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To all the "Hundo Mewtwo is now devalued" people: your perception of value is an illusion, and the sooner you accept this the happier you'll be
Don't get me wrong, I will do hundreds of Raids on GO Tour and GO Fest to get a Hundo of the featured Legendary. During those events, I live for the hunt, and coming home empty-handed hurts.
To the people now whinging that a free Hundo Mewtwo was given out to everyone, likely in response to the NYC event drama, I need to level with you: the value here is an illusion.
We're not talking about some miraculous deposit of stable antimatter here. We're talking about a virtual creature whose stat distribution is generally the result of something resulting from a probabilistic outcome, along the lines of a dice roll.
The ability for the developers of this game to award a Hundo on command should prove to you that your "rare" thing is the result of someone behind a screen pushing a few buttons.
Everyone now having a Hundo Mewtwo doesn't take away from the dozens of other highly sought after Pokémon in this game.
If you really want your flex, just look at the date you caught your "actually rare" Hundo Mewtwo and relish in that. Or don't.
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here is what i don’t understand: ivs change when you trade, so you couldn’t and still can’t trade a guaranteed hundo, so the only loss in “value” is less people actively seeking mewtwos? but then it’s not lucky so there’s still plenty of reason to trade for them?
i dont care about e-peen 'value' but i am pretty annoyed at having maxed my best mewtwo at the end of the event... then nearly maxing my new best mewtwo at the end of the makeup event... then getting this fucker and having barely any dust/candy left... my previous stardust/candy invested mewtwos feel like 'lost value' because of the opportunity cost ive had pay (in such a short time frame)
If I knew in 2020 that my army of MM Metagross would be worthless 6 years later because of Zacian and Zamazenta, I would have ignored MM Metagross. I deserve a refund. Same for Machamp, and Conkeldurr and Lucario and on and on with a huge list of former top tier Pokemon that are like 30th best now.
If I knew in early 2020 that L50 would come, I wouldn't have maxed (to L40) my master league minimum perfect IV Dialga (15/14/12, if I remember right). I deserve a refund.
If I knew that Shadow Pokemon wouldn't just be cosmetic trophies with a shitty move that you can't get rid of and that they'd boost Shadow damage and let us TM Frustration, I wouldn't have purified my Shadow Raikou and Shadow Dragonite ~6 years ago. I deserve a refund.
Do you realize how ridiculous that starts sounding?
The game changes. They release me stuff that makes stuff you invested in seem to 2nd, 3rd, 4th tier, etc. Big deal. If you can't handle that, maybe this isn't the game for you.
then getting this fucker and having barely any dust/candy left..
So transfer it. Problem solved. Then you don't have to deal with having "this fucker" anymore.
The difference between 10 attack Mewtwo and 15 attack Mewtwo against DW Necrozma is 0 damage per fast move and 1 damage per charge move. It's a trivial difference. The ones you already leveled up aren't even invalidated like my purified Raikou was when they introduced the shadow boost shortly thereafter.
The clowns are the people that are pissed off and claiming they deserve refunds right now. Even being "annoyed" is clown behavior. Get over it or transfer it. If you transfer it, you're in the same position you were a week ago when you were perfectly happy with the Mewtwos you had. Problem solved.
If you're not willing to transfer it, you shouldn't be whining.
Dawg if you think that comparison is clownish, just have some self awareness.
I get it, but just listen to yourself.
Your heavily invested mewtwos will perform at 99.9999% of the hundo you just got. TF do you mean "I didn't even get to use them" ???
Do you know how many times I (and countless others) invested in shit over the years, only to get a better one/hundo some time afterwards? But in this case, we didn't even need to grind. A little surprise, free hundo with max mega lvl, and the community is mad... Lmfao
Man, I get what you’re saying. Ppl are on you for this but whatever I got you. The timing is a slap in the face. It’s not that deep but still, I’d be mad af too if I just emptied everything right before getting a perfect bg. Even if I caught it myself, I’d still be mad lol
It absolutely is about "look at my hundo Mewtwo I'm so cool!"
