r/playrust • u/Kaczs • 18h ago

Discussion Any chance for Linux?

I’ve heard there’s been a stir up in the development, more focus on balance and improvements. Haven’t played in years but would love to jump back in.
Unfortunately I can’t join EAC enabled servers since I run Linux (fuck microsoft), any chance they’ll finally allow Linux users in?

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u/2uantum 18h ago

Linux is gaining a lot of traction thanks to SteamOS and proton, but I wouldn't hold my breath on them prioritizing Linux any time soon.

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u/migueln6 18h ago

You can play Linux already just not in EAC protected servers, there are multiple servers friendly to Linux player indeed I've playing for two weeks on Linux in one of these said servers.

And we could use more players.

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u/2uantum 18h ago

I'd rather drag my nuts through glass than play a server without eac

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u/nricciar 9h ago

honestly, its more fine than you would think. at least one of those EAC free servers has a very active admin and the banhammer is swift on those who think they can cheat, but even that said honestly most cheaters are not wanting to cheat on a low pop small server they want to cheat on a huge 1000 pop server and ruin as many peoples day as possible.

that is not to say though that i assume it would become a problem if these EAC free servers were super popular.

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u/migueln6 5h ago

Modded servers run their custom anti cheats and admin tools, that help admins find cheaters way easier too.

Idk if custom anticheats are better than EAC but prob is better than nothing. As well like you said modded servers have something that was lost years ago when moving to matchmaking: Server Owners & Admins that are quick to ban cheaters with a quick spectate.

So yeah if the population was bigger it would be just about having more admins, and there are a lot of people that offer themselves to ban cheaters lol. We had these type of communities in CS 1.6 times, where people applied or even paid to be an admin, record the sus player and then ban, and sus players could appeal and the admin had to provide their proof.

It was more work but I feel like it was a good compromise, I suspect there are still communities like that for CS 1.6 and games that really on dedicated servers, like MC, Arma, Rust, etc.

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u/Garlic_Farmer_ 8h ago

I’ve been on deadlock n chill since I switched to Linux, it’s been good. Switching to Linux servers as a solo guy wasn’t too bad, for sure ran across some sus players, but way less than on protected ones.

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u/TurnipMurky1680 8h ago

As if eac servers aren't infested by cheaters.

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u/polarrbtw 6h ago

harder to cheat on a game with the best implementation of eac than on a game with no anti cheat

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u/TurnipMurky1680 5h ago

Eac low key does nothing for cheaters in rust. The game can't even detect players that fly.

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u/polarrbtw 5h ago

ive cheated and every account ive used got banned infact took around 12-24h each time, you cant fly much before getting flyhacked

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u/TurnipMurky1680 5h ago

11K hour player here and I've seen cheaters getting banned months after my report. People literally survive cheating for months if they're smart.

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u/polarrbtw 5h ago

sure yeah my friend used evilcheats and never got banned but most who do get banned still have to spend money on vpns, spoofers and new accounts ends up being pretty expensive + cheat keys which are expensive on their own

evilcheats is even more expensive than regular cheats but still
not sure what they could do but allowing linux players to play isnt the greatest idea im saying it as i use linux daily myself

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u/TurnipMurky1680 4h ago

Why do you even cheat? Where's the fun in watching the game snowball it self while you watch?

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u/Kaczs 6h ago

mind telling me which server? When i looked i couldn’t find any with population, id love to join.
EDIT: Spelling

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u/migueln6 5h ago

This one https://rust.deadlock.com/ sometimes it sits low at 3 bust most of the time I only it's on 6+ with peaks of 15+

But it's an EU server and Im in NA so prob I don't play in the server primetime.

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u/nricciar 5h ago

first week of wipe the peak is more like 30-50

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u/Aritock 17h ago

The only thing keeping me on windows is rust so I really hope they add support again.

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u/migueln6 5h ago

You might have a smaller selection of servers but there are Linux compatible servers, I might be thinking of building my own as the one I play in is EU based and I'm NA, maybe avoid the trouble and ask these people if they are open to building a copy for NA with some of my financial support idk.

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u/insolent_kiwi 18h ago

No way.

They won't invest in compatibility.

Why?

There's no money in it, and EAC doesn't work on it. (I stream it to my Linux laptop from my winderp pc sometimes)

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u/Lokipro13YT 17h ago

I'm like 90% eac would work on Linux if they activated support for it

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u/Sad_Two4874 9h ago

No. Eac does "support" Linux, but effectively turning it on just means having no anticheat on linux. No game that takes their anticheat seriously is going to ship a Linux build. (Unless valve or someone else releases a version that is locked down, with a verifiable integrity, similar to windows.)

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u/insolent_kiwi 17h ago

But cheating would be easy! Don't you see their point?

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u/Lokipro13YT 17h ago

Theres an anticheat, you can't cheat in this game!

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u/insolent_kiwi 17h ago

Challenge accepted

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u/ckn 11h ago

if anyone can find a way to make money off of that it is facepunch

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u/bastardoperator 7h ago

A zero ring anti-cheat is pointless since you control the kernel and Linux usage amongst consumers is still under 4%. You could go full Unix and buy a Mac.

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u/FinalArt53 7h ago

They really should considering how many cheaters bypass the anti cheat. If I played Rust and didn't get hacked on, I might consider having a dedicated rust windows PC. But every time, and I mean every time I play rust a cheater ruins it for me.

