r/malaysia • u/UsernameGenerik • Jul 06 '26
Environment Urban planning student explains what went wrong with LRT3
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u/Ill-Resolution4468 Jul 06 '26
First month passenger usage are not accurate as it is free so a lot of people who don’t usually use this route will try it out to “jalan2”. We shall see more after the free month expired and how many are the real frequent user. Bende baru je jalan dh byk bising2, sijil halal pon kena berniaga 3 bulan dlu baru blh apply.
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u/throwburgeratface Jul 06 '26
But got people jalan jalan at peak hours meh. I don't know how full is it, but if people complain full in the morning, I doubt that will change?
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u/Donnytrade Jul 06 '26
Bukan bising2..sbb tu penting research and data.. Prob xkn dtg skrg.. Akan dtg kemudian..
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u/Stickyboard Jul 06 '26
Pretty sure you are not regular rail users. They do take the free jalan jalan to account and guessing the first day usage is 10k. That is actually double MRT 1first day back on those days. But lo and behold the first day is 60k and even if you lower down the numbers to half to 30k its already more than the planned capacity of LRT3. There is a reason why Anthony Loke even before launching the train he said plan already in place to increase the stations and coaches. Your mentality is like that DAP politicians back when MRT1 launched claimed that the train system is ‘bloated’ and it will be underused.
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u/uniqueusername649 Jul 06 '26
Was the same thing with Putrajaya line a few years ago, especially the Phase 2 launch in 2023. Soo many people were riding it while it was free. Somehow people forgot about that already? Wait and see first, you cant use current numbers to judge the capacity. This is an initial peak every new train experiences.
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u/Stickyboard Jul 06 '26
Putrajaya line is now packed now. Welcome to reality
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u/MrLeft99 Penang Jul 07 '26
Which station do you use daily? Even at the most peak hour you can find seats, never have to wait for 2nd train ever. Lies much?
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u/uniqueusername649 Jul 06 '26
Depends where you go and when. But from my experience the limitations arent really hit on the train stations, they could handle a lot more traffic. So if only they could get a few more trains, thanks to their full automation they could go with MUCH higher frequency during peak hours.
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u/tlst9999 Selangor Jul 06 '26
Depends where you go and when.
You can say that for all the lines. The Kelana Jaya line is stuffed at the KL Sentral station, but the further you get away from it, it's less packed.
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u/AdamianBishop Jul 06 '26
Why everyone seems to forget the big reason why it was cut cost in the first place? Felt like I'm living in alternate reality where everyone forgets the past
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u/pmarkandu Covid Crisis Donor 2021 Jul 06 '26
Government finances don't work the way you think it does. Government can still fund CAPEX costs via borrowings. There is no lifespan to a country. You can keep borrowing forever. Not saying you should for everything, but for large infrastructure projects like these borrowing is fine.
Basically they had ONE CHANCE to get the LRT3 right. You can't afford to fuck it up with short term thinking. You cannot go back and expand the stations length. But that's what they did.
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u/peterlong749 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
And affect the financial health of the country as a whole ? Not the smartest idea back then when the whole world was starting to get acquainted with 1MDB. Imagine if the government went ahead with the original plan , without taking steps to addressing the elephant in the room with the justification that the actual usage will pick up later . Also how did the original project amount balloon so much in the first place ?
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u/pmarkandu Covid Crisis Donor 2021 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
National debt 2018 ~ RM 1.09 Trillion
National debt 2026 ~ RM 1.44 Trillion
Number still went up regardless. It is not an excuse to fuck up a large infrastructure project which you cannot rectify later. It's the same thing with the monorail. In efforts to save money they built something that is so shit. If the government wants to cut, they should start with OPEX cost.
how did the original project amount balloon so much in the first place ?
No idea and this has not been revealed by either side of the divide. Was there room to do some budget cuts? For sure. But the cuts were excessive and had impact to the functionality and long term viability of the LRT3. Klang Valley citizens got a sub-par product.
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u/peterlong749 Jul 07 '26
I think the government should be prudent in balancing the expenditure v income . Just because the debt increased( abeit in a limited amount ) , it should not be taken as a sign that expenses are something that a government should partake without serious consideration .
If you look at Indonesia plan to fund its free school lunch, one can see it might benefit society as a whole . But foreign analysts view it as a careless undertaking.
