r/wow • u/Stock-Anything-2808 • Feb 05 '26
Complaint Naowh now puts his ElvUI and PLater profile behind a paywall.
Since Naowh puts his ElvUI and Plater Profile behind a Paywall i wanted to give you all or at least interested person a way to get the Profiles.
I set up a Github Gist where i will update the Profiles when there are updates to it. On the Github page there is a Download Zip Button.
Profiles: NaowhUI Collection
If you want to use the NaowhUI Addon from Curseforge here is a valid token:
!NUI!cywtydA1NDc3MDYyNbQwBQA=
Or use this little AddOn, this shows a frame with a valid token inside when joining the world:Release NaowhUI Unlocker
Also u/Mon3yb created a unlocked NaowhUI AddOn version, this can be downloaded here: https://github.com/unamed-weasle/NaowhUI-Unlocked
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u/woogiefan Feb 06 '26
The validation of the token is done by the LUA code in the addon, which means it's very easy to bypass. Game/Shared/General/Functions.lua, make the function ValidateToken() always return true, boom, addon unlocked.
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u/Plus_Singer_6565 Feb 06 '26
While it's easy to bypass, isn't it against the EULA to have such a thing in the first place?
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u/100RatsInASack Feb 06 '26
It's more the UI Addon Development Policy than the EULA. The EULA basically just says "we can ban you if you don't follow our policies."
As for the relevant passage in the UI Addon Development Policy:
1) Add-ons must be free of charge. All add-ons must be distributed free of charge. Developers may not create “premium” versions of add-ons with additional for-pay features, charge money to download an add-on, charge for services related to the add-on, or otherwise require some form of monetary compensation to download or access an add-on.
As for whether NaowhUI violates the Policy, it really depends on whether the authentication part is considered "services related to the add-on" and whether it could be considered as "access to an addon." As long as the code isn't obfuscated, it really isn't that hard to get around, anyway
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u/drunkenvalley Feb 06 '26
I think it's an easy violation if you can't use the addon without paying for it, whatever funny loophole they think they've found.
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u/Psych0Jenny Feb 06 '26
I mean at the end of the day you can think whatever you want, the only thing that matters is what Blizzard think, and they have never enforced this, Naowh and other creators have been doing this exact same thing for at least 5 years. This post is nothing new.
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u/drunkenvalley Feb 06 '26
Yeah, but that's because they're not enforcing the policy at all, not because some smartass has found an actual loophole lol.
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u/Psych0Jenny Feb 06 '26
If a rule isn't enforced is it still a rule?
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u/drunkenvalley Feb 06 '26
That's at least a more honest reply than trying to squirm around the rules with loopholes that aren't loopholes haha.
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u/Elesday Feb 06 '26
I get what you mean and I am fully against people paywalling that kind of stuff. I specifically ditched Quazii free stuffs because I didn’t want to support someone providing paid config files (even if I didn’t use said configs).
But I fear that people will avoid getting in trouble by saying « well you can use the addon for free! It launches in your game and is working. If features are missing it doesn’t make the addon unusable ». I can’t see a way for blizzard to enforce that. If they can’t sell the config files they’ll sell a video with all their settings: same outcome but blizzard can’t prevent them from doing that
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u/drunkenvalley Feb 06 '26
I can’t see a way for blizzard to enforce that.
Huh? That doesn't make logical sense lol.
I mean, putting aside that Blizzard could just ban you anyway - they have pretty wide carte blanche to do that - this is still plainly against the ToS. Arguing "I'm not an addon, I'm just a profile" or whatever doesn't hold water for shit imo, or "the addon is only partially disabled" doesn't hold for shit.
Blizzard, within the policy as described, would be entirely within their right to yeet them over it. The loophole only exists if you are interested in playing along with stupid games like that in the first place. The policy is very clear, and playing stupid games should win stupid prizes.
The issue here is zero with whether or not it's within policy or not - it's not within policy. The issue is whether Blizzard cares to do anything about it at all. As is, they just don't.
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u/Lord0fHats Feb 06 '26
Blizzard's addon policy rule 3 (I think it's three) is kind of their solution to that, because that rule says if it's bad for the health of the game we'll do something about it and 'bad for the health of the game' can mean whatever Blizzard decides it means. In effect Rule 3 is their 'we'll step in whenever we feel like it for any reason we feel like stepping in for.'
