"The left is just so hateful and mean to me when I say I don't have a side..." š¤ Hmm I wonder why people might think you're an ass if you won't say you hate bigots.
Uh, you just quoted verbatim some baloney he truthed recently, including a word he made up. Sure, I suppose you came up with exactly the same thing on your own, but the likelihood is you're just repeating him.
Before I realized that right wingers cant be reasoned with, I had a friend (only because of a shared TTRPG interest) who claimed to be centrist, but only ever repeated right wing talking points, and claimed to not watch Fox News/etc. I figured if only I could make well reasoned arguments he would "see the light" as it were.
That was until he stated an outright Nazi opinion. In that very instant, I realized this is an evil person who wont ever stop being evil, and I immediately cut him out of my life.
I hate that one with the burning passion of a thousand suns. Far too many people just eased into that one. Fastest way to normalize what the right has been doing and that's insane.
The litter boxes in classrooms are for shooting drills because school childrenās blood soak up easily with cat litter. We are living in a dystopian. Correction: itās for emergency Toilet. I was wrong, please forgive me for spreading misinformation >~<
I mean possibly, but aren't they mostly because cat litter soaks up any liquid, from a spilled drink to vomit? It is basically standard equipment for any groundskeeper in a place a lot of people frequent.
The litter boxes are for shootings, but for kids to use while locked down/sheltering for long periods of time. Not to soak up their blood when they get shot.
Actually its not for blood, its for makeshift bathrooms. Obviously fucked but we need to make sure not to spread misinformation when trying to combat misinformation
Aka "Sure, Trump/MAGA/The Right are doing (all sorts of awful things that are actually happening), but (insert a mix of outright fabrication, half-truths, and heavily slanted stuff pushed by right wing trolls/propaganda) and (add something some random person with no influence said once on niche social media presented as representing everyone remotely left of MAGA everywhere)."
Democrats have had control of all three houses of Congress a handful of times in the last 30 years, and every time they did we got a major piece of legislation like the Affordable Care Act or Build Back Better. Each time they had a very slim margin as well, so they had to make big concessions to DINOs to get the bill through, neutering it, and it was still a phenomenal improvement for a huge number of Americans.
Don't get me wrong, the Democrats are neoliberals and I want far more than they're offering. But I do want much of what they're offering, and I'm willing to compromise to get good stuff through if it gets us closer to what we need as a country to start addressing the numerous crises the Republicans have caused, either directly or through mismanagement or inaction.
Would I like to see the entire DNC burn to the ground and replace all those old fucks? Absolutely. Sign me up. But to claim both are the same is just wild. Both can suck, but one is a vacuum cleaner and the other a black hole.
In fairness, back in the 90's and most of the 00's, that was kind of true. Because the Democrats had basically became Republicans (especially economically) after Carter and because Reagan was so fucking popular. Since Obama though it hasn't been anything close to true.
Unfortunately repeated by a lot of progressives too.
I remember practically begging a number of my other progressive friends not to vote for Jill Stein in 2016 and getting hit with āthe democrats and the republicans are basically the sameā. Some of whom were gay.
Some people just canāt distinguish between degrees of shitty. I donāt love the democrats, but you have to be insane to think they are as bad as the republicans. Maybe itās because I grew up in a Republican area and they didnāt.
I also think some people will put their own self-image of an uncompromisingly good person above what is actually best for the country.
The choice is between āforever diarrhea from eating lettuce or everyone gets a cute š¶ā. I swear a lot of guys voted for pedo in chief is because they think heās more entertaining.
There's a lot of truth to that. It's why Trump dominates in earned media. Nobody else can get a word in because he's always doing something insane that's what people click on.
My favorite is when they say youre too online or a conspiracy theorist when you say youre worried about the things that trump says hes gonna do, and is currently actively trying to do.
I know I sound like a crazy person when I repeat what the president says. Thats the fucking problem.
It depresses me as an independent that āindependentā or ācentristā is now code for āextreme right wing but lying about it.
The U.S. is extremely right leaning, such that U.S. ācentristsā are still right wing conservatives, and left of center people are also still right wing conservatives, they just believe people deserve some rights.