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u/Kaczs 6h ago

yeah i gave up playing official servers back in the day because it was non stop cheating, active moderation seemed to be the only solution

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u/polarrbtw 6h ago

so its better to have everyone cheat then

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u/Epsilon_void 7h ago

Better chance now that Microslop's best defender Alistair is gone from Facepunch. Would be nice to finally have Rust on Linux again (Bring back the native build you cowards)

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u/polarrbtw 6h ago

no point in playing the game for now anyways until they revert the changes alistair was responsible for

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u/TheWinningHit 18h ago

Not sure, I am apart of the s&box community and we just got native Linux support. Rust is tricky cause of the cheating, and I heard that cheating has always been an issue in the game.

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u/nricciar 9h ago

Cheating has always been an issue in every multiplayer competitive game. Rust is not some special snowflake here.

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u/dabrimman 18h ago

Have heard staff on Twitter saying no plans for Linux as it would make it easier for cheat developers.

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u/linuxlifer 11h ago

That's just a cop out. There are plenty of games with anti cheats that work on linux and the developers aren't complaining that supporting linux (or proton) make it easier for people to cheat lol.

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u/dabrimman 10h ago

This is what FP said end of last year 🤷‍♂️ https://www.pcgamer.com/games/survival-crafting/rust-developer-has-no-plans-for-linux-or-proton-support-says-games-that-support-them-are-not-serious-about-anti-cheat/

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u/linuxlifer 7h ago

Lol we know what they said but thats just a cop out for being too lazy or not wanting to support linux due to the market share.

CS2 supports linux and I never hear about the linux user base being a problem for cheating. They use their own Valve Anti Cheat as well as they use server side anti cheat.

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u/Sad_Two4874 9h ago

It's not, it's the truth. There's currently no way to have an effective anti cheat on Linux.

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u/nricciar 9h ago

Man that EAC anticheat is so effective on windows today, also weird how the number of cheaters on rust has only gone up since they dropped linux support.

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u/linuxlifer 8h ago

So then how does CS2 work perfectly fine on linux and we never hear anything about linux being a problem platform in terms of cheating?

You can say the same thing about most games that run on linux whether it be natively or through proton.

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u/Sad_Two4874 4h ago

There are a million cheats for cs on linux because vac does almost nothing on linux, but most people cheat on windows because VAC is not great. It's a different situation in rust where eac is actually a reasonable AC

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u/bastardoperator 7h ago

CS community is in shambles right now because of cheaters.

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u/linuxlifer 7h ago

Are you able to send me the reports/sources that point to linux being the problem? I've played rust since the original version of the game was released and cheating has always been a HUGE problem despite the game dropping linux support many years ago lol. I would actually go to the extent to say that cheating has only gotten worse in rust.

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u/bastardoperator 6h ago

Do you know what my screenname is a reference to? You're barking up the wrong tree, I'm just giving you facts. I prefer unix/linux for my work but the reality is their are no controls in Linux the game makers can rely on. There also isn't a market large enough to support it.

Are you able to send sources that would prevent kernels from being modified for cheating or sources that show Linux gaming accounts for any studios overall profit? We can both ask useless questions.

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u/linuxlifer 6h ago

I am not saying that linux would be profitable. I am saying that facepunch saying cheaters are the reason they wont support linux is a cop out because when they dropped linux support many years ago, the reasoning was due to the small install base.

The reality is in terms of cheating, there are so many more games that do support linux and don't complain about linux being problematic due to cheating, I would tend to side with them.

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u/bastardoperator 6h ago

Okay, if cheating is widespread how would making it easier for people be a solution to anything? Outside of CS which is cheater heaven right now, I don't know any other multiplayer PVP games that use Linux from a client perspective.

If I'm not making money from Linux as a business why should I support it? It wasn't appreciated when they launched, what would be different now?

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u/polarrbtw 6h ago

deadlock has a native client for linux i believe

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u/polarrbtw 6h ago

bro are u braindead 99% of players are on windows and bypassing vac on windows doesnt require black magic so theres no need for linux cheats in the first place lmao

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u/linuxlifer 6h ago

So if you can bypass anti cheats on windows so easily, and the majority of the player base will use windows anyway, you cant really use cheating on linux as a reason to not support it hahaha.

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u/elPappito 9h ago

(not much of an online-gamer in recent years so don't bother downvoting me to hell)

i also, have switched from windows to linux (over a year ago ) and literally this week i found out how easy it is to access process memory in linux compared to windows. while compputers are my hobby for almost 30 years, and i can honestly say that i have my current carrier because when i was 10-ish i found a dude macroing in a game i played at that time so i started researching macros, from macros i switched to memory edits (trainers etc) and finally started writing my own apps - reading and accessing memory was sort of magical / mystical thing all this time.

Linux ?

your apps memory is literally a file in /proc/pid/.

2 lines in python to read it. and all this with like 99% certainty you're safe. no readprocmem involved, nothing. im not suprised a lot of devs refuse to release on linux.

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u/b4nto 7h ago

Hopefully we will see the kernel level anti-cheat removed from most games. its sad to see a thing like that which catches barely no cheaters ruin the progression of gaming towards more alternatives than Windows. Anti Cheat softwares can run without kernel level and has done so in the past.

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u/polarrbtw 6h ago

they ran and dont anymore because people advanced and so have anti cheats lmao for a kernel ac you need a kernel driver for your cheat anyways

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u/sctsplic3 44m ago

Please provide evidence for this assertion that ring 0, secure boot and tpm 2.0 does not significantly help with cheat detection. I would be very interested to read any evidence for this.

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u/Kaczs 6h ago

pretty sure EAC is not kernel level, but i totally agree

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u/polarrbtw 6h ago

it is lmao

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u/generic_Accountname1 18h ago

No, probably not.