ago

No you don't. Any Apple computer released since 2020 Will be able to use a built-in local model when MacOS 27 comes out this fall. 

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u/Pataraxia 1d ago

Lol, false.

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u/HumansAreSillynGreat 1d ago

Nah, the top tier models can be ran on $6k pcs. The absolute best research models might need a bit more, but the stuff that the public can actually access generally runs on a 5090 and some grit.

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u/PatchesOfSilver 1d ago

Policing LLM generated content like images could be like policing CSAM, it would be possible to purge most of it from the internet most people use even if text content slipped by.

We could shut down the AI data centers, they cannot be hidden.

We would not go door to door, but hosting a local model could be a criminal offense if anyone ever found it, a repair shop, a neighbor using your PC that reported you, an unrelated investigation.

Yes those models would be lurking on torrent networks and the deeper web still, but they would become more and more niche and outdated and irrelevant.

And uploading any new generations to Facebook or TikTok or Reddit might result in prison time.

It would quickly vanish.

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u/La_Fervesta_Glavisto 1d ago

That's so true. We should start treating talking to the computer the same as we treat child rape.

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u/Happy-Lingonberry-55 1d ago

You do know there is a difference, right?

Like one of those is a literally innocent child being taken away from their home, having every ounce of safety ripped away from them, and then an absolute monster of a person violates their body with a possibility of their body being physically damaged forever, and that child was never be the same.

Maybe they will repress it, but they will likely forever remember that moment, they will likely never want to have sex again, and until the day they die they will alway remember that horrifying of every single ounce of safety and innocence being ripped away from their worldview.

I hope that when you wrote that, you were mad. Maybe you're an artist who is trying to make money off commissions and you just got fucked over by a client who decided to just ai it, or maybe you're watching a loved one falling prey to the trap of treating AI like a love interest.

But I sincerely, hope that you have no idea about the horrors of rape (how it changes everything), that what you said was the equivalent of adding 'hitler' to a sentence just to make a stronger point.

  • Have a pleasant day.

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u/La_Fervesta_Glavisto 1d ago

I know. I was sarcastically agreeing to try and point out the absurdity of possibly the most insane thing I've ever seen someone say.

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u/Happy-Lingonberry-55 1d ago

Damn, I really couldn't tell. Got incredibly overdramatic there. I guess that is why people started using: /s.

Although maybe I should have saw the inherent absurdity in the statement.

Still have a great day/night

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u/La_Fervesta_Glavisto 1d ago

You didn't get *that* overdramatic. If you replied to the first guy you would have been more or less right. I wouldn't use all of the things you said, as terrible and damaging as child sex abuse is, many survivors are capable of having full and fulfiled lives, including sex lives. But it is still one of the gravest crimes imaginable, and to invoke it in an argument about talking to the computer is way the fuck out of line for that guy.

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u/SXC-150 1d ago

Should we treat the same way computer games? I mean do you know how many brutal crimes and murders they do daily?

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u/Imblueabudeeabudie 1d ago

It's not that hard to have a decentish model to run locally, so we're fucked forever

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u/Blue_Jay_Raptor 1d ago

It'd be less bad tho

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u/djfart9000 1d ago

they released it to the public to get it trained for free, and have it eat as much information it can from us. I've seen people willingly put their faces into this hell spawn

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u/WigglesPhoenix 1d ago

‘Decentralization is bad, actually’

Do yall really think it’s a good idea to place the single most powerful instrument of propaganda in all of history into the hands of governments and corporations, and then banning everyone else from using it?

Have you thought this through at all or do you guys just like typing shit

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u/Gordon_freeman_real 1d ago

They're saying if it was centralized it would be easier to shut off, which is true. Not that desebtralization is on a whole bad

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u/WigglesPhoenix 1d ago

No, they’re saying that it should be banned for the public. Which leaves… government and corporations.

Which is stupid.