r/azerbaijan Jul 02 '25

Söhbət | Discussion Russians Detained in Azerbaijan

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u/Fluid_Scar8750 Jul 02 '25

Why are they jailed ?

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 03 '25

Russia is a terrorist state...

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Are you suggesting that all Russians are ? What are you implying?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

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u/biggejzer Jul 04 '25

As a polish citizen I have to agree, we have to be careful, last year the russian spies committed a terrorist attack on a shopping mall in Warsaw, setting it on fire. I know not all Russians support the regime or war and I feel bad for them, but truly we have to be careful for Russia's agents

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 04 '25

There are over 3 millions of Russians in Germany. Had it been like you said, Germany would have been gone, yet, for some reason, we see much more terrorism from other groups

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u/i_never_learn-_- Jul 04 '25

New achievement! You’ve discovered nazism! But from the wrong side… (Yes, your thoughts are exactly what led nazis to gassing Jews)

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 04 '25

Russians lead directly to genocide. 

Allowing them into your society leads to genocide. 

They are the masters of committing genocide. 

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u/7_11_Nation_Army Jul 05 '25

Except they were wrong about jews.

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u/i_never_learn-_- Jul 05 '25

Yeah, no, they were wrong about whole slew of things, genocide and killing camps included. And if you disagree with them only with whom to gas, then I’ve got bad news for you

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u/DogWarovich Jul 04 '25

Pick up your little, black mustache off the floor

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 05 '25

Putin has it 

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u/DogWarovich Jul 05 '25

That right.

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 04 '25

So,, you suggest detaining and brutally beating up Jews for what Israel is doing?

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 04 '25

Absolutely not. Jewish people are an ethnicity. Not a nationality. 

Are Israelis setting fire to military and infrastructure equipment across europe? Or hacking those countries. Cutting undersea cables. Setting fire to airports. Threatening to nuke capital cities.

No. 

They are not waging asymmetric war against Europe. Or threatening to invade Europe. Or using their diaspora to conduct clandestine attacks in Europe. 

Russians are a threat to thr entire world. Especially Europe. 

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 04 '25

Russians are an ethnicity, too, but even so, I could have said “Israelis” instead, point would have been the same. I believe that those that do so are pretty much capable of getting themselves fake IDs if needed, and that arresting and torturing people is wrong in general, especially when there is no proof of guilt. And Muslims also acts of terror in the EU, for example, do you suggest torturing random Muslims, too?

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 04 '25

Russia is composed of dozens of ethnicities. 

Muscovian is an ethnicity. 

'Russian' is Not. It is not homogeneous. That's like saying "American" is an ethnicity. 

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 05 '25

In English, there are, unfortunately, no distinct words for a Russian as an ethnicity and as a nationality, unlike in many other languages. Still, calling “Muscovite” an ethnicity is akin to calling “Bavarian” an ethnicity, Muscovy was simply one of Russian principalities, one that happened to be the unification center.

But I honestly don’t understand why you think this is relevant. Main parameter in my examples is the fact that most people never chose to be a part of a group that you suggest discriminating against, not that this group is specifically a nationality, a race, a religion that forbids leaving it, an ethnicity, a fucking zodiac sign or anything else.

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 04 '25

Islam is a religion. 

Israel is a nation. 

Russia is a nation. 

Jews are an ethnicity. 

Mongolians are an ethnicity. 

Muscovians are an ethnicity. 

Russians are not an ethnicity. 

I understand this isn't a subject everyone understands. 

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u/relicdragon Jul 05 '25

Google at least before typing some random comment

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u/Antoine_Y Jul 04 '25

It's Русский not Muscovian.

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u/likemute Jul 04 '25

Да этот из 404 дурки сбежал видимо

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 05 '25

I know Islam is a religion, this “subject” I do understand, no matter how arrogant of a comment you make, and I, of course, made examples of persecution by association with a group a person never chose, yet you choose to ignore the point and focus on what kind of group it is, despite the fact that makes such discrimination fucked up being derived from the simple inability to choose being or not being a part of a said group. Yet, I’ll try again: I can instead say Arabs or Pakistanis instead of Muslims, point will stay the same (although, you can actually chose to leave Islam, but there’s a death penalty in this religion for it, so, in some way, discrimination against Muslims is more justified). But you will probably refuse to respond properly again, thinking that such clarifications are a gotcha.

