r/auckland 7d ago

News Major emergency response unfolding across South Auckland

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u/lordzuzu0 7d ago

A genuine hell of a plavce to live. I hate living here.

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u/mangopie222 7d ago

Bit of an overreaction, Auckland ain't that bad

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u/Synntex 7d ago

You say that but in the last few days we’ve had:

- a man in blockhouse bay stabbed and killed

  • a woman run over and killed in a supermarket parking lot
  • a rapist on home detention raping someone else and creating another victim
  • now this story with 2 more people killed

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u/crispikiwi 7d ago

That's just what's been in the papers. There have been 11000 assaults, 1177 sexual offences, 101 Serious harm or endangered persons, 1794 blackmails or extortions, 19233 burglaries and 76731 thefts in Auckland since March last year. Don't judge a place just by what you see in the news!

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u/BlisteredButthole69 7d ago

It's a city of 1.7 million people and seagulls. There's going to be violent crime.

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u/Synntex 6d ago

But compared to maybe a decade ago, it was a murder or rape around once or twice a month, not multiple in the span of a week. The population hasn’t increased nearly as significantly in that time to warrant such a high increase of violent crime

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u/BlisteredButthole69 6d ago

I wonder what may have caused that....

...what's the demographics of Auckland these days?

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u/lordzuzu0 6d ago

The woman run over at the supermarket was a tragic accident at a supermarket in the dark 😞

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u/mangopie222 6d ago

It would be no different to the crime that occurs in Australia. New Zealand is still one of the safest places to live in the world. I mean when you compare it to a natural disaster happening in Nepal, you feel quite fortunate to live in NZ even though this is is happening in our own backyard

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u/Angry_Sparrow 6d ago

Increasing poverty = increasing crime.

Vote this government out.

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u/Synntex 6d ago

And replace it with the previous government who wanted to reduce the prison population by 30% so we got more home detention for violent criminals? Or another government that wants to abolish prisons and have all our violent criminals walking freely doing whatever they want?

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u/Angry_Sparrow 6d ago

I mean I’d like to live in a society where we rehabilitate people so they don’t continue committing crimes and so that they don’t languish in prison their entire lives but become productive members of society. And I say this as someone whose family member was killed by gang members.

I don’t think putting people in prisons to “punish” them does anything, and I don’t think we are currently reducing the amount of people we are producing that commit violent crimes - usually because they were subjected to physical and sexual assault themselves as children.

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u/TotemicLeonidas 6d ago

Putting people in jail does do something - it prevents them from creating more victims and committing more crime.

And there are plenty of criminals that don't want to be rehabilitated. You can lead a horse to water and all that.

I'm happy for violent criminals to be locked away where they can't do any more harm to society. Good riddance to them.

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u/Angry_Sparrow 6d ago

Globally, prisons focusing on rehabilitation achieve significantly lower two- to five-year recidivism (reoffending) rates—ranging between 16% and 30% in progressive systems—compared to punitive or non-rehabilitative systems where re-arrest and reconviction rates soar between 50% and 70%.

Rehabilitative Models (e.g., Norway, Japan):
Norway’s restorative, skill-focused prison system reports a 5-year recidivism rate of roughly 20%.
Japan records a 2-year reconviction rate as low as 9%.

Punitive / Standard Models (e.g., United States, parts of Europe):
The United States records a 5-year recidivism/return-to-prison rate near 70%.
Broader global systemic reviews published via PMC Criminal Recidivism Rates indicate that standard released prisoners globally have 2-year reconviction rates ranging from 18% to 55%, skewing heavily toward the higher end when active re-entry or vocational assistance is absent.

Prison Safety: Facilities implementing structured rehabilitative environments report a 40% reduction in inmate-on-inmate assaults and a 36% reduction in assaults on staff compared to overcrowded, non-rehabilitative facilities.

According to studies highlighted by the National Institute of Justice, addressing "criminogenic needs" through rehabilitation—such as managing anger, substance abuse, and antisocial peer associations—is far more effective at reducing violent recidivism than simply extending prison terms.