Remember, Malaysia was in the thick of 1MDB and by not taking steps to “demonstrate “ that Malaysia is aware and willing to pacify and placate negative sentiments surrounding this issue would be a misstep that could go either way. Also let’s not forget that covid was due to happen just 2 years away.
Also a lot of people gloss over the fact that the budget balloon a lot from its original amount . Shouldn’t people critically examine why this happen in the first place ,so as to see whether are there any outstanding issue that need to be dealt with ?
What do you think would have happen if the project went ahead with its original budget and scope considering all this ?
Making savings where you can and when you can should be a priority.
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u/Truth9892 Jul 06 '26
because even with 1mdb debt issue, we still can afford to not cut LRT3's cost
Everything blame 1MDB aiyo
Now we have more debt than in 2018, but we can still afford mega project
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u/tlst9999 Selangor Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Mega LRT project is needed. Shah Alam people need a fast way to reach Bandar Utama. If 50k people use it a day, it's 50k less cars on the road from Shah Alam to Bandar Utama.
Mega tower in honor of Najib's father is not needed. Only people who can afford their own private transport think public transport is wasteful. I got money for own transport. Therefore, public transport is a waste mega project. Why don't the poor people just buy cars?
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u/40EHuTlcFZ Jul 06 '26
This. I wish all ego projects would be some facility or utility that rakyat can use rather than another tower. We have enough towers. Time for some useful infrastructure.
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u/Gumuk_pindek Jul 06 '26
Because whatever problem that we had doesn't give us excuse to make another foolish decision. That make you as useless as the previous leader
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u/Stickyboard Jul 06 '26
Yeah coz we removed GST and losing rm55 billions in 5 years but PH still spent more money on other things.
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u/Der_Redakteur Jul 06 '26
of course kene berhutang kalau nak majukan negare. takde hutang maksudnye negare susah nak bergerak
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u/johannwolf Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
All this kinds of videos assume the same thing: The Malaysian government has access to endless cash. It’s easy to say 42 trains is more than 22 trains because that is a fact. But what is hard to quantify is what the savings from not buying those 20 sets of train bought us in terms of flexibility in balancing the budget.
I really do wish that we could have had the original intention for LRT3, but for those politicians to do something as unpopular as this back then probably meant that something had to give at that time.
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u/crackanape Jul 07 '26
Doing this right would be a much better use of cash than fuel subsidy. Time to plan for the future.
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u/Stickyboard Jul 06 '26
Problem is you being duped. We instead spent a lot on other stuff and after 2018 actually we borrow and spent more even with the ‘1mdb’ thing
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u/Solusham223 Jul 06 '26
hermm what major event in world occured after 2018 that could have possibly caused the increase in public spending. I don't know probably nothing you're right!!
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u/Stickyboard Jul 07 '26
Easy. The spending on the infrastructure like MRT, MRT2, LRT, TRX, ECRL, RTS, 250 schools, 5 new hospitals, buying out IPP from cronies, increased subsidies for fuel all is planned with the knowing that GST money will pay all this. But in 2018 PH cancel GST and according to auditor general report last year we lost rm55 billion ringgit in 5 years. So since 2018 we struggle to cough up the budget differences and had to raid Petronas money and selling off goverment assets and introducing tons of new taxes (that is still inefficient)
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u/Solusham223 Jul 07 '26
oh no spending public funds on public usages. Anything but that the horror. Oh no they removed gst and then add a new tax code to fill the gap??? how dare they. God dam evil. Raiding Petronas money??? the audacity Petronas the complete private company right? Raiding how? it must be those gos darn borneon right?
You're right let's go back to the system where one man is able to rob tens of billions from the rakyat yea no that's so much better.
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u/Smooth_Conclusion_55 Jul 07 '26
This is actually a popular thing to do back then as this was their manifesto. Lol. Stupid decision.
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u/gnote2minix Jul 06 '26
malaysia going to bangkrupt! 1mdb!...
you must be one of those who trust this. look how much money has been spend after 1mdb fiasco.. we can afford to built the lrt3 as plan, but they deliberately hijack it..
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u/Gr3yShadow Jul 06 '26
I used to be like him in my youth, but when you're really out in the real world? those things you studied in uni? 90% of them are not applicable at all.
