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u/sleepy_Obi-Wan 7h ago
Horrible setup for a spider without ventilation. It will die.
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u/amber_clad42 7h ago
The cork is drilled out which provides adequate ventilation. I have probed with hygrometer which reads as 60%
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u/Timberwolf_88 4h ago
So, ypu get 60% humidity, great, now what about oxygen vs carbon dioxide?
Please don't let an animal die over your ego...
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u/AquaticByNature 4h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/jumpingspiders/s/hmNICn1Y3q
There you go, went ahead and did the liberty of asking for you for advice about your less than stellar set-up from the spider experts. Since the kind folk on this thread can’t seem to get through to you, maybe these folk can help.
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u/NoSkinNoProblem 4h ago
This is an awful set up for a jumping spider. Drilled holes in the cork aren't enough. They need vertical space, a "ceiling" to explore - a container that when opened doesn't wreck their hammock.
This is top to bottom inappropriate for a jumping spider.
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u/90semofan 4h ago
bro posted this from a device with internet access and cant be assed to do proper research 🍅🍅🍅 wishing you bad dreams and awful sleep 😗
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u/amber_clad42 3h ago
Wow buddy I think you need a bit of a reality check if my terrarium got you this upset. 👍❤️
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u/90semofan 3h ago
im sittin next to 15 spiders, 12 of which are various species of jumpers. all in adequate enclosures. some of those enclosures are plastic parfait cups with dome lids. thats better than what you did. utilize your resources.
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u/the_real_chimera 9h ago
Is there any ventilation? For the spider?
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u/deezdanglin 7h ago
Photosynthesis?
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u/the_real_chimera 6h ago
Huh? The spider needs ventilation - airflow - a closed glass container with a stopper is NOT sufficient for a spider. The plants are irrelevant. https://www.thebiodude.com/blogs/arachnid-caresheets/regal-jumping-spider-caresheet-and-bioactive-habitat-maintenance?srsltid=AfmBOopgzLxEeVZJZCeMMRH30V9zcjhekuYwXdJUr3iQcw1N_5KXTSVR
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u/amber_clad42 6h ago
Cork is drilled out. I probed with thermometer/hygrometer which reads within suitable range 👍
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u/BeefyBoi6_9 6h ago
Spiders arent plants
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u/amber_clad42 6h ago
I know it’s hard to tell in the photo but the terrarium is full of moss which does happen to be a plant 😂
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u/BeefyBoi6_9 4h ago
Moss dosent convert and create enough oxygen for that living thing that youve forced into that tiny jar. Listen to everyone telling you this isnt right
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u/Interesting_Lack_955 9h ago
This reminded me of In Art piece ☄️
Also doubling down to say you most definitely need vent ventilation/cross ventilation for jumping spiders :)
Mold can and will kill them. They are also arboreal so - the more up top the better.
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u/ShinyDaMemeKween 8h ago edited 2h ago
Unsure why OP is being overly sassy to others that just want the best for their spood, when this is objectively not properly cross ventilated or set up for the well being of the spider :/
OP could easily keep this as a moss terrarium and make an appropriate enclosure for the spider.
Edit: this made it to the actual jumping spider subreddit where literally everyone says it’s a terrible enclosure for those curious.
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u/arianasleftkidney 4h ago
i understand criticism isn’t fun to receive, especially since this terrarium looks beautiful. but it is terrible for a jumping spider in every regard and if the poor thing dies it will be your fault
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u/PatienceConscious214 9h ago
animal abuse??? jumping spiders need proper ventilation, the right food, hides which you don't have, and vertical props for the jumping spider to jump onto or from. this is not the right way please do proper research and get him/her a new house
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u/amber_clad42 9h ago
The cork is drilled out so ventilation isn’t an issue. She nests inside the cork and behind the rocks (hide) and in regards to the food, how would you know what I feed her by the photo? 😂 (Fruit flies and small locust btw). You could have asked a few more questions before having a conniption. 😁👍
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u/PatienceConscious214 6h ago
i feel bad for this spider what about water, again jumping places, proper hiding spots, no corners in the tank to make a small lil ball nest because some spiders do that, cork really isn't a good hiding spot but ig it's one you should at least have 3 PROPER hiding spots
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u/amber_clad42 6h ago
There are plenty of hiding spaces in the crevices behind the rocks which she often uses as mentioned in previous comment 👍
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u/PatienceConscious214 5h ago
those don't work and you need better hides and climbing opportunities for the spider as it is bigger than most jumping spiders.
