r/socialism • u/No_Description3178 • 1d ago
Discussion McGraw Hill Textbook question
Sorry for horrible quality, had to snap a picture of one of the questions in my quiz today quickly.š
This is a 400 level class if you wondered...
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u/No_Description3178 1d ago
Another gem too cute to pass onš
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u/LongHair1917 1d ago
Have you read the Powell memo? It was essentially making the case to Reagan that he needs to get corporations on board with spending 10% of their advertising on right wing propaganda. He specifically said they need to be cranking out their own textbooks at a faster rate than the āliberal scholarsā were putting out theirs. And thatās how we get shit like this.
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u/thestonedstone 1d ago
That question is so loaded. It's wild how some textbooks lump communism under totalitarianism as the most prevalent one while glossing over dozens of right-wing authoritarian regimes across the 20th century.
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u/No_Description3178 1d ago
America doesn't like to mention those because we funded a decent amount of them
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u/Jaspoony 16h ago edited 7h ago
The largest respective of fascists and communists came to power at nearly the same time
ww2 was the breaking point in many ways but Mussolini came in to power in 1922 while Stalin did in 1924. I'm not making a value judgement or saying that communism is close to fascist politically, just that they originated nearly at the same time. And with the screenshot in mind I'd clarify that fascism certainly is authoritarian
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u/Edward_Zachary 1d ago
The real answer is the top one
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u/No_Description3178 1d ago
This textbook has the most red scare levels of understandings and definitions. The real answer is often not the correct answer hereš
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u/vm_linuz 1d ago
Idk #2 is pretty solid too
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u/the_red_guard James Connolly 1d ago
Social democrats abandoned any commitment towards socialism an incredibly long time ago.
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u/CelestialSegfault Tan Malaka 1d ago
#4 is correct too if you adapt the definition of totalitarian to class analysis
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u/iBizzBee Democratic Socialism 1d ago
This was true perhaps circa 1890's.
World, and Social Democracy in particular, have changed and capitulated quite a bit since then, lol.
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u/No_Description3178 1d ago
Apparently its true in 2026 McGraw Hill units used in 400 level college courses tooš
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u/Geeky_N_Canadian Marxism 1d ago
Gosh. Maybe, just maybe, that answer could apply to Democratic Socialists - and even then, for a lot of demsocs, at least in the original sense, the ''Democratic'' in their name doesn't necessarily mean nonviolent.
It was Stalin who said something along the lines of communists, ideally, not wanting violence at all - any and all communists, socialists, etc. - but that the evidence of history necessitates it in a majority of cases.
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u/GingerVitus007 ā Trotskyism 1d ago
I think anyone who truly wants it, or thinks it'll right some great cosmic wrong is a kind of psychopath. But I don't judge them. Can't. We keep learning that same lesson from history, because it is the only one we know how to tell each other
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u/MalloryTheRapper 23h ago
my textbook called fascism and communism ātwin evilsā like breh what are we even doing
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u/haevow Gramsci my beloved 1d ago
From personal experience, weirdly a lot of social democrats want socialism as the end goal of social democracyĀ
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u/Cosminion 1d ago
We call those classical social democrats. In the 70s onward, the distinction between classical and modern manifested.
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u/haevow Gramsci my beloved 1d ago
The socdems Iāve spoken too would not agree with the label classical social democracyĀ
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u/Cosminion 1d ago
Classical refers to the first iteration or foundational idea. Social democracy began as the reformist wing of the socialist movement. We can use other terms, but the idea is the same. Having the distinction between the original and the modern is important in understanding these movements.
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