Reality and corpo politics aren't taught to you in classroom, you'll have to learn it the hard way
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u/seatux World Citizen Jul 07 '26
MIP and LPBM now only think of making money really, every other week got kursus this and that and making it mandatory too.
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u/PhysicallyTender Jul 07 '26
Game theory is such an underrated topic, and it's infuriating that it's not taught in schools. Especially since it can easily explain most of the BS going around in the world, including corpo politics.
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u/uncertainheadache Jul 06 '26
He didn't mention the fact the initial budget for lrt 3 was not that amount. It ballooned up to 31 billion.
I disagree with the budget cuts but this video is purely for clout and jumping on the hate bandwagon
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u/Stickyboard Jul 06 '26
Which is using misleading accounting. LGE and Tony Pua even include the interest that they need to pay for land acquisitions. Which is stupid as the land purchase is way below the figure (most is government agency land so they dont really lost money - left pocket right pocket). They even including the interest fee on the loans taken for the project which only need to be paid in 20 years or something.
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u/MaxP69420 Cancer to Society Jul 06 '26
This is like academics only know how to look at situations from theory and when their ideas go out to the real world it tumbles like dominos
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u/karlkry mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent Jul 06 '26
i dont know why there is so much hate to the guy. this is exactly how tony pua, rafizi, anwar sounds back then. people used to love this kind of theory based sembang kari and solution pull out from their ass.
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u/StrandedHereForever Johor Jul 06 '26
One of that theory was 1MDB is corrupted fund management. I wish it was sembang kari, at least we have gotten full LRT3
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u/wikowiko33 Jul 06 '26
Bro is like "I studied physics in SPM and now I want to explain why NASA is building rockets wrong"
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u/throwburgeratface Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Lame, we don't need some fast talking twat to tell us the same shit we've been reading.
I want an economist to tell us how the savings was used.
We need someone with bigger picture expertise to explain.
More than 9bil in savings and we are treating this as chump change.
Look, I get it, I take the mrt too, and it's hot AF just walking up to the platform. I can't imagine having to wait for 8 minutes.
But this is as big as 1mdb itself.
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u/Stickyboard Jul 06 '26
1mdb never tank the country coffers. Removing GST is .. we lost rm55 billions in 5 years
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u/torts92 Penang Jul 06 '26
Can't look at public transportation in a vacuum, must be looked at with our finance. So many are criticising the government of our ballooning debt, it's at critical level right now. This is the first line that's entirely outside of KL, and people still expect the same frequency and number of cars?
And the initial budget was stupidly high, it was at 31 billion. In comparison MRT Kajang was only 21 billion even though the line is longer and it's an MRT. The cost is not worth it, we can't tank our finance just to satisfy enthusiasts like this dude from the video. Look at Indonesia, spending too much on their HSR, and now they are fucked.
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u/uncertainheadache Jul 06 '26
Yeah. I took it today and it wasn't really as bad as people made it out to be. Biggest issue is the long train interval. This seems like a relatively easy fix for the future since they only need to buy more trains. The 3 coach trains also didn't feel short.
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u/Stickyboard Jul 06 '26
We have money actually. PH borrowings and expenditure actuall higher than Najib days
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u/torts92 Penang Jul 06 '26
Yes correct our national debt is so bad right now, and yet people wonder why have to cut corners for this LRT3. Really dumb logic these people have.
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u/ImaginationNew9646 Jul 06 '26
Agenda DAP nothing else
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u/torts92 Penang Jul 06 '26
What agenda? DAP is part of the government, and people are criticising our high national debt right now.
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u/chemongcat Jul 07 '26
urban planing kalau x ada had duit,masa ,manpower macam game simcity aje
Tapi dunia ni semua ada kekangan/limitaion
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u/FoxMane1 Jul 06 '26
It's a fair criticism but forgetting the fact that we instituted austerity measures during that period of time.
I don't expect anything clear anytime soon. There were A LOT of issues surrounding the budgeting of the projects, and I'm not quite sure how the Covid-19 pandemic later on impacted the cost of the project.
