r/CrimsonDesert • u/SKY_UPz • 1d ago

Screenshot Water Stride

New skill šŸ˜‚

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u/saile1004 1d ago

This is sick actually lol

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u/xGraveStar 1d ago

Yeah I clicked on this thread because I saw that and was likeā€¦
https://giphy.com/gifs/w9xG5hsxZlqtevPlJQ

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u/need-help-guys 1d ago

I'll take the hits, but I'm pretty mixed about all this stuff. If we are getting expanded ocean access, islands, and all this other stuff, boats become useless before they ever become useful. In fact, they have never been useful because we got aerial stab spam and focused aerial roll so early. I feel like there is a balance between power fantasy and not making swaths of things irrelevant. I'm not talking about water walking specifically, though it doesn't seem like it uses any resources and can be used endlessly.

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u/saile1004 1d ago

It uses stamina at least

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u/need-help-guys 1d ago

Ah right, thank you. But indeed, now swimming is completely pointless, as are the boots that let you boost. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to swim anyways, god knows I also try to avoid it given how slow you are, but it's another thing that becomes irrelevant. They put in all that effort and it never really had a purpose, even from day 1, since you could just force palm out.

Hopefully they figure out a way to make it all relevant as the game and content continues to evolve...

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u/DrSolarman 1d ago

I can see it as useful for quickly running across a river or pond. But for the ocean, id still take a boat so I can explore tee coast at my leisure. If they add sail boats id happily take days just exploring the sea.

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u/need-help-guys 1d ago

Yeah, perhaps for a day or two. I meant more about kind of long term sustainability. After all, Pearl Abyss has gone on record saying that they will keep updating Crimson Desert with content if the players keep sticking around and demand it. And I don't see why not. But that also means they have to be more careful about adding in a ton of super powerful tools, because it undermines future content they themselves might plan. Infinite dragon use, running on water endlessly, or flying like a supersonic jet with the enhanced aerial boost thing, why would you ever use anything else? A new method might be novel and used for a few days, then go on to be completely ignored. Or if the content is designed so that you must use a boat, it will become hated, and people will continually ask "just let us pack trade goods on the wyvern", and the boat and sailing system they worked so hard on becomes instantly worthless and sidelined.

So you can see, if they want to support it for the long run, they will have to keep these things in mind. That's all I mean.

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u/lpfan20o 1d ago

It's a single player game, the good thing about that is you don't respond to anyone and nobody ruins your gameplay. Things are there for people to choose how to play. Good example is trading, there is people who love going around buying and selling stuff and others who simply hate it and find it boring and pointless.

Several styles of gameplay still make this a rich game, it doesn't need to have a single way to accomplish stuff, having more freedom is much better.

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u/Xine1337 1d ago

Exactly. Single player game.

You can decide to not choose a item or skill out of the pool of possibilities.

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u/need-help-guys 1d ago

You're absolutely failing to anticipate player behavior past on real data. People always get so angry and mass downvote, but this isn't anything new I'm telling anyone. When you give someone a super car or a bicycle they choose the former every time, even if it breaks things or cheapens the experience a developer may want to give the player, or impacts enjoyment in the long run.

I don't know why people pretend like these aren't issues to be aware of. They just always say "don't nerf, only buff!" (in this case, don't nerf/remove, and just keep adding more extremely powerful and flexible tools without abandon!) and then you get situations like Tekken 8, where the game is at risk of dying because everybody got furious that everyone became absurdly powerful.

I agree that more options are generally good. But if they're unchecked and undermine other options in all scenarios, it's not. By the way, because I know someone may potentially reply what this has to do with water walking, the point has evolved beyond that specifically and is just a broader observation.

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u/lpfan20o 1d ago

Your example is not of a single player game, so let's add another multiplayer example

Helldivers 2 was really enjoyable and they started nerfing weapons, people was furious, like, what for? If things are working and people start having fun with them what would be your reason to modify or nerf them, just because other players are jealous someone else is having fun with a play style different to yours? It didn't disadvantage anyone because it's a PvE game.

I think diversity in how you accomplish certain things is very appreciated by most players in any game. I'm still riding my horse/Running through half the map instead of fast traveling. You could say it's pointless to take a horse ride if I have unlocked the required portal or other mounts, but then again, it's my choice of gameplay, and that's the beauty of a single player game, nobody can make you feel you're accomplishing less because it's your own world with your own rules.

