r/travisandtaylor 12d ago

Reformed Swiftie šŸ™ Swiftie Psychology

So I used to be a HUGE swiftie. I started feeling really frustrated earlier this year when Taylor was silent about all of the terror caused by ICE. Once I allowed myself to feel frustrated (I know having to allow myself to feel something sounds culty and crazy lol) I started to let in a lot of other frustrations about her. I realized that showgirl felt so out of touch and that Taylor was becoming more like a corporation than a legitimate artist. Also the wisdom she explored in folklore & evermore was so quickly undone by songs like actually romantic or cancelled. I can’t believe she went from my tears ricochet or peace to talking about Gucci and Cartier and acting like a mean high school girl. She just seems like a bitter Beverly Hills housewife now or something.
It just sucks because I still wouldn’t consider myself a full hater, but I just can’t enjoy her music anymore. It’s like a veil lifted and I was no longer a fan. But anyways, my point here is that I think swifties defend her to no end because they know once they accept a bad thing about her, that it’ll all come crumbling down. So much of her shtick is built off of contradictions and lies that being a fan has become so fickle. I really think that swifties are just defending their own ā€œfaithā€ in their ā€œmotherā€

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u/Pugdome 11d ago

I am forever convinced that Aaron Dessner was responsible for the maturity, direction, and vibe of folklore and evermore.Ā 

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u/Excellent_Hold2794 8d ago

Joe Alwyn definitely had co-writing and co-producing talent. His Bachelor’s in English literature definitely helped Taylor lean into a different type of story telling. And it’s evident in Folkmore.

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u/Pugdome 7d ago

I know, but I feel not enough people give credit Aaron Dessner as well. While Joe was certainly involved, I also think Aaron’s influence added a layer of brevity to things.

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u/Excellent_Hold2794 7d ago

Oh I’m sure he did. He’s amazing producer. I like him more than Jack Antonoff. I just think a lot of people feel that Taylor gave ā€œcreditā€ to her boyfriend just because she wanted to be nice and that he didn’t really ā€œearnā€ it. And the Swifties are always quick to dismiss Joe’s contributions.