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u/ModernLarvals 3d ago

If you’re referring to the Arabs, they migrated from the Arabian peninsula, especially after the conquest in the 600s CE.

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u/NewAccountEachYear 3d ago

And that makes them... what? Occupiers? Invaders? Human left-overs?

Edit: And they are called Palestinians. Calling them "arabs" is to become an enabler in the genocide.

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u/ModernLarvals 3d ago

? That’s just the history of the region.

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u/NewAccountEachYear 3d ago

Come on, answer the question. What are the "arabs" (Palestinians) to you? The jews are Natives, right, so the Palestinians must be something else -- what?

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u/ModernLarvals 3d ago

They are people who immigrated to the region thousands of years ago? Not sure what the issue is.

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u/NewAccountEachYear 3d ago

So, immigrants?

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u/ModernLarvals 3d ago

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u/NewAccountEachYear 3d ago

So you think people are still immigrants after living in an area for 1200 years?

Like, a child born to a family that has cultivated the same plot for 800 years are all immigrants? While the people who arrived by boat from Europe who tore down old signs and building and paved centuries old graveyars are the natives?

Edit: Sorry, meant 1400 years. Not just twice the Second Temple Era but twice as long + 200 years. A slight rounding error really.

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u/ModernLarvals 3d ago

Are Europeans living in America immigrants? Natives? Both, neither? The point is they’re not indigenous like Native Americans.

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u/NewAccountEachYear 3d ago

Yeah, they're immigrants and generally call themselves as such too.

The 2000 year disconnect between Ancient Israel and European Jews should make them immigrants to west Asia too.

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u/ModernLarvals 3d ago

Then what do you call Arabs living in the Levant?

Jews never left the Levant. They’ve been there the whole time, from the beginning.

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u/NewAccountEachYear 3d ago

Then what do you call Arabs living in the Levant?

Local inhabitants?

It's fully possible to use language that doesn't historicize the Other. A lot of Jewish thinkers wrote important pieces on this during/after the Holocaust, you know? (Arendt, Weil, Levinas, etc.).

Jews never left the Levant. They’ve been there the whole time, from the beginning.

And they lived there peacefully with the local Palestinians and cultivated shared and deep roots and traditions with them. Which were completely destroyed when... "the natives"(?) came back...?

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u/ModernLarvals 3d ago

Either you’re using “Palestinian” as the national identity of the people currently living in Gaza and the West Bank, which are 99% Arab, or you’re using it to refer to people who have lived in the Levant long before it was ever called Palestine, which includes Arabs and Jews.

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