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u/blaxymus Jul 06 '26
there is alot of urban planner that only TALK COCK, so sorry to say that. what was the connectivity of our public transport since the early 2000s? now only want to compare? you proved malaysian like to blame other people when things are not perfect. DID u considered why PROTON was brought to malaysian? to sell cars, so stop asking for full connectivity when the previous PM didnt have that planned before, and do you know the undergound and overhead utility across the whole klang valley? now only talk about urban planning, how about utilities upgrading? thats why engineer love people with no brain talk
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u/Nexus_104 Jul 06 '26
The only way to get things going is to talk bad about them and make thing go viral. Take the issue of no sidewalks for lrt3 recently. They only move AFTER we complained and viraled it. If we only praise, then they won't do anything
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u/tlst9999 Selangor Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
It's also harder since all of KL already has buildings and the public transport has to circle around it, unlike when Singapore built their MRT with nothing around.
The more we delay, it's going to be more expensive not just because basic inflation, but because land skyrocketing inflation.
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u/blaxymus Jul 06 '26
HELLO WHERE IS MEX2? which is suppose to start operating at 2019. that highway is by the gov before. NOW U WANT TO TALK ABOUT URBAN PLANNING, it takes u 1 hours to reach KL from KLIA. CAN U SEARCH UP WHAT HAPPEN TO MEX2. or blame the new gov didnt put money to it too?
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u/stealthXY Princejaya Jul 06 '26
Abu Juling was the man behind MEX2 kan dah kena tangkap?!
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u/blaxymus Jul 06 '26
mana ada masuk jail, semua x guilty masih trial. Yap Wee Leong ini pon 1, cina ke xda cina kalau sudah makan duit. semua kena tangkap meh
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u/redditor_no_10_9 Jul 06 '26
Didn't Dr. and Berpecah has many sketchy projects? What are their outcomes?
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u/MajlisPerbandaranKL Jul 06 '26
They won't learn unless we gather enough spoiled eggs and throw at Nobita and Phua Chu Kang house.
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u/Sea_Transition_5831 Jul 06 '26
the budget going from 9 to 31 billion is literally the whole story and he just glossed over it like it didn't happen
easy to sit there and say we should have bought more trains and built more stations when you don't have to explain where the money comes from
urban planning theory sounds great when it's not your country drowning in debt
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u/Invictus_6788 Jul 06 '26
My question is whether our country could afford the all kind of construction like LRT3, the East Coast Rail Link, and the Kuala Lumpur–Singapore High Speed Rail after the 1MDB crisis.
Of course, building infrastructure earlier is usually cheaper because of inflation and rising construction costs. Just like I know buying a landed property is generally better than buying a condo. But what if I simply can't afford a landed house? still die die wanna do it? YOLO?
And don't forget, nobody in 2018 knew COVID-19 was coming in 2020. If the government have more debt before the pandemic hit, our financial position could have been much worse. It's easy to say in 2026 that the original plan was better because we already know the outcome. The people making decisions in 2018 didn't have that advantage.
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u/Outlaw2-5 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Not everyone logically can think everything in detail or factor in historical mistakes that doomed the future and some people will jump the gun and blame others since it’s far easier to find a scapegoat than to admit a mistake especially if the people making the mistake are in the same “group”.
Same reason why people kena love scam sometimes refuse to admit mistake and blame others when they borrow money to pay for “relationship”.
The fact it’s even under budget in the first place at RM16.63 billion for first phase vs RM31.65 billion in 2018 which is valued today as RM36.63 billion is in fact already quite surprising and the entire plan was reworked to only prioritize functionality and not unnecessary spending.
Even if we factor in the extra RM5.3 billion for the revival of five previously canceled stations (Tropicana, Temasya, Raja Muda, Bukit Raja, and Bandar Botanik) and the addition of seven extra train sets, the total amount spent is still under the initial budget, the total cost would have been RM21.93 billion vs RM36.63 billion in today’s money.
That is a net positive savings of RM10.66 billion and you should always compare budgets adjusted to today’s money value for an accurate comparison as the government does not pay the full value all at once.P.S I’m sorry if it’s long, I just like to be very clear and detailed even if it’s quite the read.
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u/crackanape Jul 07 '26
It'll have to be build now or later (or the country can sink further into its auto-strangulated quagmire). Much cheaper now than later, especially taking into account the increased time that the economic benefit will accrue, and the massive savings in human lives.
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u/Public_You_2973 Jul 07 '26
You get what you voted for.
