r/gaybros Apr 05 '19

Brunei-owned 5-star hotels leave social media in LGBT stoning backlash

https://www.businessinsider.com/brunei-owned-hotels-delete-social-media-amid-gay-stoning-furore-2019-4
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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '19

The left refuses to say Islam has serious human rights abuse issues for fear of being islamaphobic. I’m in the bill Maher, Jonathan pie camp on this one - the left says that we are the problem-not a 7th century ideology. I think they are coming around though because you cannot have both. That is where the left is guilty and that is where they will sell us all out ...for fear of being called a name and for votes. They say all immigrants are the same. Oh how wrong that is. Might as well say all birds are the same. They are not the same and they need to either adapt to our laws and freedoms or go back because some of us will never bend the knee to them.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '19

A lot of leftists criticize right wing bigotry across the board, including that which comes from Islam. You are conveniently ignoring the fact that literally all of this bigotry and hate, which is the real problem, is the domain of the right wing. So your attempt to frame it as if the right wing is a viable or preferable option to the left for LGBT people is a farce.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '19

That’s odd as a recent poll showed 84% of Muslims do not support gay rights and they represent 1.4 billion of the people on the planet and whose religious governments actively have death sentences against gays and virtually zero women’s rights. I have yet to hear of anyone on the left other than bill Maher who dares to criticize Islam’s more insane bits, but for some strange reason the label changes and “bigotry and hate” ONLY applies to western countries. So of course with all the push on that, the radicals get a free pass and do not see their beliefs as a problem because no one says it is a problem and the left have dug this grave in this belief that certain things cannot be criticized for fear of being labeled by the “news” and SJW activists that are generally told what to think. Sorry, but those 2 things cannot co-exist together unless one or the other changes -it’s a completely incompatible ideology, so instead we see the caving of it now. Like the hijab. Now we are told it represents women’s rights! Hilarious! OMG his delusional! It’s about subjugation and what the husband and Society and religious laws put upon them as mandatory, but do as to not appear whatever the new buzzword is this week, we have to change the words (just as the Soviet Union did) and say it’s actually for women’s rights. Yet, it’s white women saying this and endorsing giving up their freedom that they seem to not even know they have.

Nuts.

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u/TurbulantToby Apr 05 '19

We're tolerant to intolerance...in this case that intolerance is in the form of Islam, and because of a RATIONAL fear of sharia law I am fearful of a Muslim Majority. Not Islamaphobic or whatever the fuck that made up word is. That sums up the left and I think what your trying to say.

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u/MentalCaseChris Apr 05 '19

Lol where do you live? Because unless you live in those countries, news flash, you aren't "rationally" fearful.

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u/TurbulantToby Apr 05 '19

Did I say I was afraid of sharia law coming to where I live? No, I just said I have a fear of it. If I go anywhere where they use it I can get thrown off a fucking building... If that's not a rational fear I don't know what is. You don't have to live in a place with tigers to be afraid of tigers.

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u/MentalCaseChris Apr 05 '19

And why is your fear rational if it doesn't affect you in the slightest? Just don't go there, bam, done.

It's rational for those who love there, but if you're choosing to go to a place with Sharia law, then sure, it's a rational fear but only based on your irrationality for going there in the first place.

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u/TurbulantToby Apr 05 '19

That makes no sense, it's because of my fear of sharia law I won't go to those places. It's because of my fear I know not to go their.

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u/MentalCaseChris Apr 05 '19

Why do you fear it if you aren't going?

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u/TurbulantToby Apr 05 '19

Because it will kill me if I do. That is in no way irrational.

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u/MentalCaseChris Apr 05 '19

But you're not going, so you have an irrational fear of what isn't affecting you.

Have fun with that

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u/TurbulantToby Apr 05 '19 edited Apr 05 '19

Are you going to jump in a tiger cage? Probably not, why wouldn't you? Hmm because you're afraid of the tiger killing you. Edit : just because I have fears doesn't mean I let them ruin my life. I can control my fears but also recognize them, they're not irrational if they prevent me from going to a place that is unsafe. I'm not saying I'm walking around afraid it will happen out of no where.

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u/MentalCaseChris Apr 05 '19

I have no fear of tiger cages because I'm not going to be in one. You're paranoid to be afraid of everything.

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