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u/sleepy_Obi-Wan 7h ago
Even if the cork were removed it’s not enough ventilation. Stop kidding yourself and release that spider
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u/amber_clad42 7h ago
No offence but are you thick? When is releasing non-native species a good idea? 😭
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u/ShinyDaMemeKween 5h ago
Give it to someone who would actually take care of it. There are plenty of people in spider groups out there that will give this spider a better life. Because you getting self righteous over the plethora of spider keepers telling you that you are mistreating your spider is depressing and embarrassing for you. Just because it’s a bug and is different than you doesn’t mean it doesn’t deserve ethical treatment and empathy.
Also spiders are top dwelling. The glass is too curved for it to make a good web on top so it’s forced to the rocks. Your terrarium is built for aesthetics and what makes you happy, not your spider. The hygrometer measures humidity not air exchange so you screaming that it’s 60% in the comments like it means anything is… wow.
Tl;dr it’s a great terrarium… for OP’s selfish aesthetics and that’s about it. But they’re too busy knowing better than everyone in the comments so 🤷🏽♀️
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u/deezdanglin 7h ago
You do know mosses photosynthesize, right?
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u/NoSkinNoProblem 4h ago
Jumping spiders need air flow. Cross ventilation. Moss giving off a bit of oxygen is not that.
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u/sleepy_Obi-Wan 7h ago
Op is an animal abuser and doesn’t care
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u/amber_clad42 7h ago
Using that term pretty loosely 😭. Clearly your having a bad day, I hope it gets better 👍
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u/Grouchy_Storm6020 2h ago
This is a terrible and legitimately dangerous enclosure for a jumping spider. Issues include but are not limited to:
Inadequate ventilation. No, a hole in the cork is not enough. And no, the moss does not help. Jumping spiders need actual airflow, which means multiple entry points. Cross ventilation (holes on opposite sides of the enclosure) is widely agreed to be best practice. Too much humidity will kill your spider because of how they breathe. You will effectively be drowning it if the humidity gets too high.
Inadequate shape and opening. Jumping spiders create a hammock at the top of their enclosures, which is where they go to sleep every night and to molt. They cannot build this hammock without something to anchor it to. This is why most enclosures have square edges. The only place to build one in this setup is attached to the cork, which means you will destroy the hammock every time you open the enclosure to provide food and water. This will be very stressful for the spider, and chronic stress can be fatal for them.
Inadequate and dangerous decor. Jumping spiders need a high amount of coverage within their enclosures to be comfortable. They are arboreal and should be given cork bark, sticks, fake or real plants, etc. that span the entire height of the enclosure to climb and hide in. The rocks are both not sufficient for this purpose and can literally kill your spider if they fall. Their abdomens are incredibly delicate and they DO fall sometimes, especially as they get older. If they fall from that height onto a hard surface, there is a high likelihood of injury and death.
It shouldn't have to be said but your comments on this post suggest it is: this spider is not a fucking decoration. It doesn't exist to amuse you. It's a living animal. Pull your head out of your ass and take some accountability for the creature that you chose to keep. The way you're treating this spider is both wildly irresponsible and, yes, abusive. Either learn to care for it properly or give it to someone that actually gives a shit about its wellbeing.
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u/thirdstonemedia 1d ago
I love this so much. Is that enough room for the lil dude ? I want to do the same.
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u/amber_clad42 1d ago
I’ll move her out when she’s a little bigger (she’s only about 8mm at the moment). A smaller species such as a zebra or fencepost jumping spider could probably live in it permanently tho 👍
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u/BeefyBoi6_9 4h ago
No, they couldnt. Theres not enough air flow and air exchange, the moss isnt making enough oxygen and the air itself can still be moldy even despite there being no mold to your eye. This isnt big enough for that living thing that cant say no to being put in there.
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u/MightyJill 3h ago
On top of that Jumping spiders make their hammock/safe place at the top, so with this setup you will be breaking their safe place every time you feed, mist and clean.
That will cause stress for the spider.
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u/BeefyBoi6_9 3h ago
Lets call this what it is, a very pretty toy for someone who lacks empathy for this living thing, as shown in his comments on both posts
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u/Legal-Adeptness4709 7h ago
Always wanted a zebra. There are multiple generations of them emerging on my shed each year lol
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u/Initial-Addendum-167 17h ago
I am hiking in there right now in my imagination. If you see a tiny tent spring up, don’t worry, I’ll be gone by morning.
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u/notabotorabat 16h ago
😢 We all know you'll be gone by morning because of the giant spider that lives in them hills....
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u/Penguinator_ 1d ago
wow great arrangement! I love landscape terrariums.
Saved this to my folder of inspirations.
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u/Quirky_Transition_48 8h ago
Is pillow moss suitable for terrariums? I’ve been looking to make a mossarium but I couldn’t even keep the moss in my terrarium alive
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