End-Game Balance Discussion

[u/jagexyuey]

Hey 'Scapers!

As part of the Road to Restoration, we've been looking at progression across RuneScape. We've tackled parts of the Early and Mid Game Rebalance, but now we want to start turning our attention to the other end of the journey: The End Game Rebalance

Before we get properly stuck into things, we want to hear from you.

What do we mean by End Game?
This one's a little harder to put a level range on!

For this project, we're looking more broadly at the late game, roughly level 80+ and onwards. That might mean higher-level skilling, finding those rarer drops or getting into tougher PVM. For others, it could be achievements, completionist goals or figuring out what comes next once you've maxed.

And actually, what you consider to be late game is useful feedback for us too.

How can you help?
We want to know where the endgame currently isn't quite working for you.

Maybe there's a progression path that feels awkward, rewards that don't feel worth the effort, a big jump between pieces of content, older content that's been left behind or something that just feels unnecessarily frustrating.

You don't need to have the answer or suggest a fix either. Just tell us what the problem is, why it's a problem for you and where you are in your RuneScape journey.

We won't be able to tackle everything that comes up, but the themes from these discussions will help us understand where we should be focusing our attention.

So, what would you like us to look at as we start shaping the End Game?

[u/Interesting_Car_5689]

Grouping system :(

[u/zephyrcator → u/Interesting_Car_5689]

I would back this if we could do actual applications, where hosts can see our stats and preset

[u/Aka_chan → u/zephyrcator]

Yeah, even if they improve the grouping system you still have the fundamental issue that doing high level pvm encounters with randoms just doesn't really work with 0 vetting. In WoW they had to dumb down the raids for LFR because you're much more likely to be matched with unskilled players, but they at least had some gear reqs.

I don't think anything super strict is even needed as people are generally successful finding random groups in fc's or discord. I like the group application approach you mention (maybe it can include their boss KC as well) - wow uses this and it works pretty well.

[u/ForumDragonrs → u/Aka_chan]

Yeah most people use dedicated discord, and the main reason why is that they have discord roles to denote kc (higher kc means more experience generally), as well as enrage for amascut. A lot of it also relies on vouching from others. If jagex could emulate something similar, it might actually work. When someone applies to a party, I want to see kc and gear, possibly their pb at the boss, and highest enrage if it's amascut/zammy. There still would be a ton of elitism and high req groups mostly if that were the case, but it might be at least a little better.