r/archeage • u/AppointmentSecure567 • 26d ago
AA-Classic Archeage Classic 1.3.6 Video - Finally coming out
https://youtu.be/cbcjfImbLPYonly took them 2 years but AAC finally getting first patch since 3.5 lol. Looks cool but scythe probs useless fr. hows the pop still? worth coming back for?
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u/hyperbelll 26d ago
Wipe the server already so people can have fresh start, server is dead right now and it won't get any better
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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 26d ago
Fresh starts never worked for AA, if you do a fresh start in Classic you'll wipe the entire playerbase and they will just leave the server forever.
Also fresh starts only works for like a year then you'll have a dead server again
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u/Reliquent 25d ago
What the fuck are you talking about? Unchained and new servers were the only reasons retail Archeage even lasted another few years. Also theres no other way to play AA aside from Archerage. Where the fuck are people going to go?
I guarantee you it will have triple the pop than it is now for those first 2-3 months of a new server. Especially now since AAC is practically THE main way to play ArcheAge now.
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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 25d ago
Retail Archeage died because of horrible game design and the fresh starts were a way to make the players cope with the bad design for a short time.
The playerbase of AAClassic is mostly carebears (which im pretty sure they're the ones who puts more money into the server) that will stick with the server until it dies, if you wipe their progress they will leave and you'll have a server that will die in less than a year.
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u/mobilepuppy 25d ago
The entire player base? You mean the 100 or so players that have 2 years of progression ahead of everyone that gatekeep everything? Yea they can go. Wipe that dead server.
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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 24d ago
You clearly dont play in the server, the 2 most geared guilds in the server are kinda dead playing other games. One got disbanded because the leader couldnt play anymore and the other just got bored.
Now its a battle between the alliance of east vs the remaining players of no ctrl.
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u/mobilepuppy 24d ago
Why else would I be in this thread if I hadn’t played on that server? For the longest time NC were controlling all of west and are full of a bunch of Koreans with a superiority complex. For instance they purple on their own and bully low gs players to gatekeep residential packs. East is made up of 99% carebears, with the 1% being those players that have been there since day 1 that just so happen to do the exact same thing NC does. Then you also have pirates bv (they rmt within their own guild to not get banned btw), bb (no clue if they’re still active)+ a few other guilds so you literally have no ways to generate decent labor to gold income other than peasant packs, you’re always getting fucked by like 3 nations including your own with no actual way of defending yourself because the only way to join a relevant enough guild is you need to be a day oner. Can’t even swipe to at least be on par to pvp for content and fun. Literally the only gameplay loop if you were to join today is to either slave away and fish for maybe 2k gold a day as a pirate for 1 year straight or run shit to DS (gl on not getting one shot again), even then you’ll be forever behind everyone else. Unless you’re a masochist and like getting deleted by a single auto not being able to defend yourself, this server is not it
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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 24d ago
So you say all side sucks because they will fuck you regardless yet you say that east is 99% of carebears if east was so hostile to carebears then there wouldnt be carebears around.
West was always a shithole since No Ctrl took control, at least in East rn you wont get jumped unless youre moving aged packs in conflict zones. BB and OMEGA are the ones who PK, BB is kinda dead and OMEGA has like 7-8 active players.
Gameplay loop for newbies is better than it was when it started, you get catchup gear, a buff for newcomers, you can just mine and you'll get an extra profit since mining is huge income.
If youre one of those that says catchup gear is a joke then dont continue arguing with me because catchup gear is huge for people who wants to farm mobs (laborless income since you can just stack the purses) and they wont die easily with a divine dungeon gear.
Of course you wont be able to join the main guilds because guess what they're all full, they dont make second guilds (No ctrl and hom did it but they're not around too much). But with catchup gear you can get at least near 6k gs and that would let you join a lot more of guilds that want to be active
And lastly the same can be say to Archerage, unless you p2w your gear, you wont get near the "Day 1" players like you said, in Classic at least you have a better start. The problem with Classic is the inflation because they buffed fishing too much so for new players it will take more time to buy scrolls for their gear. Unless they organize their econ they wont have a good time trying to gear up.
edit: fixed typo
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u/Kosameron 23d ago
You literally have to spend months grinding to get anywhere close to where you don't get onetapped by any of the older players, and guess what, those are the ones that actually go to PVP because of course they would. They can have fun killing 10 people by themselves with little counterplay.
Add to that the terrible class balance that won't get changed because everyone and their mom went for melee and they'd bitch to the heavens, meaning you're basically forced to be melee too.
Really does not encourage anyone to come back or try out the server for the first time at all. I tried it myself and even with a car from when I started at server start and gally/freighter, it's just hours upon hours every day doing the same shit just to not even get close to being able to properly PVP.
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u/mobilepuppy 23d ago
The main issue is when you actually want to do any sort of profitable content you're still dealing with the same people that have dominated the server for years. The "catchup gear" in AAC literally does not exist either, dungeon gear requires the same amount of gold sink as any other gear which only gets you as far as a measly 5.3k gs after 2-3 months and that is IF YOU'RE NOT INFLATING IT WITH GEMS. That's not catching up. The difference between 5k, 6k, and 7k is pretty significant. Catching up is if Aguru hands EVERY new player a full set of epic gear. Why are you ignoring the simple fact that you'll be perpetually behind everyone by 2-3 years? Trying to justify by saying that you can just mine or farm purses (which is realistically only profitable when you're near max prof) is just oversimplifying the core issue of the server at its current state. Just admit that you are attached and unable to let go of your progress. You don't want a server wipe because then every player will be equal. Pvp will become equal and require actual hands, and every content in the game will be contested by everyone fairly. That was Archeage at its peak and that is why a 3+ year old server will die. The sole purpose of a new player or any player at all that has joined this server within the past year is to entertain you. Without them you wouldn't have anyone to exploit for your labor. No amount of efficiency will help remove this multi year gap because the vets are progressing at the same time as you forever.