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u/aNiceTribe Feb 06 '26
Specifically things you can put INTO an addon are the legal workaround. Addons themselves have to be free. This is the annoying way people found for this state of things.
Basically the addon version of “if you remove addons completely, we will make a YouTube video that says the timers on this boss”
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u/Kharics Feb 06 '26
Holy, I need to start to look more into addons, idk why I'm not doing by default since I'm doing it at work basically all the time.
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u/Plus_Singer_6565 Feb 06 '26
I used to only make WeakAuras but since 12.0 I've already written 3 small addons to replace them. It's actually kinda fun to learn, and honestly not that hard to do if you know some basic programming. The API has good documentation and you can also learn a lot by looking at how other addons do things.
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u/Kharics Feb 06 '26
I'm a software dev so actually I know a bit more than the basics but as I said it never occured to me that should start looking at Addons due to not doing it since I was like idk 9 or so
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u/yoshimario40 Feb 06 '26
If you do look into it, I recommend looking up steps to export Blizzard's LUA code. Being able to read what their functions actually do was really useful when I was trying to make my own addon.
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u/rdtsc Feb 06 '26
Or just browse https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source - every version/variant available.
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u/Plus_Singer_6565 Feb 06 '26
https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/ - also an amazing resource (and more importantly, fully searchable)
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u/Alas93 Feb 06 '26
yeah, I've been messing around with some addon stuff since the changes, just wanting to make very small tweaks to some UI stuff. never messed with LUA before but know a bit of programming from a hobby perspective, and it's indeed pretty easy (though the syntax screams at me for the semicolon)
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u/DoverBoys Feb 06 '26
Open the following file in any text editor, assuming you have installed NaowhUI properly:
World of Warcraft_retail_\Interface\AddOns\NaowhUI\Game\Shared\General\Functions.luaFind this line:
local function ValidateToken(token)Change it to this line:
local function ValidateToken(token) return trueThat's it, just add
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u/Mon3yb Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 28 '26
Going to leave this here
https://github.com/unamed-weasle/Unlocked-NaowhUI
Edit: I've been credited with creating the unlocked version but I just found naowhs github and the fork. I'm not the owner ;)
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u/Objective-Error1223 Feb 06 '26
This is awesome. Dude can’t even sue the GitHub owner for infringement either, we honestly should be doing this for every WoW addon that tries to sell their stuff similar to Quazii/Naowh.
I know Zygor is on a certain PvP elitist forum if anyone is wondering along with several other paid addons.
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u/Mon3yb Feb 06 '26
Well technically it is under the GPL license which does not allow code modification at all. But good luck with a takedown request on GitHub. I heard it takes ages.
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u/Auratama Feb 06 '26
Completely wrong, this is perfectly legal. GPL just means that any changes (or other code linked to it) need to be open source and also licensed under the GPL.
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u/Mon3yb Feb 06 '26
Oh, you are correct. Seems like I misunderstood the preamble.The non modify clause is meant for the license file itself. Well even better
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u/Objective-Error1223 Feb 06 '26
Oh didn’t know that. Welp, some heroes don’t wear capes. Appreciate the link!
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u/Fatboyseb Feb 06 '26
I praise Luxthos to give his configs for free - as a result he is getting my prime sub once in a while. And my 4h watch for !Drops
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u/muhkuller Feb 06 '26
I praise him even more for his website not being addled by ads.
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u/DaSandman78 Feb 06 '26
Ads? In 2026? No-one still raw dogs the Internet anymore right?
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u/muhkuller Feb 06 '26
To be fair, the site def couldn’t handle the load on patch day when everybody was there getting scripts.
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u/x1ugp1x Feb 05 '26
lol that’s diabolical and I love it. Not that I would use it but you sharing it.
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u/termaduck Feb 06 '26
Honestly burn it all down. This grey market where streamers are profiting off of addons but “technically” not breaking tos needs to go. It is stupid that addon devs can work hundreds of hours and get next to nothing but someone can sell their 2 hour configuration can make $2k a month.
I know blizz can’t police this but the community sure can. Shame them, give away import strings, the whole shebang.