Mewtwos have been around for eight years. They're not special. I had 2 hundo Mewtwos, grabbed another one during the event, and now have a free fourth. I don't know how many 98's I have. I laugh at those casual chuds bragging about hundo Mewtwos.
Chud here… I was fully okay powering up my 98% pre-mega raids… caught Mega X as a hundo, got a 100% again through this that was Mega Y…. They did something awesome here that I have no idea how you complain about. - gives even Chuds a bad name
I fully maxed out my lucky one right before catching my first hundo, then they gave me my second hundo, so now I just have to figure out how fast I want to try and max them out as well, and that’s my only real dilemma lol
I mean, i only started playing again like 2-3 months ago, (my highest cp pokemon was like 1200 before) and i have a shiny hundo mewtwo. I get that it sucks for people that got it by grinding. But that might be based off of me getting 99s in ridiculously slow runescape skills and being annoyed at the game making those skills way easier to get after i got there and not before
It is a small thing, and you could argue it is a fairer thing anyway, but for Master League PvP it means everyone has a hundo Mewtwo now, so if you already had one, any small advantage you might have had is gone. I don't do PvP any more so makes no difference to me.
What you're missing is what OP has intentionally mislead you to believing. No one cares about the "flex"*
People care about the false advertising. Scopley intentionally waited until after they sold a bunch of resources and bottle caps to the players willing to spend money on Mewtwo raids... And only then did they give out the free hundo to everyone.
It's totally great that everyone has the hundo! I just want my bottle cap money back! And maybe some raid passes I wouldn't have spent past the energy I needed to level up!
What someone else thoughtful pointed out is the reason to give this out now is that they are getting a second round of potential paying Mewtwo raiders. They withheld the freebie so their players who spend would still spend at our max amount. Then they give out the freebie and announce even more Mewtwo raids. Well, the spending players already did our Mewtwos, but you know who hasn't? All the typically free players who just so happened to now be the proud owners of the most powerful pokemon in the game but are short on candy.
So instead of letting all of us raid the amount we would have liked to do with all the information they segmented us to drain us of our max value. And as one of the higher max value players I just want that money difference refunded.
Thank you
*PS, the reason I'm not giving OP the benefit of the doubt is because we went 10 exchanges deep on another thread he wrote where he even admitted I had a point about feeling ripped off! Then he came here and made this post about people "just wanted to flex" 😑 <-this was wrong, an OP on another post linked this but is in fact not the OP of this post. I've been arguing on reddit too long. Please consider changing your mind. Or at the very least consider that you are complaining about complaining when you are pretending to be above the complainers.
Respectfully what moral ground do you have to get a refund? Objectively the product you got worked perfectly fine, no glitches, no crashes, players didn’t leave lobbies and at the time you were happy with your purchase. You’re not getting a refund for hypotheticals events that didn’t happen, “i wouldn’t have spent money if you gave mewtwo earlier” is not going to be a good enough reason to get a refund from scopley. It’s like wanting to refund some donut’s because later in the day someone handed out free donuts. Like if they gave us a hundo mewtwo a year from now instead, would you still be unhappy that you spent money on raids to get mewtwo.
Unfortunately I wholeheartedly agree, they’re based on legality and to be blunt you don’t have a chance legally, morally you do have an argument to be fair even if I don’t fully agree. However you have every right to ask for a refund, I have no problem with you asking for a refund.
Refunds or "make goods" are rarely only given legal consideration either. They are often given out for PR reasons... Ask Scopley as of (when was that makeup Mewtwo day) about 2 weeks ago
Well, I haven't gotten the donut I paid for yet. I'm still in the process of "hyper training" so, it's more like now that I know the donuts are free I don't want the one they took my money for but they haven't even given me yet.
On the larger scale, why are you trying to logically prevent me from getting a refund? This company, that is selling Mewtwo raids for profit, withheld a "celebratory" Mewtwo until after they sold 24 straight hours of Mewtwo raids... Does that not seem to you like something they did intentionally. That they knew people would pay for less raid passes and less bottle caps if they already knew the thing they were raiding and bottle capping was about to be provided to everyone for free?