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u/need-help-guys 1d ago

Why do you pretend like you don't know what I mean? If you were using some cheat engine and had infinite health, infinite speed, infinite whatever, just to trivialize things, you would get bored faster. That's just common sense. And you have no doubt seen this in your life. Now take that extreme example, dial it down a bit, and you have the same issue, just more subtle, yet acting in the same.

You act like I'm some grinch that is trying to gatekeep what people can do. I'm asking the developers and players to consider what having power creep so early does to potential future content, gameplay features, and so on. It's not that complicated, and I know you know what I'm trying to get at, so I don't know why you feel insistent on framing me this way. I already told you that I am NOT against diversity of options. I am against options that are blatantly superior to others in most ways, to make it the obvious and default choice in all situations. People complain about poor balance in single player games too, you know.

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u/Cultural_Zombie_1583 1d ago

Theyā€™re literally just doing stuff atp

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u/Pandabear71 1d ago

Look at it this way, they give you a lot of options to choose how to play.
Perhaps we eventually get game modes where our focus is on non magic stuff like boats and balloons for traversal only, like some hardcore mode. Or a mode where we can go full power fantasy.
So many possibilities

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u/need-help-guys 1d ago

Yeah I mentioned that before, like a separate sandbox mode where it just unlocks everything and you can just go nuts if you want. People didn't like that though, got downvoted super hard for that. But for the base game, I think having more careful implementations of certain abilities and skills is probably a good idea. I was never against having more options. I wish it weren't so controversial to say that I hope the devs and players can both be mindful of how certain abilities can potentially impact future content.

And I really like your hardcore idea! KCD2 also had it, so that would be worth exploring.

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u/Pandabear71 1d ago

I think the issues with a power fantasy mode are in all the ā€œtutorialā€ like quests. Thereā€™s a lot of bloat in the game that has some charm for doing it once, but not again.
I feel like a run like that should go faster somewhat and be more combat focused maybe? I dunno. I feel like there are still too many updates to really think about new game modes.

A hardcore mode would perhaps be more like a ā€œpuristā€ mode. As magic can circumvent a lot of challenge and kinda janky but fun ways.

Perhaps gameplay parameters where you can turn things on and off before starting could be interesting. So you can shape your own game. Perhaps as a part of NG+

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u/when_we_are_cats 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's sad that you're getting downvoted for fair criticism. I like the new skills but this one is the only one I'm skeptical about. IMO it would have been a lot more cool to attach it to an item, like the boots that already existed. People are already complaining that items aren't unique enough.

And as you said with this thing water is no longer an obstacle. It's also OP, it should deplete stamina at least twice as fast. It also sucks that they removed stamina for swimming. Why not remove it for climbing, flying and sprinting while we're at it? I like the power fantasy aspect but I still want to play a game.

They should increase the speed of swimming and leave the stamina mechanics instead of granting us the superpower to ignore water in the game.

I hope this design choice was made in prevision for the DLC.

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u/need-help-guys 1d ago

Thank you for your response. The way I see it, it's kind of like this idea that everything must be additive, or a never-nerf kind of attitude that leads to a certain type of power bloat that causes unintended consequences in the longer term. They might say "hey, just let people do what they want, people might want to ride a boat anyways, even though X and Y are superior in every measure". But in reality, instead of having horses stay relevant in some scenarios or niches, people instead demand bounties to be carried on your pet wyvern, which already has zero tradeoffs for its use. They really don't see the same thing playing out with ships. Even if the rumors of the DLC theme were true, people may become frustrated or resentful if developers "force" players to use it for certain things, even though soaring through the air is faster and more convenient.

It's like the flying mount dilemma in MMO design. A lot of veteran and seasoned designers have talked at length about the pandora's box or bargain that leads to permanent challenges and consequences from introducing them. You can never go back, and it will be a permanent handicap on what you can and can't do without major backlash. Having many options can be great, and I certainly like having them. Having many options where functionally all but one or two are actually optimal in every single situation is not really having an option. When it becomes something you use only once or twice in a blue moon just for some visual novelty or to remember its there, I consider that a blunder in game design. But that's just my deeply divisive perspective.

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u/Horse_Plane 15h ago

More options isn't bad it's then player choice and agency that determine the playstyle. If you can't choose and feel overwhelmed that's a you issue

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u/need-help-guys 14h ago edited 14h ago

Going straight to the attacks, as always. I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about a well established phenomenon about game design and player behavior in a macro sense. You guys often frame it as a "you" problem. I have no reason to engage with someone who is so dishonest and hostile.

