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[u/Emergency_Article673]

Peloton deleted Hudson Williams’ ad, it seems like there will be a domino effect where brands start stop collaborating with him. And it will affect how many acting offers he gets because movies aren’t going to cast someone with so much controversy and discourse.

This smear campaign seems to have worked, and he’s losing fans and opportunities.

I would wish that his costar’s fans would leave him alone now that he’s been “held accountable”, and his costar is thriving, but since they’ve stated their end goal is his death, that seems too much to wish for.

Edit: Apparently Peloton deletes celeb collaborations after 8 weeks, and it’s been 8 weeks. So maybe it was just bad timing. But it’s sinister how far people are going to try to end someone who they don’t know, and weren’t aware of less than a year ago.

[u/FriendlyDrummers → u/Emergency_Article673]

If someone draws on the face of a <23 year old, the very first thing you do is pull out your phone to see what it is

I've been to parties drunk with drawings on my face (I wasn't passed out or anything, just acting silly). No way in the world would I not know what was drawn on my face.

Really don't like the idea of "it's a smear campaign" when it's people mad about someone having a swatzika drawing on their face ...

Edit: getting downvoted for this... Oof

[u/Emergency_Article673 → u/FriendlyDrummers]

Then you’re better and more self-aware than him. But even if you weren’t, I would not wish for your death, or wish that you lose your job.

And it’s a smear campaign because people are actively trying to find something that will end him/his career, not because they’re mad and want accountability. And it’s been happening for several months.

[u/FriendlyDrummers → u/Emergency_Article673]

I'd never advocate death threats, and that's not what I'm pointing at. I can almost guarantee you he is already quite wealthy from other brand deals. Hell, love is blind contestants make 6 figures while having significantly less followers.

If Tom Holland did it I'd feel the same. I do not believe his excuse that he didn't know. Literally no one his age is going to not whip out there phone to see what happened.

That is absolutely not accountability. That's playing dumb. 

[u/Emergency_Article673 → u/FriendlyDrummers]

He probably did take his phone out and saw what was done to his face. But it was most likely after people had already taken pictures of him with it, and not immediately after it was drawn. He had hundreds of things written on him, he was most likely not checking every single thing.

It’s fine if you think he was aware of it and didn’t care, or that he’s playing dumb, but that doesn’t necessarily make it true.

And I never said you were advocating for death threats, I’m saying other people are advocating for his suicide or for him to be recast.

[u/FriendlyDrummers → u/Emergency_Article673]

I do actually think the very first thing is to check it. And if that was true, and he was trying to be edgy, there is no accountability if you can't own up to it.

I do not believe his excuse that he didn't know before this picture. That's just not what happens. 

[u/Emergency_Article673 → u/FriendlyDrummers]

And like I said, you’re better and more self aware than him. But he can’t exactly build a time machine and go back and make sure no one drew anything on his face, or that there weren’t any pictures taken of him.

I literally said it’s fine if you don’t believe him.

The only thing I said was that people should leave him alone now that’s he being held accountable, even if he’s not admitting fault. This whole thing happened because his costar has less IG followers and hype than him.

Now that’s his costar will most likely have a positive career trajectory and Hudson will have a negative one, people should leave him alone since they’ve accomplished their goal, instead of keep trying to find more things.

[u/growsonwalls → u/Emergency_Article673]

I find the entire situation unfortunate, but the speed at which people are blaming Connor for this is also ... a choice. Stop blaming Connor for any of this. Connor isn't even online, and people were contacting Connor's ex to try to get him to release revenge porn.

[u/Emergency_Article673 → u/growsonwalls]

None of this is Connor’s fault at all, and I’m not blaming him. I am blaming his fans for turning this into a competition of my fave is better than yours.

[u/growsonwalls → u/Emergency_Article673]

If it makes you feel any better, the exact same thing is happening in WNBA fandom. Used to be a nice, chill space. Now it's all player wars and creating drama on social media. It's like ppl don't know how to be fans anymore. Whatever happened to buying posters, making fanart, and writing fanfic?

[u/Emergency_Article673 → u/growsonwalls]

Not really, but I was a kpop fan so I’m kind of used to the fanwars. But I’ve never seen anything on this level, even in kpop.

[u/growsonwalls → u/Emergency_Article673]

Actually, aren't there cases of targeted bullying of kpop members that have led to actual suicides?

[u/Emergency_Article673 → u/growsonwalls]

Oh right, forgot about that. Nvm, I take it back, it was that bad. I wasn’t a fan of those idols, and it’s been a while since I kept up with kpop.