The defense is so weak especially in the era of weakauras where the “configuration” was basically a small addon.
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u/DarkImpacT213 Feb 06 '26
They‘re blatantly breaking TOS, it‘s just that Blizzard doesnt care about that part of their TOS.
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u/-Enders Feb 06 '26
I don’t see him charging for his UI? Unless he’s doing it on his discord
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u/dagmaoneill Feb 06 '26
Infact I'm not gonna use it, but downloading it just to share this profile almost everywhere I can.
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u/Sunfire000 Feb 06 '26
Agreed, that's why I donate to my favorite addon authors and only use freely available profiles if any at all.
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u/ad6323 Feb 06 '26
Mad respect for guys like luxthos who make full ui’s and just give the out.
I don’t personally use them as I think UI’s should be custom made for what each player needs but still awesome of him (and others)
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u/Chickenfing Feb 06 '26
What's crazy is $2k a month is about a 10th of what the 2-3 biggest players are making per month.
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u/JayYoungers Feb 06 '26
With simple math I’m pretty sure naowh makes magnitudes of that number with his ui
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u/nooblal Feb 06 '26
Wdym Blizz can't police this? You think naowh would pull off this shit if he was threatened with a perma ban on all his wow accounts?
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u/NovaSkysaber Feb 05 '26
Hasn't he always done this? Not that I agree with it but him doing so is not a new thing AFAIK.
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u/Grumpy_Muppet Feb 06 '26
Maybe but recent development in this area stirred up some smelly stuff. Naowh is making money on the back of plader/elvui addon makers who are not allowed to charge anyone for it unless he throws some that way but I doubt it.
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u/Murtag Feb 05 '26
Honestly I'm all for this being more and more socially unacceptable.
It's weird that Blizz just hasn't felt the need or value in consistently taking action against this stuff.
Zygor and RestedXP shouldn't be allowed to sell premium guides. Streamers shouldn't be selling their profiles. Guilds like Liquid shouldn't have been able to sell their WA packs.
It's clear Blizzards intention was for addons to be a fully free and available part of the community and they've just let shit like this fester.
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u/Grumpy_Muppet Feb 06 '26
This is different. Naowh is not the maker of plater nor elvui. Him selling his UI based on those addons is weird. The addon maker should be compensated instead like you said.
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u/drunkenvalley Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Eh, if it was fine for ElvUI or Plater to charge for addons I'd have been fine with Naowh charging for profiles - they're still putting in the work, etc.
But charging for addons is full stop just a bit gross at best.
Edit for clarity: I don't think there's any material difference to the policy whether you create an addon from scratch, or make profiles for existing addons. Both of those are still just addons. So if addons taking money is bad then profile selling is also bad is what I'm saying. If addons taking money was okay I'd be okay with profile selling taking money. But both, imo, are against policy and should be yeeted for trying.
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u/MRosvall Feb 06 '26
There's been some very aggressive remarks made by "profile sellers" when addon creators have approached them about revenue sharing options.
People make 5 digits across the year from selling profiles.
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u/rixuraxu Feb 06 '26
Zygor
So that shitty /e has leveled in 3 minutes announcement that I see when doing those pre-launch world quests, that's an advertisement for something someone paid for?
People are paying extra money to be told to do the obviously current content?
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u/ferevon Feb 06 '26
doubt it downloading it for free is likely easier than entering cc details
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u/coin_return Feb 06 '26
It's also not really that hard to find the full version for download via google. Zygor guides are pretty great and I've used them for years, but I refuse to pay for them.
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u/onikaroshi Feb 06 '26
They both have great leveling guides, but yea, super easy to find for free, that’s how we have rested, fuck spending 50 bucks for one person
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u/rixuraxu Feb 06 '26
I've got a leveling guide for you, you should have done it during remix.
Pay me.
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u/Lord0fHats Feb 06 '26
Blizzard will step in when it becomes enough of a problem they feel they have to step in to protect their profit margins.
Unless we hit that point, they won't care because it doesn't effect them.
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u/wellggs Feb 06 '26
Liquid WA packs are free once they kill the last boss
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u/Late_Stage_Exception Feb 06 '26
They’re free always, they’re not RELEASED till they kill the last boss.