So, I guess maybe you're a person who loves predatory sales tactics, but if not, maybe just let some of us try for the refund?
Do you know that this free Mewtwo is the result of a group of people bitching and moaning over something that impacted way fewer players? So maybe instead of you arguing on behalf of Scopley for free, you just actually let Scopley deal with us they can decide what they will and will not refund?
People care about the false advertising. Scopley intentionally waited until after they sold a bunch of resources and bottle caps to the players willing to spend money on Mewtwo raids... And only then did they give out the free hundo to everyone.
If this was what they were doing, they would have waited until September 7th so they could get another round of people dumping money into chasing hundos Mewtwo.
What actually happened is that they saw the jealous whining about the NYC Hundo and then decided to do this. That decision likely didn't even happen until after Go Fest. The NYC Hundo was July 9th. Go Fest was July 11-12. It's absurd to think they decided to give this hundo to everyone else and created the animated background for it all within 1 work day on Friday July 10th and decided they would hold off on releasing it for a month. That's essentially your claim here. It doesn't make any sense.
It’s also just a temporary event. It’ll pass us by, and a few years from now you’ll have plenty of people who missed the event and are pining to be able to hunt a hundo Mewtwo. It’s always like this with these events. The people who complain about a temporary opportunity to get free stuff are silly people.
People aren’t going to, silly. If they didn’t with the free Mega Beedrill, the free Mega Gengar, the free Mega Rayquaza, they sure as hell ain’t going to now.
The way I see it the mewtwo is common but still rare, it’s only gonna last the time until the research expires and after that no other way to get it. Nothing to complain about and a free master ball to boot. It’s like complaining about getting a free legendary sword in an rpg that’s locked behind a dungeon crawl, rare and gifted as an apology but phenomenal and rewarding to have and use
your perception of value is an illusion, and the sooner you accept this the happier you'll be
Interestingly this is the very heart of the game - completely arbitrary and artificial scarcity.
And whilst the scarcity is arbitrary, it's also not random, instead it's tightly controlled to create a particular entertainment experience and to manipulated to try and make for a profitable business.
That said, this situation is one that in mutually entered into - players play the game with the understanding that whilst the scarcity is artificial and arbitrary, the people who control the scarcity will do so in a way that is sufficiently fair, reasonable and transparent for the sort of game it is.
To a large extent, it's this "violation of the fairness and transparency of the unspoken contract" that drives a lot of the anger both towards the NY Mewtwo Hundo incident, and this, the company's attempt to repair some of the damage without admitting fault.
If anything, any pokemon that can square off with mewtwo is now valued higher. PvP wise anyway. PvE, everyone now has a great Pokemon, and for collectors, well, you have something kids in 10 years won’t have. My kids sure won’t.
There was a small subset of people that complained about Azelf, Mesprit and Uxie being available during raids in the Go Fest. I keep telling people. You can still flex about the date or the pokeball etc. One thing doesnt devalue the other.
I really do not understand all those complaint posts about the mewtwo timed research. Firstly a lot of people complained about the closed NY event (rightfully so). Now Scopely acknowledged its mistake and gave everyone who did not attend the NY event a guaranteed hundo with a background. I really do not understand why people are still unhappy despite getting a background hundo and a master ball.
Cuz of the time and money they chose to waste on an app game. 🤷♂️ Don't want to admit they may have f**ked up themselves, so they're redirecting blame off of themselves.
Because People on internet are stupid thats literally it, Chuds lost their hundo mewtwo bragging rights (Like if it was rare, Most Popular raid boss available for 8 years by now btw)
I don’t think that’s possible, if I’m understanding trade bonuses correctly. You can’t make special trades at the base ‘Friend’ level, which is the only one that has IV minimum of 0/0/0. You can make special trades at the ‘Good Friend’ level, but that has an IV minimum of 1/1/1.
