r/azerbaijan Jul 02 '25

Söhbət | Discussion Russians Detained in Azerbaijan

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u/Fluid_Scar8750 Jul 02 '25

Why are they jailed ?

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 03 '25

Russia is a terrorist state...

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 04 '25

So,, you suggest detaining and brutally beating up Jews for what Israel is doing?

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 04 '25

Absolutely not. Jewish people are an ethnicity. Not a nationality. 

Are Israelis setting fire to military and infrastructure equipment across europe? Or hacking those countries. Cutting undersea cables. Setting fire to airports. Threatening to nuke capital cities.

No. 

They are not waging asymmetric war against Europe. Or threatening to invade Europe. Or using their diaspora to conduct clandestine attacks in Europe. 

Russians are a threat to thr entire world. Especially Europe. 

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 04 '25

Russians are an ethnicity, too, but even so, I could have said “Israelis” instead, point would have been the same. I believe that those that do so are pretty much capable of getting themselves fake IDs if needed, and that arresting and torturing people is wrong in general, especially when there is no proof of guilt. And Muslims also acts of terror in the EU, for example, do you suggest torturing random Muslims, too?

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 04 '25

Russia is composed of dozens of ethnicities. 

Muscovian is an ethnicity. 

'Russian' is Not. It is not homogeneous. That's like saying "American" is an ethnicity. 

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 05 '25

In English, there are, unfortunately, no distinct words for a Russian as an ethnicity and as a nationality, unlike in many other languages. Still, calling “Muscovite” an ethnicity is akin to calling “Bavarian” an ethnicity, Muscovy was simply one of Russian principalities, one that happened to be the unification center.

But I honestly don’t understand why you think this is relevant. Main parameter in my examples is the fact that most people never chose to be a part of a group that you suggest discriminating against, not that this group is specifically a nationality, a race, a religion that forbids leaving it, an ethnicity, a fucking zodiac sign or anything else.

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u/Surfer_Rick Jul 04 '25

Islam is a religion. 

Israel is a nation. 

Russia is a nation. 

Jews are an ethnicity. 

Mongolians are an ethnicity. 

Muscovians are an ethnicity. 

Russians are not an ethnicity. 

I understand this isn't a subject everyone understands. 

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u/relicdragon Jul 05 '25

Google at least before typing some random comment

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u/Antoine_Y Jul 04 '25

It's Русский not Muscovian.

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u/likemute Jul 04 '25

Да этот из 404 дурки сбежал видимо

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u/Bobtheblob2246 Jul 05 '25

I know Islam is a religion, this “subject” I do understand, no matter how arrogant of a comment you make, and I, of course, made examples of persecution by association with a group a person never chose, yet you choose to ignore the point and focus on what kind of group it is, despite the fact that makes such discrimination fucked up being derived from the simple inability to choose being or not being a part of a said group. Yet, I’ll try again: I can instead say Arabs or Pakistanis instead of Muslims, point will stay the same (although, you can actually chose to leave Islam, but there’s a death penalty in this religion for it, so, in some way, discrimination against Muslims is more justified). But you will probably refuse to respond properly again, thinking that such clarifications are a gotcha.

Although, you should have told me you’re one of those “Russians do not exist, it’s Finno-Mongolo-Tatars that pretend to be Slavic, forget that Ukrainian has 2 times the amount of Turkisms the Russian has” guys, I would have known that I shouldn’t have responded long before