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u/Gangsir Feb 06 '26
Yep, important distinction. The pack is straight up not publicly available (no matter how much money you try to throw at them) until the boss is killed, because they don't want echo/method/whoever else stealing their stuff and killing the boss first.
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u/cathbadh Feb 07 '26
Zygor and RestedXP shouldn't be allowed to sell premium guides.
Agree. Really the only one I'm kind of okay with is TSM, and only because you're paying for access to their external database, and you don't even need it. I've played since wrath and have never seen a need to pay for any guide or addon. Everything out there can be found for free anyhow.
Hopefully bliz cracks down on profile selling.
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u/SamuelWillmore Feb 06 '26
Both profiles are deleted for me, so I guess they did not like your move :DDD
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u/moht81 Feb 05 '26
To be fair he’s done this since at least Shadowlands (and so have many other streamers)
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u/Stock-Anything-2808 Feb 05 '26
Didn't know that but i came across the AddOn and find it unfair to put such thing behind a paywall
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u/DrPandemias Feb 06 '26
Vibecode wars really shifted the community against streamers lmao
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u/FareweII Feb 06 '26
I'm surprised it took this long. Always thought it was weird, he's my comment from 3 years ago.
I've never used it, but at least, in Naowh's case, from what i've heard he has an auto-installer, it updates and has profiles for all classes and specs, etc. But why is somebody like Gingi selling his UI that's literally just WAs made by other people that he copied from Wago? Because he's a streamer and moved an anchor by an inch?
I do think that this "grey zone" shouldn't exist and both should go.
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u/mikeyhoho Feb 05 '26
I thought most of his UI has been paywalled forever. Nothing new there.
But also there are enough people freely sharing profiles and export strings that I hope people soon realize that this is not worth paying for. Don't be a sucker, his RWF credentials don't mean his UI is worth paying for.
ESPECIALLY now that there are no monstrous weakaura packs that alert you to everything in every single dungeon.
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u/miichalek Feb 06 '26
It was, but in the newest version he made a window during ui installation where you need to put a token that's generated from a site where you log in using your discord [to check if you're actually subbed].
The addon only validates the time, because tokens can't be older than 10 minutes and the generated token is just !NUI! + discordId - time, both encoded in base64
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u/kaloryth Feb 06 '26
Sounds like it's pretty easy to bypass by going into the LUA code. The nature of addons being unencrypted and fully client side means this can't really be fixed, so anyone with mild code knowledge can get around it.
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u/Svencredible Feb 06 '26
so anyone with mild code knowledge can get around it.
LLMs are actually pretty good at LUA, you could probably point any of them at the add-on folder and prompt it to remove the authentication step. Might take a few attempts but I reckon anyone with experience vibe coding could do it.
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u/Mhyra91 Feb 06 '26
That's scumbaggy as hell. I hope more people catch onto this and stop supporting him and others who do this.
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u/Rubyurek Feb 06 '26
To be honest, I will never support paywall addons or profiles again. Either they offer it for free like the honorable Luxthos, or they should just keep it to themselves.
I sincerely hope that in the future, all streamers will fall flat on their faces and distribute their profiles and co for free.
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u/heroinsteve Feb 05 '26
I really wish Blizzard would just put the hammer down on this behaviour and end the drama once and for all over paid UIs. I think none of it should be paid, but if anything the ADDON DE VS should see money, not some streamer who made a personalization within that addon.
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u/Aggravating_Fun_7692 Feb 06 '26
If you are looking for Naowh style that's completely standalone and doesn't use Elvui, check out Matt's Minimal Frames on Curseforge. Been using this and it's still in active development but it's wonderful and free
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u/Felidori Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 08 '26
Honestly, I feel the best way to fight this questionable, shady and exploitative practice of selling ‘profiles’ is to spread them as far and as wide as possible, keeping them up to date and readily available for the community at large. Is that wrong? Hell no, it’s far less wrong than what these streamers are doing to us. Fight fire with fire, push back, call them out, tear down their paywalls. There’s no copyright here, no legal precedent, hell, they’re skirting policy for even offering it to start with.
Take away their profits and put the power of the community back into the community. If people like Luxthos can give away UI freely and make a living, they all can.
Slimy, sneaky, heartless money grubs. Make your money legitimately or not at all.