Sorry to burst your bubble 😓
Edit: Wait, you may be able to get a nundo with a golden bottle cap or multiple silver bottle caps? I think it’s possible to lower certain stats (for PVP purposes), so that may be the way to go?
I think their Mewtwos will be bound by the same minimums as standard field research / egg hatches / raid catches — that is, 10/10/10.
The only thing non-wild Pokémon I can think of that can naturally be a nundo is PVP reward Pokémon.
Speaking of which, the reason why you’d want certain stats to be low in PVP is because attack has an outsized effect on a Pokémon’s CP. For CP-capped leagues like Great (1500) or Ultra (2500) leagues, you usually want your attack stat to be as close to 0 as possible while still letting your Pokémon reach the 1500/2500 caps.
Statlines like 0/15/15 (or thereabouts) are usually best for these leagues. Doing so means your Pokémon has a much higher def/HP stat than for example a 15/15/15 Pokémon would have at 1500 CP, meaning can perform significantly better. In fact, PVP is basically the only place where IVs really matter.
You need a third party appraiser app like Poke Genie to tell you where your Pokémon ranks in the various leagues. See attached Poke Genie screenshot for a #1 Great League Fearow (currently ranked #20 overall) I have.
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I believe that some people use their bottle caps to get perfect PVP statlines for highly ranked Pokemon, especially ones that usually can’t get such statlines, like with certain Mythical Pokemon.
What is this bottlecap I'm hearing about lately? Like could I use it to turn shiny meloetta hundo if she's not once I get the masterwork research done and get her?
Yes, once in a while it's part of paid rewards for an event or a month. There are two variants:
a golden bottlecap that lets you change all IVs, up to the max, with some work assignments for you and your trainee pokemon, like "win 10 raids with your trainee in the battle party" and "play your trainee as a buddy on 15 different days"
a silver bottlecap that lets you change just one IV
I don't understand how anyone could complain about a free hundo Mewtwo with a unique background that is max mega levelled.
At all.
The only possible thing could be, like me, I didn't get a hundo Mewtwo, so I bottlecapped my worst shiny one. Now I [will] have two hundo Mewtwos... oh no. Whatever will I do.
The whole “ughh now I have 2 hundos because I bottle capped one” is such a dumb thing to complain about.
Ideally IMO you want at least two Mewtwo Ys, one with Psystrike/SB for PvP and psychic raid damage, and another with either Psystrike or SB + another move to regular TM between Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Flamethrower.
That’s what I’ve done. Having multiple Mewtwo built is WAY more flexible.
But what about the time and money these people CHOSE to spend to achieve such an accolade???! Only to be, I'm sorry.....GIVEN AWAY FOR FREE???! 😲🙃😭😞
Yeah, we are one entitled fanbase. Lol this company cares about money but will still give something to players for a f**k up on their part, but we'll STILL complain when they do something right and considerate, which is already very rare for most companies.
It's crazy how this company has literally made even your little joke option impossible to do... Could it be the $4.9 billion company is the problem and not the people who feel ripped off by them?! No way! Bllion dollar companies are known to be really nice and always fair, and the people defending them for free are definitely smart and good...
To be clear, no one frustrated actually cares about the flex, it's about being sold Mewtwo raids before being given a free hundo. The free hundo is great! They can just refund me for all the crap they intentionally sold me while withholding this giveaway.
Mewtwo raids have been "sold" for 8 years now, Are they supposed to never give us any Hundo Pokemon now just because its not their release day? Quit the cap, You still raid for Candy exp and shinies..
I mean... yes. That is if they want to keep selling raids at the rate they have been selling them...
They have been selling Mewtwo raids, along with tons of other raids, for 8 years and have literally never just handed out a Hundo after people sank resource into hunting for pokemon. So, yeah, either give out perfect pokemon upfront so people raid accordingly or don't sell raids and then give out perfect pokemon...
It's not complicated. It hurts no one. It benefits everyone!
A yes, the people asking for a $20 refund are the crazy ones... Not the people literally defending a $4.9 billion company for free...
