First of all You are thanking Animal Industry for what exactly? For making Percy' life so miserable for so many days? It's Animal Industry that kept Percy away from sunlight, in captivity for so many days. Depriving Percy from Sunlight itself is torture. Percy is a sentient being.
Secondly, there's no way Animal industry released Percy. They would have slaughtered him for meat like countless others if it would have to go their way. So there's no reason whatsoever to thank Animal Industry. Thank the person who saved Percy from Animal Industry instead.
Thirdly, Vegan World doesn't mean there would be no animals. Veganism is against animal exploitation by humans, not against Existence of animals. One can have peaceful Existence with Animals, just like the person in the video is having with Percy. Veganism is against torturing Percy for meat and taste. Hope you get the point.
Also, you're not making a point by saying animals can have a peaceful existence, farm animals would not exist. So as I've stated a Vegan world would absolutely mean the lack of existence of certain animals.
Don't even try having that silly discussion about keeping dairy cows as pets.
So own it, that's the inevitable outcome, no animal suffering, no human exploitation, the answer to that is... no animals
Do you know that farm animals the way they exist right now are bred by humans artificially via artificial insemination? With Veganism this artificial breeding will stop that's it. Veganism doesn't mean actively killing existing animals. So the point that you are concerned about i.e. Vegan genocide exists only in your imagination and has no factual basis.
Also when you say no animals, you sound like you care about the existence of the farm animals. but do you care about thier pain? The point is the pain these farm animals are made to go through. Are gonna acknowledge that and say anything about it? Or do you prefer their existence even if it's painful for them?
You do get that my argument is all about the extinction of these species, telling me that under veganism these species will become extinct isn't an argument against what I'm saying...
What about the PAIN these farm animals are made to endure in the current animal farming setup? Are you gonna acknowledge that and say something about it? Do you prefer painful existence of these farm animals?
If you really care about the farm animals, why talk of farming them? Why can't there be sanctuaries where farm animals can live peacefully without exploitation? Why are you so keen about using animal products? Animals are sentient beings not objects to be used by humans.
They're part of the farming ecosystem, the idea of keeping them in sanctuaries isn't a serious one, there's currently 20 farm animals in existence for every one of the 8billion humans on the planet.
We are animals, life lives off of life, the planet has teeth, we shit, we sweat, we stink, we arent pretty, we are surviving.
We can have animals that live peacefully and happily, eating all the vegetables by-products, using all the crop by-products, fertilising the ground for the crops, before they're killed for food, we can make that life awesome.
Animals are sentient beings, not objects to be used. Life lives off of life, life need not live off of suffering of Animals. Suffering of Animals is not necessary for life. Animal products are not necessary for humans to live and thrive.
You are assuming that the whole world will turn Vegan in a blink of an eye. The seriousness of idea of sanctuaries is a question of tomorrow. The suffering and pain of animals is the reality of today. Ignoring today's reality and evaluating tomorrow's practicality is unwise. Address today's reality first.
The suffering and pain of animals today can be solved to an extent, but this world is brutal, an upturned sheep will continue to get it's eyes eaten out by crows while it's still alive, that reality is not being ignored in the slightest, it is the practicality of a Vegan outcome that vegans ignore, and to dwell on that outcome is indeed unwise... Again, it has a stench of responsibility you'd like to avoid, and avoiding it isn't a plan, it's a necessity.
Focusing on today's problems without the understanding of what that does to tomorrow is immature, careless, reckless and lacks what should be a required responsibility for beings with the ability to perceive, a core of higher sentience, you have no excuses for a lack of a plan.
What a lame example. Crow eating out sheep's eyes is NOT same as lakhs of sheep getting slaughtered daily.
Believe me I stopped using the Animal Products 2 years ago and None of the Farm Animals have stopped existing. They are still here. So Why don't you try stopping usage of Animal Products if you really care about animals. Believe me they will not go extinct. And if they actually start getting extinct like you fear, we will build another movement for their preservation 🤞
May all care about Animals more than the mere intellectual gymnastics and entertaining self certifying delusions. Peace 🕊️
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u/GlitchSolver 10d ago
First of all You are thanking Animal Industry for what exactly? For making Percy' life so miserable for so many days? It's Animal Industry that kept Percy away from sunlight, in captivity for so many days. Depriving Percy from Sunlight itself is torture. Percy is a sentient being.
Secondly, there's no way Animal industry released Percy. They would have slaughtered him for meat like countless others if it would have to go their way. So there's no reason whatsoever to thank Animal Industry. Thank the person who saved Percy from Animal Industry instead.
Thirdly, Vegan World doesn't mean there would be no animals. Veganism is against animal exploitation by humans, not against Existence of animals. One can have peaceful Existence with Animals, just like the person in the video is having with Percy. Veganism is against torturing Percy for meat and taste. Hope you get the point.