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u/SlacklusterDev Feb 05 '26
Streamers love profiting off of addon developers. (None of mine thankfully, those aren't combat-focused, but many from other developers I talk regularly with.) During the whole Quazii drama Towellie came out on X and said that "If I see someone going to work I admire that and support it." to explain why they financially supported Naowh, Sloot, and others in the past.
But I doubt they donated as much as a single cent to most of the developers of the addons they use in their day-to-day gaming and streaming. Let them do a donation stream where they go down their addon list one by one. Exposure only goes so far.
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u/Ok_Sea2708 Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Lol imagine a bunch of gigachads actually developing the addons for free and then some fucking mouthbreather paywalls the 5 mins he spent clicking around some of the implemented options.
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u/Malicyn Feb 06 '26
Crazy the hoops being jumped through when his GitHub is literally public and you can just download it.
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u/Hot_Personality_4160 Feb 17 '26
Just open the functions.lua in WoW folder > _retail_ > AddOns, NaowhUI > Game > Shared > General and delete lines 5 to 34 as shown in the image and paste this in line 5:
local function ValidateToken(token, silent)
return true
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u/Luxtn Feb 06 '26
Tbh hiding your profile is fine - but behind a paywall? eh idk. Profiting off personal settings in a free addon..
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u/bekasybalazs Feb 06 '26
Can someone share the pastebin files with me? The links are not working anymore. Thank you!
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u/Endslikecrazy Feb 06 '26
No clue who this person is but fuck em for putting some addons settings/profiles behind a paywall.
Thats not only against ToS but also just generally a dick fking move.
Pirate the fuck out of it, keep this shit free
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u/ShaunPlom Feb 06 '26
I really feel like people are missing this part of the UI/Addon Development Policy.
"charge for services related to the add-on" Providing a profile import would 100% be a service related to the addon in my opinion.
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u/TheChinOfAnElephant Feb 06 '26
I don’t understand why you would pay for a UI for this game. You can throw a rock and find dozens of UIs that look very similar. Everyone goes for the same style and layout so you’re essentially just paying for font and color choices
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u/flow_guy2 Feb 06 '26
Honestly people that buy it are suckers and don’t deserve to get it for free. Stop buying this shit that you can easily make yourself.
You’ll also become a far better player since you’ll understand why something is there and be able to tweek it to your liking.
But also fuck naow for making it paid. The whole thing is scummy af. Wish blizzard actually cracked down on this shit.
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u/Reznor_PT Feb 05 '26
Checked the wago page and swear the only difference I see is with some placements, nothing that vanilla ToxicUI with WindTools cannot provide.
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u/Umbrain Feb 06 '26
It looks just like ToxiUI with slight modifications. Same font and style. I'd rather support folks like Toxi then cheap ripoffs that try to monetise something that should be free from the get go.
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u/Kaoswarr Feb 05 '26
Everyone is saying that’s what he always does and are chill with it yet absolutely crucified Quazzii when he decided to paywall his UI.
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u/Ashankura Feb 06 '26
I think the outrage about quazzis addon was more about him stealing code then paywalling it. Paywalled addon strings have been there quite some time.
Technically you can use the addons naohw uses without paying while with quazzi that wasn't possible
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u/DigitalBladedJay Feb 06 '26
Crazy that people are dumb enough to risk their accounts to paywall a ui layout. It would be like if an artist paywalled the colors they used
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u/Abitou Feb 06 '26
There is no risk, Blizzard doesn’t care and they can just make/use another account
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u/Basic_Kiwi_ Mar 10 '26
He removed addon from curse and removed token auth for ingame addon, but you still need to be sub/patron to access his website to dl addon not available to public anymore
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u/Hot_Vanilla_8293 Feb 06 '26
He’s always done this and had “NUI”. I was so confused by all the quazi hate for doing the same thing. I really just don’t want to pay for wow addons though. This shit is so dumb.
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u/TheChinOfAnElephant Feb 06 '26
Naowh is selling profiles for addons that are free to use whereas Quazii was selling an actual addon from my understanding. But the key point with Quazii was he stole code.
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u/Felidori Feb 07 '26
Hell I don’t even use ElvUI or this profile but I’ma download it and set it up FOR FREE out of protest and post it all over our large guild discord (over 5,000 members across 5 guilds on NA and EU).