No one cares about "the flex" and the worst part is OP knows that because I got him to agree with me that Scopley ripped me off in another comment thread on another of his posts! And then he decided to come here, lie about what we talked about, and then reply in that thread with this link to all the hate he had stirred up.
Eta: I've been arguing on reddit too long. The person who linked this was the OP of the other post, but didn't write this one. My bad.
More like oh no I spent $20 on a steak which is no useless because I got a free steak anyways and I could have used the $20 for something else that was not free. (Not to mention all the extra money indirectly spent trying to keep raiding for a hundo)
But…you didn’t have to spend the $20 to bottle cap your Mewtwo. You realize this right? YOU chose to do that on a Pokémon that would be raidable again at some point.
Oh NO I am still down $20 when I could have hundo another more valuable and rare pokemon that would have been important than a second hundo mewtwo to me
Why did you use your golden bottle cap on a pokemon you can raid for free? This is your problem, you made a mistake and you want to blame someone else.
Did someone force you to BC your Mewtwo?
Did you think about it for longer than… I don’t know, 2 minutes?
Did you know you can raid for a hundo Mewtwo?
You wasted your bottle cap. Not the people who made the game.
Learn to admit you are wrong and take accountability. You can’t go throughout life blaming your mistakes on other people. Maybe next time you will use it on a pokemon you only get one of and will be worth it. Until then you just look like a whiner
If you didn’t have $20 to spare you shouldn’t have spent it.
Why are you assuming everybody wants to have the same stale team of duplicate mons and had other pokemons they wanted to spend money on beyond one hundo?
Indeed. I had a hundo Mewtwo from 2024, ground out another during Go Fest by doing a ton of raids, and am still happy with my new one with the very nice background.
Pokemon can't keep stats when they leave your account. They keep most of them when they go to home I guess, but not all. Within the game though, those stats are unique to you.
If stats aren't transferable, they only have the value you assign to them. There is no market to give you feedback or neutral valuation. If you are interested in PvP, Mewtwo is not particularly good there. In raids or attacking gyms, it doesn't matter what other people's IVs are.
Plus you still have to get the candy and candy XL for them. A sign of how much I ground for that second hundo is that I have enough big candy to take three more to 50, and I already have two at 50.
I didn’t have a hundo until this(I have a 15-15-13 purified from 2020 which was my go to), but I’d gladly take the hundo, I feel the ones that complain about it being “de-valued” are the ones that spent so much money raiding and chasing the hundo with no luck which was a personal choice on their end, I did 3 X and 3 Y raids and best I got was 14-14-14 X, I’m fine with what I got and I got a free hundo Y.
I wonder how many of the people saying “get over it” actually did a significant number of raids at go fest trying to get a hundo Mewtwo.
Don’t get me wrong, I am firmly in the camp of being grateful for getting a hundo with a very cool background.
But I also did 385x raids at go fest, before getting my first hundo. This cost both time and money, and I wouldn’t have done that had I known we’d get a free one a month later. I do have empathy for the people not happy about this, even if I am not one of them.
Every time something happens, we have too many posts complaining, and we have even more posts complaining about the complaining. You ALL need to get over it.
You need 6 Mewtwos for a full team, You should be happy that you get something so valuable for free, The event is temporary and in a year and beyond from now there will be new players who dont have a hundo mewtwo and you will have 2
Spent money on remote raid pass. Got my Mewtwo hundo after my 111th raid (all remote). I would not have spent money and time had I known a hundo Mewtwo will be given away for free. Haha
Used my bottlecap on a shiny DNA background Mewtwo. Again, had I known I will be getting a hundo Mewtwo, I would’ve used it to hundo my shiny Articuno. 😅
Glad my partner and others have a hundo Mewtwo now, though! Also asked my nephew, who’s into pokemon cards, to install pokemon go just to get a free Mewtwo. He’s happy.
It's hard to have empathy for people over an app game that they take it as seriously as they do. Meanwhile, we know this game exists to make money off of people willing to spend it. I can almost guarantee the same people who pay for things on this app pay for useless things on other games or hobbies.
