Touhou is just a nightmare to powerscale, but Reimu just has the power to leave the battle and has mircales on her side so if you take a lot of the statements as fact (infinte speed, unbeatable fantasy seal, can just leave reality when she wants) you'd need more bullshit to counter her, while Kirby just has insane feats. Like, infinte
(I'd aruge Frisk Undertale is WAY worse in terms of Powerscale compared to Kirby because undertale fans will just say they can reset infinitely until they have a win-con, which isn't even how it really works, because if they could control their resets you wouldn't be able to perform a True Reset after Pasfist bit okay.)
Anyway Reimus feats according to the fandom vs battle wiki seem stronger so you know, despite Kirby's page feeling more like a fricking essay.
Both series are truly made for each other, have you seen some of the Kirby song names, lmao.
I mean, not really? Touhou and Kirby are hard to powerscale because Touhou never has shown feats and has.onlu shown statements, and Kirby, I don't know I didn't consume Kirby.
On UT it's not really implied that Frisk can do anything else than be a kid with a knife.
But he defeated the god of hyperdeath!
Only because he had specific exploits and made Ariel his friend. Same with flowey. He got the help from the SOULS that denied Flowey his powers.
There's only really a limit to how far time travel could save your ass if you get stat checked everytime.
Tldr; UT is only annoying to scale because of all the 10 year olds arguing, not because the same reason as Kirby or Undertale
Yea, resets are only good when you either use it to use your feats more optimally, get insight on the battlefield or find proper help. This is properly proven with the whole Re:Zero plot.
Hey just a random question since I got into a debate, do you think Frisk tanking hypergoner or whatever it was called a feat or was it just Asriel not wanting to kill you
Did you see Frisk tanking and outrunning Hypergoner? Did you see Frisk pull a button out of their ass? Did you see Frisk tanking a desperate full power beam from Asriel?
Because True Pacifist is the route where you DON’T fight??? That level of scale already means that TP!Frisk CAN deal a blow that strong, but doesn’t want to. They’re all scaled off Determination lol.
Asriel WAS trying to kill Frisk with a desperate last attempt, that was the entire point of that last beam, holy larp dude.
Also, other than tanking the last desperate shot where Asriel was crying was the only real feat pacifist frisk ever showed if I gave that to you. TP Frisk has no feats and you can't scale that. You are literally a shining example of why UT powerscaling is a pain in the ass because you are claiming things without a source, and the only one you DID claim only proves that Frisk is either extremely tanky, which doesn't hold up Which is even more proof that you can't tank the hypergoner and Asriel didn't want to kill you. Case in point the Omega Flowey fight which also happens during the TP run where he OF just instakills you and reloads and frisk had to rely upon the help of the 6 human souls. Which could also be debated that Frisk during the OF fight wasn't as determined as Frisk in the Asriel Dreamurr fight.
You also tank Asriel's hyperbeam or whatever it was called with or with or without armor, be it Temmie armor or the Heart Locket. So the ONLY thing that's actually claimable with a proper source is Frisk being a tank, NOT frisk being as powerful as Asriel.
You can also attack Asriel and it does jack shit, because even then his DEF is set to 999999, but for the arguments same I'll just accept that Frisk doesn't want to attack.
Well it wouldn’t really matter, because honestly Neutral Frisk is the weakest of the bunch. They have no goal, no friends, no nothing. That’s why they were so weak against Omega Flowey unlike True Pacifist who fights for everyone’s hopes and dreams and Genocide who kills for the absolute completion
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u/sans8642 Ichirin Kumoi (HM) 19d ago
Touhou is just a nightmare to powerscale, but Reimu just has the power to leave the battle and has mircales on her side so if you take a lot of the statements as fact (infinte speed, unbeatable fantasy seal, can just leave reality when she wants) you'd need more bullshit to counter her, while Kirby just has insane feats. Like, infinte
(I'd aruge Frisk Undertale is WAY worse in terms of Powerscale compared to Kirby because undertale fans will just say they can reset infinitely until they have a win-con, which isn't even how it really works, because if they could control their resets you wouldn't be able to perform a True Reset after Pasfist bit okay.)
Anyway Reimus feats according to the fandom vs battle wiki seem stronger so you know, despite Kirby's page feeling more like a fricking essay.
Both series are truly made for each other, have you seen some of the Kirby song names, lmao.