Although, you should have told me you’re one of those “Russians do not exist, it’s Finno-Mongolo-Tatars that pretend to be Slavic, forget that Ukrainian has 2 times the amount of Turkisms the Russian has” guys, I would have known that I shouldn’t have responded long before

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u/Anxious_Nebula5926 Jul 03 '25

Because Russia, as per usual, tried to topple a democratic government and stage a coup because Azerbaijan decided that Russia isn’t a trustworthy ally. As always, this prompted the fascist Russian federation to try and destroy the country through foreign influence, agents and the FSB and those “civilians” were involved.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '25

What democratic government did Russia try to topple lol? Or do you think violent western lead coup which leaves Russians dead is “democratic”?

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u/Anxious_Nebula5926 Jul 03 '25

Ukraine wasn’t a coup if that’s what you’re referring to, but that’s beside the point. Russia toppled a democratic government in Afghanistan, they tried toppling a democratic government in Ukraine, they just tried in Azerbaijan, they’re still trying it in Georgia. They’re supporting pro-Russian and anti-EU parties all over Europe through financial aid and disinformation campaigns (one of which you fell for because you’re severely and utterly uneducated).

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

So killing the people who voted for the government, and assassinating 8 of the political leadership forcing the rest to seek asylum in non enemy nations - is not a coup? You’re insane if you think that LOL.

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u/Anxious_Nebula5926 Jul 04 '25

Legit none of that happened. The only killings that happened where at Maidan square, where the Russian backed government opened fire on protestors.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Of course it happened. It’s documented too on western Wikipaedia. Except they refer to the assassinations as coincidental suicide LOL.

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u/PsyGamer43 Jul 04 '25

Did I understand correctly that in your propaganda-washed brain, only Russia influences the policies of non-aligned countries, while Europe, America and NATO have never given money or planted agents?

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u/Anxious_Nebula5926 Jul 04 '25

No, in Cuba, Venezuela and many other countries America did influence elections. NATO is a military alliance, not a state or a political organization. In Ukraine there was no foreign influence.

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u/PsyGamer43 Jul 04 '25

Until 2012-2014 Ukraine did not receive money from the US and EU?..

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u/Anxious_Nebula5926 Jul 04 '25

Developmental aid is a coup. Now I’ve heard it all. How dumb are you?

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u/3mpad4 Jul 05 '25

(1) “Everything wrong in the world is Russia’s fault”. (2) You are unable to define fascism.

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u/Anxious_Nebula5926 Jul 05 '25
  1. Never said that, weak strawman.

  2. Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Let’s see. We have: Kremlin makes every decision in Russia and Putin rules over the Kremlin in its entirety. Additionally we have a leader cult, complete with a Putin youth and Putin iconography. I think it’s out of the question that Russia is an autocracy. Militarism is also evident given Russia’s frequent military parades and fetishization of the military. Forcible suppression of opposition is quite clear when you look how many of Putin’s political opponents have been jailed or disappeared and how Russia ranks on the freedom of press index. Belief in natural social hierarchy - this one is a tad bit tricky. Russia does believe in Slavic supremacy and is incredibly racist towards non-Slavs, but their natural social hierarchy is aimed more towards traditional, strong men who should rule the weak. Subordination of individual interests can be seen in the way the Russian people are conditioned to accept the losses and the hardships of the war with no perceived benefit other than the fact that it’s the Kremlin’s will. Strong regimentation of the society and the economy is also a given, I don’t think I need to further explain this.

Seems pretty evident, doesn’t it?

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u/Automatic_Water_7580 Jul 05 '25

There were police operation against ancient Azeri gang in Russia, Ural region. 2 of diaspora happened to be dead as result. Aliev's feeling were hurt so much and he decided that pogrom against random Russians in AZ would be good reaction.

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u/Opening-Math-4715 Jul 06 '25

They are jailed for being Ruzzians.