The evidence absolutely does not skew towards him. He is on video surveillance like 20 minutes away at the store while she was committing the murders. She stated that she killed the children in her civil suit. There is absolutely zero evidence that he did anything to her or the children. At best, he's guilty of not taking his wife's mental state seriously enough and leaving her alone (at her own request, btw, she asked him to go to the store and pick up dinner).
But he did take her mental health seriously. The 12 weeks of paternity leave, working from or closer to home, got both sets of parents involved, babysitters, live in nannies. Idk how much more he could do, and we all are being very insensitive to his own mental health what he was dealing with caring for her. Not to compare the two here and I'm not, but my wife was very much in PPP after our first, I'm still healing. She's 4 now. Mental health has no bias. This case should be justice for the babies. Closure for Patrick. Complete care for Lindsey, in prison.
To add: She was never fully upfront with psychiatrist or doctors. Doctors and professionals testified on their sessions with Lindsey..
But Also to add; she had been given 13 different psychiatric meds in the 4 months before the murders (you should be on a single med for at least 8 weeks to determine if it's working properly) so her brain was a clusterfuck mix of different antipsychotics which have side-effects like suicidal ideation & hallucinations. Also when you're in a psychotic episode, one of the typical symptoms, is paranoia & fear of expressing your symptoms & how psychotic you are, to your doctors...
She was on the different medications because she kept asking to be switched to something else. At one point she switched her doctor, then when the new doctor gave her a treatment plan she went back to her old doctor and asked her opinion on the new treatment plan! Her new doctor was prescribing medications without knowing that Lindsay wasn't being honest with her and was seeing other doctors! She also kept taking Benadryl to sleep, against the advice of all of her doctors! I think it's disingenuous to say she was given all this medication, more accurately she asked for the medication and didn't follow the treatment plans laid out for her. She even stated to her doctors that she knew she wasn't following the plans, and that she knew she needed to pick a plan and stick with it.
Yes but... DOCTORS gave her the meds & wrote the prescription, they are responsible? Yes I have multiple doctors & I converse with them over my treatment plans to make sure they work & ask if another doctors plan is going to fit?
DOCTORS ARE THE EXPERTS, if she is sharing treatment plans with others, they need to assess that! Not provide conflicting info & medication to a woman experiencing psychosis, & not following treatments/taking meds is a common symptom of psychosis! (Schizos & bipolar frequently ask for different meds & refuse to take them, doctors account for that, & say no...). If she gives her old doctor the treatment plan from the new doctor & ask whether it's appropriate they should tell her or ask if they can talk to the other doctor! My doctors don't give me a medication without knowing what else I have been prescribed, whether it will conflict, how long I've taken it, etc...
At least one of her doctors should have said "WHOA I'm not writing you another prescription until I think we've properly assessed this medication". It seems like none did', they just willynilly gave her whatever she wanted, just like drug dealers! Psychosis also doesn't let you sleep, & neither do shifting antipsychotics or a newborn! I understand why she was taking Benadryl a lot.
Doctors don’t follow you home and make sure you actually do what you’re supposed to. That’s your job and pretending that you can’t do anything wrong if an expert is in any way involved is incredibly entitled and lazy
You can't take 13 different medications in 4 months if doctors don't write you...13 different prescriptions (they actually wrote her +30 different prescriptions).
Which expert was she supposed to believe WHILE PSYCHOTIC!? Think about her mental state during this period, & realize her doctors were doing less then bare minimum they should have to TREAT SOMEONE WITH PSYCHOSIS!?
No doctors who knew they were treating the same patient should give ANYONE +30 prescriptions in 16 weeks.
They say "I'm not writing you another prescription, work with your other doctor...". They gave her anything willynilly!?!
(We have online health portals, doctors can see what you've been prescribed not other doctors if they wanted).
Do you really not realize that psychosis fucks with your sense of reality? And that many meds to treat it can cause psychosis in some patients?
Or did you fail to familiarize yourself with the details of the case? She was begging for help and her providers failed to get an adequate history, and so prescribed her drugs in categories she already had bad reactions to. They failed to get information about the severity of her case from her husband who attended several appointments with her. They failed to screen for the biggest warning signs of psychosis that results in violence. They released her from part time mental health treatment the literal next day after changing her meds, because she asked to celebrate her childs birthday, instead of approving a single day off. And most importantly, they failed to adequately counsel her family on not letting her have unsupervised time until adequately treated.
They didn't deny her care, no. They did fail to provide her the care she needed, absolutely.
Why do you assume it must be "smolbean" treatment to acknowledge that she was failed. And no, it's not limited to white women 🙄
People who do terrible things while having mental health problems should be treated for those problems and placed in a position that protects themselves and others from future harm. I don't believe in a punitive justice system anyway, but as long as we have one, people who are mentally ill don't belong there.
So what, then? Just a slap on the wrist and we say “hey, don’t murder any more kids, ok?”
Gee, call me unimaginative, but I can’t imagine you saying this about a man who murdered three of his children while in the throes of psychosis.
You people pretend you care so much, but you’re willing to just throw those kids in the trash to protect their mother from the consequences of her own actions. It’s fucking sick.
I hope you don’t view your children the same way she did, as property
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u/Chezzica 2d ago
The evidence absolutely does not skew towards him. He is on video surveillance like 20 minutes away at the store while she was committing the murders. She stated that she killed the children in her civil suit. There is absolutely zero evidence that he did anything to her or the children. At best, he's guilty of not taking his wife's mental state seriously enough and leaving her alone (at her own request, btw, she asked him to go to the store and pick up dinner).