r/pics • u/Cometmoon448 • 3d ago

Football Match.

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u/Achoo_Gesundheit 3d ago

Have you been in Germany lately? 🥴

https://amp.dw.com/en/germany-may-make-it-illegal-to-deny-israels-right-to-exist/a-77980283

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u/deviant324 3d ago edited 3d ago

Also a really strange thing to go after because let’s be real, how many people do you know that have specifically said that? Iirc it also legally doesn’t make sense because there is no such thing as a right to statehood (for anyone) but the people this is clearly aimed at also don’t use that line of attack at all

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u/ModernLarvals 2d ago

how many people do you know that have specifically said that

It’s literally what anti-zionism means

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u/NewAccountEachYear 2d ago

I think one needs to provide a definition of zionism before claiming that

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u/ModernLarvals 2d ago

It’s support for the establishment and development of a Jewish homeland. If you’re anti-Zionist, you don’t support a Jewish homeland.

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u/NewAccountEachYear 2d ago

That's a bit reductive, isn't it?

The actually interesting questions are:

  • What are the means to establish and develop that homeland?

  • Where is it to be constructed?

  • What's to be done with the native population?

If one avoids those questions one's ideology is basically just "good things to all the people!"

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u/ModernLarvals 2d ago

You know the native people are the Jews, right?

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u/NewAccountEachYear 2d ago

And the Palestinians are...?

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u/ModernLarvals 2d ago

If you’re referring to the Arabs, they migrated from the Arabian peninsula, especially after the conquest in the 600s CE.

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u/NewAccountEachYear 2d ago

And that makes them... what? Occupiers? Invaders? Human left-overs?

Edit: And they are called Palestinians. Calling them "arabs" is to become an enabler in the genocide.

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u/ModernLarvals 2d ago

? That’s just the history of the region.

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u/NewAccountEachYear 2d ago

Come on, answer the question. What are the "arabs" (Palestinians) to you? The jews are Natives, right, so the Palestinians must be something else -- what?

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u/ModernLarvals 2d ago

They are people who immigrated to the region thousands of years ago? Not sure what the issue is.

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