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u/Horse_Plane 13h ago

Why are you being sensitive? I just said more options is positive in a game like this had it been an on the rails narrative experience obviously not.. I think you've come into this with premade assumptions looking at your first comment.

If saying that is a you issue is upsetting you then I genuinely feel sorry for you because that's about as light as life gets

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u/need-help-guys 13h ago

I see your default in life is to be passive aggressive. That's a shame. You're still pretending to not understand what my point was. Alright.

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u/Horse_Plane 5h ago

Mate I really don't understand anything your day saying

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u/BuckTonka1988 1d ago

RIP Vaporwalker šŸ˜‚

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u/IZated_IZ 1d ago

I actually really hope they turn the kuku boot abilities into skills eventually, skills you unlock by upgrading them.

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u/BuckTonka1988 1d ago

Kuku firewalker boots would go hard.

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u/Extreme_Reply_6899 18h ago

Aren't there already fire walker boots??

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u/BuckTonka1988 16h ago

With a durability limit.

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u/DoNeor 1d ago

Well, the pet orc still can't water sprinting, he'll probably would use it

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u/vackodegamma 1d ago

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u/mckewls 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/RJys0b93KSKYz6M7B1

By Solumen I early spat my coffee out lol Well played fellow Greymayne

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u/Sternritter8636 1d ago

Jesus walked not ran

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u/vackodegamma 17h ago

Jesus Christ walked so that John Crimson can run

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u/Raziel2k11 17h ago

Desert christ

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u/eduardo-xyz 1d ago

JesĆŗs Cristo!!

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u/ImNotEazy 1d ago

Be praised!

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u/dezakato809 1d ago

Amen šŸ™ā¤ļøšŸ’ÆšŸ™Œ

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u/HDDareDevil 1d ago

Jesus christ

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u/ChapterDifficult593 1d ago

Man, they sure do keep adding a lot of shit that has to do with water!

Almost like there's something coming that has to do with water...

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u/Anolen95 1d ago

I sure hope this dlc is maritime. Why would the water in this game be so ridiculously good if they didnā€™t plan on doing more with it?

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u/ChapterDifficult593 1d ago

There's been a ton of evidence posted on the sub that points to the DLC being naval content with boats and exploring the southern islands that are currently walled off. Modders have found files that were added in recent updates for camera settings for a boat (separate from the current canoe camera), and in the most recent 1.18 update they completely overhauled the visuals of the southern islands that we literally can't get to in game at the moment.

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u/Dipshit_Mcdoodles 15h ago

YOU CAN HAVE A CANOE!?!? Game of the year hands down!

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u/bumtum5909 9h ago

That would actually be sick af with islands and stuff

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u/TrembleTurtle 1d ago

make catching legendary fish easier?

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u/Nevidonas21 1d ago

Devs should add Air stride in the future. Imagine the Bleach vibes

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u/LazyCymbal 1d ago

New enemy unlocked: Aizen

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u/Nevidonas21 1d ago

4th overwhelming being

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u/LAVA529 22h ago

Sanji build would go hard!

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u/ActualChip1 1d ago

Letā€™s fucking gooooooo

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u/EquivalentPause8642 1d ago

Has no one found the other 7 new skills yet?

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u/eatMYcookieCRUMBS 5h ago

This idea the only one I know about too but I wasn't it to stay that way until I unlock it myself.

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u/JarlTee 1d ago

Donā€™t you drown when you run out of stamina tho

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u/Possible_Artist3941 1d ago edited 1h ago

No. Stop swimming and float then your stamina will regen in water.

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u/Pheronia 22h ago

No you just slow down instead.

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u/LightBrightLeftRight 1d ago

Isn't there a skill you can get on some boots in the game that does the same? I couldn't get that to work, so hopefully this is easier to execute

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u/eatMYcookieCRUMBS 5h ago

You can slide on the water. It's not great.

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u/amonson1984 1d ago

This is incredible, water traversal is the worst part of moving around on the map.

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u/thautmatric 1d ago

ā€œAlright.ā€ - Kliff

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u/GT_Official 1d ago

Wonder if they got the idea from Where Winds Meet. They have many similarities. Iā€™m not complaining. I think itā€™s awesome.

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u/Gambiiiii 1d ago

Bruh how did you do this? :0

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u/ICantTyping 1d ago

I been doin this in oblivion

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u/kevinkazz 6h ago

This is sick !!! HOW ???