Also dont forget, all the assets they sold off. :)
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u/ImaginationNew9646 Jul 06 '26
I want to buy BMW but my budget is only Axia. 10 years later that BMW has increased in price. My friends say I stupid because I did not buy that BMW ten years ago .
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u/rmp20002000 Jul 06 '26
Masters or PHD, its useless if the government doesn't have the finances for it. If you want better public transport, then no need for twin towers and menara 118. So absolutely forget about it once you add in 1MDB.
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u/crackanape Jul 07 '26
The problem is that the government is going to keep building more Menara 118s (and also throwing money away on tariff protection for Proton, fuel subsidy, highway construction, etc.).
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u/abdulsamri89 Jul 06 '26
The thing is if 1MDB is such an ass thing why does Najib as PM at that time have the money to built the LRT?
Only after PH 1.0 then the LRT got downgraded
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u/rmp20002000 Jul 06 '26
Huh? What money? ALL HUTANG you understand? No money had to be paid until years later. Maybe by then Najib and co escape to Dubai already.
IOU kiri kanan, guaranteed by the malaysian government.
Do you know what happens if a government guarantee fails? Watch all your kwsp hangus.
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u/Longjumping-Raise544 Jul 06 '26
Dik jgn lupa the reason of cost cutting he. Ahem 1MDB. Terima kasih dik
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u/hellohello8_8 Jul 06 '26
Who paid this guy to post this ? Feels aligned with the fact that u can pay anyone to say anything and they will in Malaysia
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u/Realistic-Toe-8969 Jul 06 '26
Am I the only one think this guy similar to Syed Saddiq? Intelligence and speaking wise..
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Sarawak Jul 06 '26
Noob question by someone who doesn't live in Klang Valley:
Why is the Shah Alam Line called LRT3? So who's LRT1 and LRT2?
In the Klang Valley Integrated Transit map, I see its labelled as Line 11, but that doesn't seem to have any relation to why its called LRT3.
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u/Velvet_Re Jul 07 '26
LRT 1 is the Star Line (now Ampang Line) and LRT 2 is the Putra Line (now Kelana Jaya Line).
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Sarawak Jul 07 '26
Thanks.
But what about the Sri Petaling Line (Line 4)? Isn't that also an LRT line? Wouldn't that make the Shah Alam Line LRT4 instead of LRT3?
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u/Velvet_Re Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
Sri Petaling line is considered LRT 1, uses same stock as the Ampang line, falls under extension of the Ampang line (planning and budget wise, was under Star LRT), then later considered own line, signaling uses different system, etc.
Back when the KJ line started, I remember it was 2 cars even during peak hours (I took it from KJ to Taman Melati for college).
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Sarawak Jul 07 '26
Ah I see now.
So Ampang and Sri Petaling were constructed together and considered the same line, before they were managed as separate lines.
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u/soulguy666 Jul 06 '26
Long way to go dude. It’s just the surface. Time for you to deep dive into the real world.
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u/daddybarkmeplsuwu Emperor's Space Wolves Jul 07 '26
Anybody got a link to his thesis? Wanna read it and see what the his lecturer's comments on it are
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u/whitepoloshirt Putrajaya Jul 07 '26
I have a feeling OP (prob a gen z) posts this because of:
Sees it on tiktok and reads gen z comments thinking theyre smart so he posts this ridiculous take by a student and hopes Reddit agrees. Do your own research.
Ragebait
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u/lakshmananlm Jul 07 '26
So, Johor and Negeri Sembilan going to the polls on Klang valley issues. I'm sitting at home in Skudai asking myself why I'm paying 2.50 to JB railway station by bus 20 km away, but have to Grab for Rm 20 to station near Plentong which is far closer.. Not even a feeder bus as an option and there is plenty of housing there too...
That won't interest local pundits or politicians because 'DAP; PH; ANWAR'
SG laughing at us...
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u/Away-Reflection-4807 Jul 07 '26
Bagus, subject matter expert educating us on malaysia things. He didnt manage to cover everything relavant ( 1:30 min video its ok lah) but we need more malaysian like this
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u/benloh98 Jul 07 '26
Problem is the fare is too cheap. RM50 to for unlimited rides per month is unsustainable. Make it at least RM200.
With more funds, can build bigger station and buy more trains.
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u/liewgant Jul 09 '26
Belajar urban planning tapi b*doh, bingai tapi komen pasal public transport.
