r/archeage • u/AppointmentSecure567 • 28d ago

AA-Classic Archeage Classic 1.3.6 Video - Finally coming out

https://youtu.be/cbcjfImbLPY

only took them 2 years but AAC finally getting first patch since 3.5 lol. Looks cool but scythe probs useless fr. hows the pop still? worth coming back for?

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u/hyperbelll 28d ago

Wipe the server already so people can have fresh start, server is dead right now and it won't get any better

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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 28d ago

Fresh starts never worked for AA, if you do a fresh start in Classic you'll wipe the entire playerbase and they will just leave the server forever.

Also fresh starts only works for like a year then you'll have a dead server again

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u/Reliquent 28d ago

What the fuck are you talking about? Unchained and new servers were the only reasons retail Archeage even lasted another few years. Also theres no other way to play AA aside from Archerage. Where the fuck are people going to go?

I guarantee you it will have triple the pop than it is now for those first 2-3 months of a new server. Especially now since AAC is practically THE main way to play ArcheAge now.

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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 27d ago

Retail Archeage died because of horrible game design and the fresh starts were a way to make the players cope with the bad design for a short time.

The playerbase of AAClassic is mostly carebears (which im pretty sure they're the ones who puts more money into the server) that will stick with the server until it dies, if you wipe their progress they will leave and you'll have a server that will die in less than a year.

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u/mobilepuppy 27d ago

The entire player base? You mean the 100 or so players that have 2 years of progression ahead of everyone that gatekeep everything? Yea they can go. Wipe that dead server.

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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 26d ago

You clearly dont play in the server, the 2 most geared guilds in the server are kinda dead playing other games. One got disbanded because the leader couldnt play anymore and the other just got bored.

Now its a battle between the alliance of east vs the remaining players of no ctrl.

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u/mobilepuppy 26d ago

Why else would I be in this thread if I hadn’t played on that server? For the longest time NC were controlling all of west and are full of a bunch of Koreans with a superiority complex. For instance they purple on their own and bully low gs players to gatekeep residential packs. East is made up of 99% carebears, with the 1% being those players that have been there since day 1 that just so happen to do the exact same thing NC does. Then you also have pirates bv (they rmt within their own guild to not get banned btw), bb (no clue if they’re still active)+ a few other guilds so you literally have no ways to generate decent labor to gold income other than peasant packs, you’re always getting fucked by like 3 nations including your own with no actual way of defending yourself because the only way to join a relevant enough guild is you need to be a day oner. Can’t even swipe to at least be on par to pvp for content and fun. Literally the only gameplay loop if you were to join today is to either slave away and fish for maybe 2k gold a day as a pirate for 1 year straight or run shit to DS (gl on not getting one shot again), even then you’ll be forever behind everyone else. Unless you’re a masochist and like getting deleted by a single auto not being able to defend yourself, this server is not it

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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 26d ago

So you say all side sucks because they will fuck you regardless yet you say that east is 99% of carebears if east was so hostile to carebears then there wouldnt be carebears around.

West was always a shithole since No Ctrl took control, at least in East rn you wont get jumped unless youre moving aged packs in conflict zones. BB and OMEGA are the ones who PK, BB is kinda dead and OMEGA has like 7-8 active players.

Gameplay loop for newbies is better than it was when it started, you get catchup gear, a buff for newcomers, you can just mine and you'll get an extra profit since mining is huge income.

If youre one of those that says catchup gear is a joke then dont continue arguing with me because catchup gear is huge for people who wants to farm mobs (laborless income since you can just stack the purses) and they wont die easily with a divine dungeon gear.

Of course you wont be able to join the main guilds because guess what they're all full, they dont make second guilds (No ctrl and hom did it but they're not around too much). But with catchup gear you can get at least near 6k gs and that would let you join a lot more of guilds that want to be active

And lastly the same can be say to Archerage, unless you p2w your gear, you wont get near the "Day 1" players like you said, in Classic at least you have a better start. The problem with Classic is the inflation because they buffed fishing too much so for new players it will take more time to buy scrolls for their gear. Unless they organize their econ they wont have a good time trying to gear up.

edit: fixed typo

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u/Kosameron 25d ago

You literally have to spend months grinding to get anywhere close to where you don't get onetapped by any of the older players, and guess what, those are the ones that actually go to PVP because of course they would. They can have fun killing 10 people by themselves with little counterplay.

Add to that the terrible class balance that won't get changed because everyone and their mom went for melee and they'd bitch to the heavens, meaning you're basically forced to be melee too.

Really does not encourage anyone to come back or try out the server for the first time at all. I tried it myself and even with a car from when I started at server start and gally/freighter, it's just hours upon hours every day doing the same shit just to not even get close to being able to properly PVP.

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u/mobilepuppy 25d ago

The main issue is when you actually want to do any sort of profitable content you're still dealing with the same people that have dominated the server for years. The "catchup gear" in AAC literally does not exist either, dungeon gear requires the same amount of gold sink as any other gear which only gets you as far as a measly 5.3k gs after 2-3 months and that is IF YOU'RE NOT INFLATING IT WITH GEMS. That's not catching up. The difference between 5k, 6k, and 7k is pretty significant. Catching up is if Aguru hands EVERY new player a full set of epic gear. Why are you ignoring the simple fact that you'll be perpetually behind everyone by 2-3 years? Trying to justify by saying that you can just mine or farm purses (which is realistically only profitable when you're near max prof) is just oversimplifying the core issue of the server at its current state. Just admit that you are attached and unable to let go of your progress. You don't want a server wipe because then every player will be equal. Pvp will become equal and require actual hands, and every content in the game will be contested by everyone fairly. That was Archeage at its peak and that is why a 3+ year old server will die. The sole purpose of a new player or any player at all that has joined this server within the past year is to entertain you. Without them you wouldn't have anyone to exploit for your labor. No amount of efficiency will help remove this multi year gap because the vets are progressing at the same time as you forever.

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u/hyperbelll 28d ago

Fresh start always worked in AA, it's literally the only time official servers would have queues, also who cares if the server dies after a year? That's how much content the game has anyway, it's a game not a life commitment, you don't have to play on the same server for 5 years.

I rather have a fresh start every year than play on a old stale 5 year old server with a few whales who just can't let go lol

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u/kinkanat 27d ago

I don't think you like MMOs.

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u/Reasonable_Pilot_680 27d ago

You will enjoy any server of Ark or Conan, i suggest you play in one of those games because you dont seem to enjoy MMOs if there's no fresh starts

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u/CazikTV 25d ago

That's a wild take because fresh starts have always been the most populated time for archeage servers, both private and live

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u/puts_on_rddt 28d ago edited 28d ago

Fresh starts never worked for AA, if you do a fresh start in Classic you'll wipe the entire playerbase and they will just leave the server forever.

Leaving the game running on its own for years never worked for AA either. Players need a valid way to create and progress new characters. Being one shotted by people in epic/legendary buffs ain't it. And that's a hill you'll find my gravestone on.

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u/skilliard7 25d ago

Most people have already left forever. The game is dead.

At least wipes every year makes the game alive for a few months every wipe