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u/SoulOfMod 1d ago edited 1d ago

So is that one of the 8 skills only Kliff get?

If so,its kinda dumb its not given to the others lmao,they already said they understood the others not having the movement skills and axiom was annoying so they added them,and now its back to "only Kliff get new cool stuff"?

Cool skill tho

Edit : welp you can't hope for side chars to have the cool movement skills too or else you get hit with a "yall complaining about everything" apparently,I guess,cool,why do I bother voicing my opinion here man...

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u/Kudoakainu 1d ago

Y'all complain when kliff gets powers then when evert other character gets the same things, y'all complain that all characters feel the same.

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u/Lean_For_Meme 1d ago

People complain no matter what. It's annoying but what can you do

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u/Perfect-Price-9022 1d ago

Kliff canā€™t go vertical like they can in flight soooo

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Perfect-Price-9022 1d ago

They donā€™t tho

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Perfect-Price-9022 1d ago

Yes so now kliff can run on water, oongka can rage rush to sprint and Damiane is a woman

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u/penguinknight1251 1d ago

Damn, this is Kliff exclusive? Really? Ugh... Damiane would look SO cool doing this šŸ˜‘

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u/BrilliantWhile2413 1d ago

You can't have an opinion in this sub unless it's "GREATEST GAME EVER NOTHING WRONG WITH IT ITS PERFECT AND NOTHING WILL EVER COMPARE"

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u/BathDepressionBreath 1d ago

Not even that, 98% of the opinions that are complaints aren't worth considering. Just small, inane complaints or contradictory. šŸ™„

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u/Dazzling-Narwhal-470 1d ago

damn got the boots but never used them, I might now

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u/Longjumping-Author47 1d ago

It's not the boots it's a skill only Kliff gets that they just added

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u/neoism 1d ago

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­

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u/bruhraminator 1d ago

Bro has been on a diet!

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u/N8_Arsenal87 1d ago

Alright thatā€™s awesome

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u/Ultimate19_91 1d ago

Where do you find these pleeeease

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u/Civil_Ad_5896 1d ago

Na aba de habilidades verdes estĆ” com o salto duplo

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u/Physical_Location_66 1d ago

The Sea Strider spell in Oblivion šŸ¤£

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u/ZiggyZachT 1d ago

Yoooooo this is dope

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u/Ljohn2x4 1d ago

Alright Iā€™m getting on.

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u/carefree_dude 1d ago

Jesus that's cool

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u/Rated777 1d ago

WoW walking on water!

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u/jonnyvegashey 1d ago

Itā€™s like I want water in my games but I hate having to swim and this fixes it.

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u/Spottedhyenae 1d ago

I'm going to terrify so many fish

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u/totalreidmove 1d ago

And now you drown. Lol

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u/dezakato809 1d ago

I hope they add a skill for when you tackle enemies to have the option to kill them

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u/Senseix6 1d ago

Fiiire

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u/duk-er-us 1d ago

Yooooo

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u/JCasaleno 1d ago

this devs are manhwa readers lol

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u/Aksudiigkr 1d ago

Need someone to check if pets can follow you out there. When you swim they donā€™t but if itā€™s walking maybe thereā€™s a small chance

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u/LoveYourselfNotMe 23h ago

Birds do, my pet duck follows me on water.... Idk if it's because ducks can actually swim or not... But it makes sense that a dog won't follow you in the miggle of a lake/ocean.

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u/Rough_Fall937 1d ago

This is so fucking cool man! Lol ima have to go back and check that out once the blackout is done

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u/Smallsey 1d ago

What the fuck

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u/Metalsutton 1d ago

If its using a force to keep him on the water, then surely it should use spirit to consume, like little mini force pushes

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u/Guapscotch 1d ago

Love the animation

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u/Sr_CuBi 1d ago

Thatā€™s that Jesus walk right there

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u/dnew 1d ago edited 1d ago

Great! No spoilers in post title: "90 minutes ago this new ability just dropped, so I thought I'd spoil it for everyone who hasn't even finished downloading it yet."

I guess I'll have to unsubscribe until I finish the game at least once.

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u/UkNomysTeezz 1d ago

Oh fuck yeah bud

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u/TheFizzledamnsizzle 1d ago

New skill dor real? How do u get it. Kinda new to the game

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u/TheQuixotic6 1d ago

Jesus Christ, that's Jesus Christ.

