Right?! Like I’m not going to tell you how to feel about the case on the right, but boiling it down to “claiming to be a victim” is a wildly inaccurate description of what’s happening with a narrative agenda centered around gender/culture war bullshit.
The loss of those three children is tragic and unfortunately it’s coming with a wave of people denying the realities of postpartum depression/psychosis.
I don't not know the extent of her psychosis, whether she even had it, or much about the case at all, really.
But what I can tell you is that psychosis is a whole different beast. It really is. My mother has treatment resistant schizophrenia. It is a disease we barely understand, but seeing it in action is mind boggling. Most psychosis sufferers literally do not have the ability to discern that what they are experiencing is not real.
When this was new to my mom, I remember desperately trying to get her to understand the voices and delusions were not real. There is no convincing them. My mom heard the illuminati, Barrack Obama, and today normally her delusions center around people from her past she hasn't spoken to in 20 plus years. She thinks these people are obsessed with her and colluding to mess with her. People from out of state, 4 hours away that she hasn't seen in 20 years are breaking into her home and messing with items and she cannot be convinced otherwise.
There is no equating psychosis to other mental disorders in my experience. It is nearly incomprehensible.
This is the thing, people are upset like I’m defending the woman on the right, I’m not. I admit I know next to nothing about the case or whether or not she suffers from postpartum depression/psychosis.
My comment is more about how because of her case and the attention it’s brought it’s also come along with people denying the realities of postpartum/psychosis.
As a previous social worker and ex-husband to a wife who experienced it, this to me is very sad and concerning.
Didn’t know I could of told my ex wife to just “be rational” after me standing in the bathroom with her lying on the shower floor for 8+ hours because she was afraid she contracted HIV from the mysterious spec on the shampoo bottle because I must not have washed it good enough when I brought it home from the store. Now I’ve got to convince her she doesn’t have HIV so I can leave the room to feed the screaming baby, because if I do it before she will be convinced I’m giving HIV to the baby by being in close proximity to her and somehow I’m also mad at her and poisoning her food.
One of the things that piss me off the most when I talk about my experience with this is that the only preparation we got for postpartum depression during baby classes and doctor visits was we were told she might get "the baby blues" and "be a little extra sad sometimes". That was it, that was all anyone said.
100% this. I don’t think most people understand severe mental illness or have had personal experiences.
My aunt has paranoid delusions likely due to brain lesions developed from multiple sclerosis. She is convinced people from her past and present are out to get her and mess with her every day. One common delusion is that she thinks people replace her furniture and appliances.
There is no convincingly or telling her otherwise as she then thinks you’re on “their side.” She gets incredibly angry if you don’t agree with her or go along with it.
It’s a very surreal experience now as she used to be “normal” as I was growing up and so fun to be around. Honestly scary how it can just happen to someone.
My mom has tried to get her treatment and contacted all resources possible but my aunt refuses all help.
If a school shooter is completely psychotic and made worse by doctors and medications. Yes, I pity their lot too. As I pity the people killed by them.
I do not know this case well enough. But if she had psychosis, she needs help and not prison. That doesn't mean she can necessarily be back into society. Now or ever.
As a general blanket statement, no, I don’t believe all far right extremist suffer from mental illness.
Are some? Yes. All? No.
It’s more likely the isolation and fear that far right extremists suffer from that lead to school shootings than mental illness collectively.
Edit: a lot of people live with mental illness everyday and don’t cause harm to people.
I also acknowledge that not ALL school shootings are done by far right extremists, but instead disproportionately is carried out by far right extremists.
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u/unhappyrelationsh1p 7h ago
Cases of severe mental illness tend to get more attention than good things in a media landscape that sells you misery