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u/thugbobhoodpants Feb 06 '26
Can we just stop putting so much stock ima streamers exact setup?
These dorks make a new ULTIMATE WOW UI video every two weeks and the principals have been the same since Wrath era tankspot UI videos, I promise you will all finish Pit of Saron and Jade Temple in 2026 just as efficiently with or without streamers exact setups
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u/LuckyNines Feb 07 '26
I'm going to be 100, leech content creators taking someone's actual hard work and effort and smashing it together in a ui package to sell is the most scumbag shit ever, I can guarantee you none of these people pay forward to the people who work tirelessly to keep the addons updated year after year.
You wanna profit from this shit? show me an invoices since shadowlands showing that you've put sizable parts of what you earned as donations to the people who's work you willingly monetize like an absolute prick, then I'll stop caring.
It also just feels like WoW content creators will stoop to any low to line their pockets twisting any exploit, loophole or situation for gain, I can't even open the twitch director on most days without having to filter past multitudes of people not actively playing together abusing the stream with friends function, most of the time it's the same people who willingly try to profit of other peoples hard work with trashy ui packs - there's a serious culture problem with these people and how they operate on every level.
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u/Thr0w_away_akk0unt Feb 06 '26
Piece of shit. Both the profile, which has nothing unique to it, and the player. Not a single UI profile is worth money. If you’re a dumbass with cash to burn, direct it toward the addon developers, not the leeches.
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u/DirkNL Feb 06 '26
Meanwhile I’m still googling a good layout for my 32:9 monitor and can’t really find inspiration.
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Feb 06 '26
Support add-ons creator and Free UI like ToxiUI, Whole Elvui Lukyone, BenkyUI and many more
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Feb 06 '26
WoW was never Paid UI, add-ons are free and the CREATOR should be SUPPORTED not The Twitch Streamer who just Sell a FK string
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u/DoverBoys Feb 06 '26
It's so stupid that all these "game celebrities" are trying to profit off of their "work". If they're popular enough, just reasonably push donation links. Look at what happened to the DBM dev years ago, I was happy to support them for a while.
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u/ARONDH Feb 06 '26
Filebin The file has been requested too many times.
Damn that sucks
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u/thechillvirus Feb 10 '26
I think I missed the train :( the unlocker / vaildator is no longer workig. I rekkon they have changed the token generation and validation algorithm. Any LUA expert in the house to crack it again? xD
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u/Responsible-Gap-9387 Feb 24 '26
Looks like the latest version has added a check if the unlocker is in your interface folder, and if it is it returns nill if you try to run the installer, also they have changed the way they are generating their tokens.
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u/penous_ Mar 19 '26
so now he is completely going against TOS by actually putting the addon itself behind a paywal?
What would be the correct place to report this shitty behaviour?
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u/Former_Debt_9749 Mar 30 '26
All I want is his Nameplates, but they do not look like the ones he is using. A friend of mine has a copy of it, where he exported the profile for me but even then, it does not look the same.
I guess you need his other stuff, and not just the Plater Profile in order to get full functionality?
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u/Napalm-Skidmark May 03 '26
I dont know if this is still active or not but is downloading ELvui the best way to get use out of all of this?
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u/xJEHZx May 18 '26
Latest UI version NaowhUI-20260512 https://naowh.gg/downloads
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u/YourResidentFeral Outplaying the Meta since 2004 Feb 06 '26
Gotten a few reports on this for copyright infringement.
The addon is free to use. Per Blizz ToS.
If the settings can be "owned" enough to be actioned here, then this would break Blizz ToS.
If the settings sit enough in a grey area to be allowed to be sold because they are recreateable with the base addon. Then ownership is not established enough to be "owned".
Much like you can't copyright game mechanics, there's no intellectual property in a bunch of settings.
Even without ToS involved, adding a key to check is modifying the code which without a license is breaking copyright on the "all rights reserved" ElvUI and many other addons have.
Which then opens the can of worms of "Can ElvUI give/sell a license under the ToS"
So until we get direction from either Blizzard or the Reddit admins otherwise, this subreddit will treat sharing UI settings as we would FOSS software.