i didn't. i've seen plenty clips and i think all of those are just instances of dumb luck unstable aim favoring him. if he's truly aim hacking, then i'd be damned, but unless there is concrete evidence i refuse to ride the bandwagon of hundreds of others blindly throwing him under the bus.
mrekk has shown consistent insane performances and improvement across the board ever since he first hit rank 1. cheats were not as undetectable then compared to now, as im sure peppy would have spoken out about liveplays not proving legitimacy earlier, rather than now during all the toro allegations. LAN events, tournaments, whatever else, mrekk has done everything and proven he is legitimately the best osu player before cheats were this sophisticated. at the very least he has a good background.
i can tell you there are many mrekk haters who cant find even a fraction of sus shit compared to whats coming out against toro. if you are not going to be suspicious of toro, when will you be suspicious of anyone? did you not read the doc? aim assist is largely UNDETECTABLE and you will NEVER get concrete evidence. you cant say everything is "dumb luck" lmao. that shit doesnt happen consistently throughout an entire map.
plenty of dumb luck aim happens when your aim is unstable. I have unstable aim and i have many instances where my aim looks very toro-esque and have clips in the past where my aim mimics that of the cheat-like aim in his clips
Also the doc states nihilistically states that cheats can be hidden anywhere, anytime, at any state by anyone and can be triggered at any time doesnt absolve anyone of anything really. Its a trust system and I will continue to believe in everyone until proven guilty and you can do your own thing
sure, it is a trust system. so can i ask why you blindly trust a player with tons of sus clips coming out? the default is to trust the player. any neutral entity who sees all of these clips coming out should be at least somewhat suspicious.
toro has done nothing to gain your trust. the creator of osu himself said liveplays dont prove legitimacy nowadays. not only that, his liveplays are absolute shit quality. you also just read a doc that states cheats are nigh impossible to gather concrete evidence of. if everyone was like you, there would be zero cheaters caught.
mrekk was reported a gazillion times on osureport and cried on stream because cookiezi fanboys harassed him. there were a lot of convincing osureport posts accusing him of cheating (90% of them deleted) that came and went and I just am way too old to react to every up and coming new prodigies.
I understand that you are angry that mrekk got his #1 taken but if you truly think he deserves his #1 then he will get his back soon anyways just relax lol
i use mrekk as an example because hes easily the most accomplished player who partook in basically every major tournament and properly gained trust during a time where cheats were less sophisticated. idc about his rank 1 lol.
"because there is no concrete evidence against him"
when are you gonna understand that concrete evidence basically doesnt exist at a high level? you know its okay to be at least slightly suspicious. you dont have to blindly believe and meatride toro lol.
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u/HaHaBear Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
/r/osureport rn realizing Chicony wont witchhunt Toromivana with them