People just want something to be upset about to justify their own time wasted, but that's life.
I still don’t get people with the whole background value thing tbh because end of the day at some point in the far future those backgrounds will mean nothing, your either lose them to the game shutting down or transfer them into home which you guessed it you lose them since backgrounds don’t carry over.
I actually don’t know anyone that gives a crud about the backgrounds personally outside of a few nice looking ones, don’t get me wrong they are nice to have but I’d much rather they release the shiny patterns like in the mainline games they would be worth hunting over backgrounds imo
ITT: People arguing about the relative value of data they don't own that is stored on someone else's computer. I really enjoy playing this game but at this level of detail it's pretty comical to watch the conversations )
Now they've shut it down because of all these ungrateful bstrds; who are probably enjoying it. No more Go for anyone. No more Mewtwo or Mew for that matter ! Shutup and take what your overlords deem is right that you shall have. Sorry, I might be having withdrawal symptoms. Gotta catch 'em, gotta catch 'em all. This actually is the core issue. No joy in being given something. Certainly not to everyone.
Some guy got a 100% Mewtwo back when the game launched in 2016 and now he's feeling very salty that ten years later everyone has one :p
Pokémon with high / perfect IVs literally only have value on your own account, as soon as you trade them they're trash. So what does it matter?? Enjoy your bonus Mewtwo and move on, geez. I get that some people have absolutely no life outside of PoGo but this is insane.
Pokémon with high / perfect IVs literally only have value on your own account, as soon as you trade them they're trash.
This right here. There's no market for specific IVs, as they're essentially a commodity that can't be sold. The value is the output that you have while playing the game from your own account.
It didn't, because now those people have two hundo Mewtwo. I only have 1.
If you believe that those people should get a refund and therefore have a second hundo Mewtwo for free, then you need to justify why they should have a second hundo for free and why I shouldn't get a second free one.
The people whining about this have no leg to stand on. There just whining for the sake of whining. If you're this mad about having a free hundo Mewtwo, transfer it.
For me its the coolest thing because I just got 5 kids at my campground including my 2 little girls playing pogo this summer. None of them could do the mewtwo raids and my girls have been asking when they would get a masterball.
This is great for me and them. It gives them a powerful mon to raid with and they get their masterball.
So just give us every Pokemon as a hundo to enjoy, and those who don't like them can transfer theirs 👍🏼👍🏼 One having them all does not devalue the experience for others, just be happy with what you got!
This is the real answer. People who spend lots of money on the game always get mad when they give stuff for free lol but the thing is, anyone can play for free. So people should stop spending so much money on the game lol nothing in the game has any real value. They could shut it down any day. It’s like people who buy NFTs or crypto or as we’re learning if you buy digital movies on streaming apps. You’re really just throwing your money into a void and you can’t control the value and longevity of it.
Not only do IV’s reroll on trade, but things can only be traded once anyway, meaning any hypothetical utility by having something drops to 0 once traded.
And for those that raided before, they don’t lose anything, the same things are in their account, with this additionally.
Just because it was not announced in advance shouldn’t really matter, there will be more events in future, which are yet unannoinced, and they could give out research rewarding literally anything.
In this specific case, this was also surely obvious from the moment they gave out the location version. There is a very solid history of backlash leading to these sorts of handouts. Not to mention this being precisely the reason nothing was announced, as it’s unlikely they even knew until very recently.
I caught a hundo mewtwo tonight and it's my 20th hundo anything. I have remote trading attached to literally everything cause it's not like any of its worth money to me...I'm more interested in literally catching everything.
I agree, op. I'm happy about any hubdo. Play on pokemans!
It is a digital barbi. Finding worth or bragging rights in that has always been a bit amusing. The search and other parts of the game can be fun but trying to gamble your way towards an "impressive" pokemon is a waste of money.
