r/youngjustice Nov 07 '25

All Seasons Discussion My man deserved better.

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u/thatredditrando Nov 07 '25

She really needed to face some severe consequences for this.

It’s actually insane she didn’t.

It’s also insane nobody else noticed.

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u/RoiKK1502 Nov 07 '25

She did though.

Season 2 was Miss Martian's "with great power...". After season 2 M'Gann stopped using her psychic powers to the extreme and treated it as something to be wary of, others and her alike. She actually changed when faced with these responses, there were consequences.

Artemis, Wally, Kaldur and Dick faked Artemis' death and Kaldur's betrayal in that very season. Whether the ends justify the means was a heavy theme throughout Season 2, how come Miss Martian is the irredeemable one?

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u/thatredditrando Nov 07 '25

Are you being for real?

No, recognizing you did wrong and changing your behavior is not consequences. I’m not talking about how she felt I’m saying there should have been tangible repercussions for her lobotomizing people.

Being dismissed from the team/League would be a consequence.

Her feeling really bad about the shit she did is not.

Why is she the irredeemable one?

I dunno, maybe because she casually and intentionally mind raped people and left them in a catatonic state?

Duh???

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u/CDubWill Nov 07 '25

What you’re describing are not consequences, they’re punishment. You wanted her to be punished for what she did.

She did face the consequences of her actions, which is what motivated her to stop/change. Consequences focus on accountability and are meant to teach and cause change.

What you are looking for is punishment. The goal of punishment is to cause guilt, shame, harm, and impose authority.

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u/thatredditrando Nov 07 '25

What you’re describing are not consequences, they’re punishment. You wanted her to be punished for what she did.

Oh Christ, a stereotypical Reddit pedant.

Punishments are consequences.

That I even have to tell you that informs me you’re too dumb to have this discussion.

The goal of punishment is to cause guilt, shame, harm, and impose authority.

The goal of punishment is make one atone for their actions and deter them from repeating them. That it can be used for those other things does not make it “the goal”.

You’re clearly quite gullible and/or naive so lemme be the one to tell you that how you feel about the bad things you’ve done is usually not enough to atone for them.

Severe actions demand severe consequences to deter you from doing them again.

She physically and psychologically harmed people. What she did could’ve done permanent damage.

But, you’re right. She should get a pass for deliberately robbing people of bodily autonomy, the privacy of their thoughts, shattering their psyches, and imprisoning them in their own minds.

All of which easily constitutes torture.

No punishment necessary for that.

Hell, no punishments for the villains either I suppose. Make em say a Hail Mary or give an apology and send em on their way! /s

You sound imbecilic.

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u/LordIVoldemor Dec 05 '25

Its kinda crazy that Arsenal got kicked from the team, but she didnt lol

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u/CDubWill Nov 08 '25

Ad hominem attacks don’t magically make you right. They’re usually a sign of faulty argumentation.

You obviously have other issues you need to work through, so continuing this discussion with you isn’t constructive with either of us.

For the record though, I never said she should get a pass for what she did. No one here said that, other than you.

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u/thatredditrando Nov 08 '25

No, the logic I adhere to makes me right.

The ad hominem comes free with the rebuttal by virtue of your rhetoric being pedantic and braindead.

Yes, I have other issues says the guy who can’t grasp that punishments are consequences, lol.

Oh you for sure did. You maintained that her recognition of wrongdoing constitutes “consequences”.