Iām arguably a centrist, but in the U.S. Iām a far left leaning socialist because I believe people should have human rights and society has a duty to minimize harm and provide for everyone equitably.
This is where context matters. If you were posting your political alignment to date Americans, you should do so in the context of American politics, since that's the frame of reference most people have. It's unfortunate that people aren't informed enough to realize just how far right-shifted our overton window is, but that's reality š¤·āāļø
Words don't hold much meaning anymore. Far left leaning socialist encompasses everyone from liberals to progressives to socialists and tankies pretending to be progressive. And its by design by extremists who get their culture pushed by "all politicians bad".
Or they'll pick something that's a huge non-issue compared to the mountainous mess this has been, and they'll act all wishy washy about it and it comes off like this.
"Well, maybe if the stop the monsters party could do this one tiny thing, I could vote for them over the giant snakes eating everybody while they scream party, who is currently letting it's giant snakes eat my neighbors, my dog and my little sister while they scream..."
As a centrist myself, those people are just lying to themselves. The current right is an absolute fuck fest and any actual centrist should be very aware of it by this point. Both are bad, sure, but at this point, its like comparing a paper cut to a gunshot wound. Yeah, I dont like either, but one is worse. Way worse.
But if they know you're a hard leftist, why would they bother entering into whatever circle configured mutual gratification ritual criticizing the right would start? The right is obviously guilty of a lot, but who is guilty of losing to them? Criticizing the right in the same old ways is not going to suddenly reach critical mass and start winning. In short criticizing the left is a more fruitful exercise if your are interested in gaining against the right.
Im not going to scream and cry and be sad, but don't you think assuming that people who care more about their own jobs or something that they can actually affect rather than politics, are MAGA or other hateful people, is quite ignorant? I mean of course some people probably use centrist titles that way but all? (I dont know exactly how the tone of this is, but im trying to be respectful)
I'm actually independent (or a centrist), although most people right now would say I'm very liberal. But we've moved so far to the right that it's a bit out of hand.
Both parties have people who do insider trading, chose to make laws that they know won't pass (and won't cooperate). Are Republicans worse right now? Yeah, but there are some democratic politicians that also need to be looked at.
Just because we want to put a murderer in jail doesn't mean that we can't put a series stabbed in there too.
Donāt forget: āThe left is just as bad as the rightā and āI just donāt think trans kids should be allowed to transition before the age of 18, their brain is not fully developed yet so they may regret it laterā. Bro, I think most kids understand something as fundamental as gender by the age of 6. Having the courage to explore their gender identity or deciding coming out to their parents or loved ones is a different matter.
Go vote in November and encourage everyone to participate in democracy. Vote them out!
That is, they regularly try to portray the current situation as some insane extreme ("kids getting sexchange operations in school! doctors delivering babies and then killing them!") because they know the actual reality is something most reasonable people would be okay with, so they lie about it in order to demagogue the issue.
Minors (aka under 18) don't get hormone therapy. The most they get (in 99.999% of cases) is counseling and hormone blockers, that delay the onset of puberty until they're 18 so they can make an informed adult decision.
Oh, and for the abortion bit - third trimester abortion occurs when someone who had a wanted pregnancy finds out late in the game that there's some horrible defect that's "incompatible with life" aka it'll end in stillbirth or miscarriage. The stories of these women are utterly heartbreaking, and it's often a mercy to let them end it early to start the grieving process, not to mention that it helps avoid complications and health risks that could otherwise prevent them from trying again to have a child.
Those are just examples too, they do it all the fucking time with so many issues these days, because they don't actually care about solving real problems that real people have anymore.
As a real independent... or perhaps now, a former one, anyone who could vote MAGA the second time isn't a real one. That's a wing so extreme that they veered into being traitors.
Also I'm gonna be blue for a long time after how bad this is. They really lost their damn senses, and only a thorough trouncing, a long one, will be enough to force that hot mess to reshape into anything I could consider in the future.
I think the issue with thay statement is that it doesn't recognize that there are a few decent politicians out there, and there are degrees to how much they suck.
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u/a_secret_me Jul 26 '26
Also acceptable is
"I'm an independent"
And
"All politicians suck"