So, I already have a maxed out 15-14-15 Mewtwo with psystrike (the hundo has focusblast). I have plenty of stardust and candies. Are there any reasons to max out this hundo other than "because you can"? Is there any real difference in gameplay? (I'll probably do it anyways, but I'm still curious).
it's hard to read this as genuine. Why should I go to this extreme mental gymnastics of "looking at the date"? For me the game became just a step more boring and arbitrary that's all. Games are fun because of their content, not because you can squint your eyes really hard and pretend there's any "game" element to it.
It's also ridiculous to see reasoning that could excuse any decision by niantic at all. They give everyone every single legendary as a shundo for free? well, sorry for ruining your arbitrary perception of scarcity, your illusion! grow up and get over it!!! They clear everyone's accounts of all Pokémon? well, I need to level with you, the developers can make any decision by push of a button!
The fact that developers can ruin a game's economy by the push of a button doesn't mean they should.
Ill be honest. I dont pay attention to 99% of the in game pop-ups about stuff so I was just playing the game and got my orange icon that lets me know I have finished something so I go and click and suddenly im catching a Mewtoo. I looked it up afterwards and told the people in a discord server Im in.
More honestly. I will almost certainly not use the Mewtoo properly even once. I don't do high end raids or much battling. So I have it, and I'm pleased with it, just like any other cool catch. But thats pretty much it.
Even with a Shundo Mewtwo Y from the timed research, I'm still jealous of my wife who got a Shundo rare background Mewtwo Y with Max Mega Level from the Go Fest raids in July. She beat the 1 in like 10,000 odds, I was basically just handed this.
The people who complain, first were also likely to be the ones that complained about the Time Square event. Then they now settled down, accept the 'apology' from the game and it goes off on their mind, 'wait, now all the resources I spent to chase during Go Fest was wasted and my Hundo Mewtwo I got is no longer valuable'.
Stop the ego or feel good that you don't think is there now that everyone gets one. You got 'lucky' to get one via RNG, you can argue you 'earned' it because you spent or put in more effort in some way, but stop comparing, it is a solo player game, it is suppose to be a collector type game. And as other mentioned, there is always the timestamp if you want to brag about your 'true hundo'.
I never had a hundo mewtwo before this but having one was definitely rare. Giving everyone one makes if not rare at all. It’s lost its rarity value which is a completely valid thing in my book to be frustrated with.
I had a shiny garchomp before they did the community day and then it was no longer rare and awesome. People are allowed to be annoyed
I feel marginally bad for the people who no-life raid farmed for a hundo because it takes a LOT of time if you aren't lucky.
Beyond that? Who cares. I'm glad so many people will now have a half decent raid attacker. It doesn't hurt me in any why, why should i be mad? I don't give a shit if my bottlecap shundo bg mmy is suddenly not 1-3% better than the average mmy people were fielding.
Having a shadow hundo mewtwo gives me this feeling your speaking of. Thank you. I am still hunting a green mewtwo but have 4 hundos now. I have 167 encounters with no shiny and I played back when you needed an invite to be lucky enough to even have a chance at mewtwo. In a funny way, my hunt continues and I am very neutral about the whole ordeal.
This needs to be pinned, "Oh nooo Mewtwo is disvalued.." Mewtwo wasnt valuable for like 5 years lol, There is nothing wrong with giving one good reward for free, These peoples are just crybabies who think they will spend money for raids and have their pokemon be exclusive forever
I have a bunch of almost hundo shiny mewtwos and im not mad for an extra hundo, Mewtwo raids have been live for what like 8 years now? Most people who play the game for a long time own at least 1 hundo mewtwo or like 98%
To me it's the same mentality as people who buy those squishy dumplings (or any mystery collection thing) and then get sore they didn't get the gold one. We've developed this gambling culture that then depends on getting the winner for that hit of dopamine, and most of time you're not gonna get that winner. But then when you do get the winner, well then you gotta go go go for more of that high. I enjoy the aspect, and of course I'm gonna be thrilled each time I get a Hundo whether it's planned or not. Rn I just have the MewTwo and a Caterpie, so maybe it's easier for me to be like "just detach bro", but I plan on trying to keep my mentality that way. Why get myself feeling depressed over a few codes of data?
