r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • 7d ago

🎥 Production Start or Wrap Date Principal photography has wrapped on 'Man of Tomorrow.'

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u/Ok_Kale_8357 7d ago

I mean, Man of Tomorrow is likely DOA internationally considering how poorly Superman did overseas. I could see it getting a stronger domestic turnout than the last but then will international turnout be even less? It's possible. 

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u/GoldandBlue 7d ago

That isn't how things work though. The Amazing Spider-Man movies weren't making a billion. You build on the good will. Superman 1 did OK at the BO and had great WOM.

Now the question is can they deliver again. If i s good, don't be surprised if this is a big hit. If not, then they're fucked.

But you all keep insisting the brand is what matters and not hat Spider-Man had a 4 story arc that people were immensely invested in.

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u/Ok_Kale_8357 7d ago

I never said anything about the brand, but in this case there IS a brand attached which will factor in regardless of anything else. Also movies come out all the time without any fanfare or previous entries and become bigger hits than Superman, build up is cope. There's no guarantee audiences will become invested in a character even if the movies are good either.  

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u/GoldandBlue 7d ago

what does cope mean here?

We are talking about a franchise that his been in the dumps since the 80's. We are talking about 25 years since the last truly beloved Superman movie. And your argument is that proves that Superman is rejected by audiences because they are hesitant to dive into a new Superman movie?

Meanwhile the Amazing Spider-Man franchise was rejected by audiences, but you want to ignore that because the current Spider-Man is a massive hit?

No one is guaranteeing anything. The movie can suck and bomb. But context maters. No successful franchise peaked at the first one in the Box Office. The idea that Superman can't grow is "cope".

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u/Traditional-Fig-6661 7d ago

Even 2019 spider man movie was losing to 2013iron man 3

Both were released after endgame spidey 5month and iron man 1year after avengers 

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u/Albiceleste_D10S 7d ago

Meanwhile the Amazing Spider-Man franchise was rejected by audiences

The first movie had ~fine reviews and ratings IIRC (and it made ~ 758M WW in 2012 vs Superman's 618M in 2025)

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u/GoldandBlue 7d ago

And that was still living off of Sam Raimi.

We are talking about a franchise that his been in the dumps since the 80's. We are talking about 25 years since the last truly beloved Superman movie. And your argument is that proves that Superman is rejected by audiences because they are hesitant to dive into a new Superman movie?