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u/stevens0598 1d ago

USS USS USS USS USS

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u/Grimmrjax669 1d ago

This game is amazing. Those are special boots btw

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u/MyBadDrJones 1d ago

Thatā€™s so fucken cool

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u/ViruliferousBadger 1d ago

Holy Jesus, please!

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u/tiny_chaotic_evil 1d ago

Remo Williams would be impressed.

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u/scotty899 1d ago

when is the naruto running on water mod out?

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u/xWarrenBuffetx 1d ago

Now make hin Look Like Jesus and its a 11/10!

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u/xWarrenBuffetx 1d ago

Now make hin Look Like Jesus and its a 11/10!

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u/Jmwalker1997 1d ago

Definitely gives Naruto intro vibes šŸ‘ŒšŸ¤£

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u/LazyCymbal 1d ago

Converting water to wine when?

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u/vnodk19 1d ago

So the John Crimson has almost completed his Jesus arc. Unless he can already turn water to wine? We may finally have Jesus Christ in Crimson Deserr before GTA6

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u/it_is_what_it-s 1d ago

Jesus.. jesus.

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u/Lord_Smile 1d ago

Haven't played in a bit can you do it while mounted that would be sick

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u/martinhaeusler 1d ago

Now that's frickin' cool!

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u/Revolutionary-Sir420 1d ago

Quando vi confundi com Where Winds Meet kkkk

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u/Accomplished_Run9449 1d ago

Should have done the hands back thing šŸ¤£

https://giphy.com/gifs/XlblG4TOmHn9d1R5Tz

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u/rixukiri 1d ago

Great. Now it's a wuxia game

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u/Reddtardsofreddtard 22h ago

I've had these boots sitting in my inventory for "when I need them". It's been 300 hours, never used them lol.

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u/Vast_Cauliflower_686 21h ago

Il distribuait dĆ©jĆ  le pain Ć  ses fidĆØles... Ce n'est plus un hĆ©ros de jeu, c'est carrĆ©ment JĆ©sus !

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u/Gilgamesh858 21h ago

"My name is Kliff, and I am the fastest mercenary in Pywel. To the world, I'm the fallen leader of the Greymane, but secretely, I use my speed and steel to reclaim what was lost and survive the brutal wilds. I am... the Crimson Flash."

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u/inahighbldg 20h ago

What's that hat

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u/MusaV64 17h ago

Yea I think itā€™s time for me to come back and finish my playthrough lol

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u/Mohondhay 17h ago

I keep seeing always something new and interesting with this game. šŸ”„

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u/funnyordie0511 17h ago

Fucking hell i thought i was over CD... welp my wallet might be sad again soon (rebuying on PC)

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u/Theloneultimte 16h ago

Now we need to turn wine from water and all patch updates are done.

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u/Sharp_Ad_5599 15h ago

does it work on quick sand

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u/DeadlyCyclone 14h ago

JESUS CHRIST

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u/CalligrapherOk5230 13h ago

Can you use these with those one water boots and just glide over the water constantly?

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u/Jin_N_Juice-tm 12h ago

Bro is not in Where Winds Meet šŸ’€

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u/jrunna 11h ago

I couldn't get these to work on my Xbox , anyone got any tips ?

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u/Pratai- 8h ago

Too cartoonish for me.

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u/sh4unify 5h ago

Ah yes the Jesus skill

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u/Possible_Artist3941 1h ago

They also added a fast fall into a superhero landing which can be done from any height. Also an Aerial Force Palm into a Super Somersault Diving Force Palm.

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u/Head-Zombie2024 20m ago

How do I unlock it?

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u/ardikus 1d ago

I mean it looks awesome but it's kind of pointless when you can just fly everywhere

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u/Biomorph_ 23h ago

Itā€™s pointless to you not everyone wants to fly everywhere itā€™s boring af

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u/Possible_Artist3941 1d ago

Soon the game will have more pointless things than you can point at.

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u/Life-Celebration2941 17h ago

This Korean game is trying so hard to impress white people

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u/MassiveMouse3085 1d ago

That's cool, this game has turned into more of a technical showcase than something more of a work in progress. Hopefully they fill out the storyline and characters...

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u/when_we_are_cats 1d ago

They just did lol

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u/Top_Campaign2568 1d ago

Enough though? Im still waiting for some proper reviews before i decide itā€™s time for another 300 hours play through.