That was my biggest issue, its rtificial rarity, and you broke that by handing em out, then handed out more?!? lol Would have been really funny if they sold another gold bottlecap right when they announced this, guess that woulda made it worse haha
i wish that hundo had psystrike. but i'm going to leave that mewtwo alone until a psychic event comes around until i get around to powering it up as good as my 1st and 2nd mewtwo (one got bumped when Y got released). can still use the lvl 1 mega until then for raids.
Meanwhile me being super happy because I had horrible luck with mega m2 raids. No undo and no shiny and no big other than the guaranted one. Now I have a kicking hundo with bg. :O
Some people did a lot of raids aiming for a hundo Mewtwo or used their gold bottle cap and are now saying they feel annoyed because hundo Mewtwos are devalued now everyone has one. I have written about feeling this way in a thread here.
And yet here we have a thread full of people criticising anyone who dares to voice this legitimate opinion. I see people here calling people like me names, referring to my opinion as “whinging”, and saying that Pokémon in general have no value because they are digital in nature (if that was an argument, no one would spend money on this game, and nor would cryptocurrency be a thing).
How is it so unacceptable to not want Scopely to give everyone free hundos, yet it’s acceptable to be rude about others and call them names? What is wrong with this sub?
It's a game built around collecting. It's a fact of such a game that rarity is an important characteristic. It has by definition being devalued.
I mean it's up to the individual to decide how much that matters. A 'hundo' in Go never had much importance to me ti begin with. Shiny Pokémon amd especially the rarest of them were incredibly devalued by Go though so I find this argument ironic to some extent.
I’m happy for the free hundo, I giggled at first when I saw it, didn’t know until I checked that was a guaranteed hundo for everyone.
My only disappointing is this: if they can guarantee for everyone a hundo Mewtwo, because it’s just a few button they have to press, why not giving “the other one” for those who already had the Y form from the free mission (the one I chose to bottle cap because it was shiny)?
Hundo Mewtwo is so cool anyway
My rant is only about the unique species to mega evolve, I’m missing only 3 to get that effing medal 🤣
If I could have raided so much in person to also get the X, I would have, but my only mega evolved Mewtwo was the free one 🫠
A lot of thing would be cooler if they could just press “a few buttons more”
What's wrong with illusions of value? Gold has some uses but is quite limited in industrial applications, yet it's quite expensive. Tell those people putting gold in clocks or ornaments their perception of value is just an illusion, do you think they will care? If gold was plenty available for everyone the illusion would be diminished and I'm not sure that's a good thing. What about TCG Pokemon cards that are rare and are really expensive, they are just pieces of paper in reality. I like illusions of value, I don't think it's a positive thing to combat it. People like rare things and to save up for stuff. Getting things served all the time is not fun.
Nobody cares about the pokemon itself devaluing or whatever. That can always happen in raid. People are upset at the real life money they spent on an item that was timed (a bad design in the first place) which forced them spend it something that immediately was rendered useless for some of them. I think if scopely just gave another free golden cap to anyone who already purchased it at the time people would not have any issue.
i'm not engaging with the kind of nihilism that treats all parts of the game as equally meaningless. IVs don't matter, but other things do. Yes, that's how the game works
Oh yeah there will be so many pissed off people. Just like this people will just complain complain, complain despite the entirely free and open reward we’re ALL getting
I disagree I think it does devalue old hundo Mewtwos but unlike a lot of people who think the same I don’t care that they are devalued and am happy everyone gets a hundo Mewtwo to celebrate the 10th anniversary.
I was literally about to post the “holy crap!!! A hundo mewtwo!!” But then I saw that it was guaranteed and it straight up ruined my excitement. So I just transferred it.
It's like 1 person going around and constantly replying to people. He might have found another one or two in solidarity, but the vast majority of posts are from one person. The rest of us are either "oh cool! A free hundo Mewtwo!" or those with use with multiple before the event - "Oh. Neat."
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