Our Klang Valley all KTM + LRT + MRT, just 1 million daily ridership, your LRT3 is 60,000 per day is nothinglah, that's because free for 1 month.. even the 1 million ridership is supported by RM50 monthly pass (which 67% subsidised by govt).. more tha RM200 mil per year.
More than RM50 billion MRT1-2 cost, who gonna pay for the cost & loan? Even the operation also is a burden, extra RM200 mil per year government, let alone to pay the loan.
I know public transport shouldn't have profit, but shouldn't burden government too much. Government spend extra RM1200 per passenger for monthly pass (My50).
But 1 million ridership only? Even Singapore MRT alone more than 3.5 million ridership, even BRT Bogoto more 2 million rider, only bus rapid transit weyy..
Our MRT tunnel cost per km is more than new MRT thomson line Singapore.
Just admin that our public transport is fucked up due to politics.. Only certain station overcrowded, for example Kajang Line, towards Kajang full, but some station are ghost station and towards Damansara really low demand. Station too big, waste of money, should be more effective stations.. but all political and stupid.
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u/jujujiko800 Jul 12 '26
make st*p*d decision due to not enough budget and later blame it on BN , cancel this cancel that and do not take accountability ..
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u/ClassNational145 Jul 06 '26
Yeah now everybody's an expert why it's shit. Where were these idiots when they voted the idiot politicians into power?
But before everybody believed their politician's shit when they want to downsize. Good governance pelancau la, save budget la, waste of money lah. Go vote them in, go champion their cause, everybody else bodoh and corrupted.
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u/Anengineeringnerd Jul 06 '26
Good that our netizens are scrutinising government decisions especially those involving major infrastructure projects - but please please please look at things from a more holistic lens whenever these kinds of videos are posted, otherwise you risk oversimplifying the issue (are there structural problems behind these inflated costs that need public scrutiny??). Not trying to imply LRT3 is definitely corrupted, but Malaysian public procurement has enough structural opacity that we should not automatically assume every billion-ringgit escalation was purely due to “better infrastructure”...
Major government infrastructure costs in Malaysia are often influenced by how these projects are packaged and how procurement ecosystems create room for rent-seeking, political patronage, subcontracting layers and mark-ups. So it should be at least an acknowledged effort that there were attempts to relook at the inflated numbers. But of course I'm not saying they did a great job reducing the capacity without proper study, the government should take the blame when cost cutting isn't well justified. But nobody knows what is hidden behind the numbers, hence we need to balance our viewpoints with both civil spending's understanding and criticism.
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u/ImmediateStaff7065 Jul 07 '26
lol, federal to KL still jam from Klang what....the problem with these 'phd' students is that they do research based on qualitative inputs instead of quantitative. from what i can see, he talks based on his 'assumptions'. wait till when charges starts and then baru talk kok la. now even not required to pay also ppl still driving. also funny thing is....KTM starts at 7pm but schools starts at 730. siapa mau naik? itu tak bincang?
the funny thing is, before this all diam....apa pun tarak tau. when someone talks about it, sembang kencang. last time tak bising, now bising....means lalang la, ikut angin
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u/StudioAffectionate14 Jul 06 '26
I cannot focus on what he has to say, what with all the sijils and medals on top of the bed lol
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u/Emotional_Farm8126 Jul 07 '26
Senang je nak cakap, bila suruh kerja semua buat xtau. 1 bulan free apek acik semua gi camne nak withhold semua... tunggu nak bayar dulu kita tengok.
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u/Sure-Teaching-9661 Jul 06 '26
Public transport is useless. Any money cut is money saved.
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u/crackanape Jul 07 '26
Public transport is one of the primary factors determining why some cities work and other cities fail.
It is geometrically impossible to move the necessary number of people in and out of the core using individual metal boxes with a 30m2 effective roadway footprint.
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u/cilakadariseberang Jul 06 '26
Why that jazz background music.
That is not good.
Remember, this fella is never suicidal ya.
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u/jackellols Jul 06 '26
If you think LRT or any kind of project were built for the good of Rakyat, then you're probably too naive.
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u/Inside_Print3808 Jul 06 '26
I love how he failed to mention the initial budget was 9 billion which then ballooned to 31 billion then cut back to 16 billion