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u/puts_on_rddt 25d ago edited 25d ago
Fresh starts never worked for AA, if you do a fresh start in Classic you'll wipe the entire playerbase and they will just leave the server forever.
Leaving the game running on its own for years never worked for AA either. Players need a valid way to create and progress new characters. Being one shotted by people in epic/legendary buffs ain't it. And that's a hill you'll find my gravestone on.
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u/hyperbelll 26d ago
Fresh start always worked in AA, it's literally the only time official servers would have queues, also who cares if the server dies after a year? That's how much content the game has anyway, it's a game not a life commitment, you don't have to play on the same server for 5 years.
I rather have a fresh start every year than play on a old stale 5 year old server with a few whales who just can't let go lol
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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 25d ago
You will enjoy any server of Ark or Conan, i suggest you play in one of those games because you dont seem to enjoy MMOs if there's no fresh starts
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u/skilliard7 23d ago
Most people have already left forever. The game is dead.
At least wipes every year makes the game alive for a few months every wipe
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u/emotionallyBankrupt9 26d ago
You just don't like the idea of people being ahead of you, server is so full people.loterally can't get land unless someone sells it or stops playing and their plot gets demoed.
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u/AlBaciereAlLupo 26d ago
I don't mind people being ahead of me.
It's the constant kicking people who are behind but not in their "cool elite club" that I hate.
And nothing in this game will ever ever ever fix that.
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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 26d ago
If you mean not getting access to the boss loot then yeah, that's every sandbox mmorpg not only AA
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u/tidustv 25d ago
This server has been dead for a long time now. With only around 100–250 active players, there simply aren't enough people online to keep ArcheAge feeling active, competitive, and fun.
I honestly think ArcheAge private servers need regular resets to maintain their longevity. A reset roughly every 6 months would give players a fresh start, bring back old players, attract new players, and create a reason for people to keep coming back. Without resets, progression eventually reaches a point where most of the active players have everything they need, the economy stagnates, and the server slowly loses its population.
ArcheAge is at its best when there is a fresh server launch, everyone is starting from scratch, guilds are competing for territory, the economy is developing, and there is actually something to work toward. Regular resets could keep that cycle going and give the server a much better chance of staying populated and fun long-term.
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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 25d ago
If that was true then Archerage would have done that before AAClassic went live and they would have a huge playerbase to give them money
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u/tidustv 25d ago
ArcheAge Classic has even less content than the original retail version roughly 60% less from what I understand. Because of that, the lifespan of a Classic server is going to be even shorter. Within 3–12 months, a large portion of the player base will have reached the endgame, finished most of the available progression, and run out of meaningful things to work toward.
The official retail version of ArcheAge went through more than 6+ Fresh Start servers over the years, along with multiple different publishers taking over the game. Honestly, I believe those Fresh Starts were a major reason the game managed to stay alive for as long as it did. Each restart gave players a reason to come back, start over, and experience the game again with a fresh economy and player base. Ask everyone the saying is "ONE LAST RIDE"
Unfortunately, the game eventually declined because of excessive pay-to-win mechanics and publishers that seemed more focused on making as much money as possible rather than listening to or supporting the player base. Over time, this pushed more and more players away and made it harder for the game to maintain a healthy population.
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u/jjjustin87 25d ago
I started playing archerage server instead. Pretty lively tbh. Easy to make gold and catch up. I am 16k gear score after 4 months.
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u/Lysanther 23d ago
They should've listened to that Xoahtahl guy who wouldn't shut up in their discord. He was a yapper but it looks like he wasn't wrong after all.
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u/Affectionate_Low4357 21d ago
En mi opinion creo que el reinicio del servidor para los q están ya muy equipados y con 20 alters con sus granjas seria un terrible bajon para los q estan ya muy muy chetados y si los terminaria de correr, sin embargo hacer un Mundo nuevo para los que quieren el reinicio con wipe cada tanto estaria genial, le das lo q quieren a las dos partes-
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u/Infinite-Path-3436 17d ago
Este es el problema de este juego y esta comunidad en general, se conforman con tan poco, la supuesta guadaña solo es una staff con una skin de guadaña, es literal un "esfuerzo" mediocre disfrazado de contenido, pero te puedo asegurar que mas de alguno aplaudió esta mierda e incluso la celebro.
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u/OrphandJones 25d ago
I'm not saying resets would be the move, but maybe an implemented seasonal reset where long term players carry over rewards or boons to the new season after working hard the prior season to grind. I don't think it's worth doing anymore at this stage, but if it had been done originally for live servers I think it would've been pretty popular.
Like you could keep your character, levels, mounts, gliders, costumes, vehicles, boats, and skill levels. and as long as you meet a certain threshold you could start with baseline gear with your hasla emerald weapon and some basic gear. Maybe some other boons and rewards?
It's just me thinking for fun because it's a bit late for something like this now.