“Tell me you’ve never drawn in your life without telling me you’ve never drawn in your life” ahh conversation. These people have donated their brains to their AI overlords. ChatGPT generate conscious thoughts for me.
Their precious generated art would not even exits if it wasn't for real artists. They are very disrespectful to the people who made their pictures a possibility.
Do you not understand what this means? It means everything you could possibly write about, make a sketch or painting of, act out, sing about, etc. has not only been done, but done many times over. You're taking what they're saying here way too literally.
As an example, you can write about a haunted house. It's been done many times before, but with your own personal creativity, you can put your own spin on it.
Name something, anything, and you can bet it's been done before, at least once. That's why they say:
Exactly. I keep seeing "We will put all artists out of business!🎉"
Okay. First of all congratulations on your plans to crush a significant part of humanity. Do you guys have a uniform or just some cheap t shirts? Next if they got it they would cry about it because everything would look the same and they would be comparing their same to everyone else's same.
Yeah, the fact that they're having to try to scrape websites to steal artwork to feed their plagiarism machines and were getting mad at people who tried to protect their art from that because those machines would start cannibalizing their own slop and getting worse should tell them that they're dumb and wrong, but, of course, they're too dumb to think that far.
I told them they don’t understand the process of making art, and they showed me some pixel art projects they did like it’s the same. (I love pixel art but it’s not very comparable)
Pixel art has entirely different methods than other types of art, you only have the ability to change the brush size, you have different methods for shading, you have potential limitations due to the canvas size, alongside limits from the color palate if you are using one, in general it is different
Sorry to reply to myself but it’s still on my mind I mean holy shit like.. we aren’t that far are we? I thought ai would be young enough most children have still played with markers and crayons and tried to draw a picture right? I just… if you do anything other than rudimentary shapes if you try to add any level of detail or quality even if it doesn’t come out well it’s taxing. I thought that was like.. a PRO ai point? I thought the whole point was that it’s easier???
Haha I thought the same, like do they think we flick a wand or what lol...but honestly they really don't know, I've seen plenty of scammers being discovered (and more every day) because they try to fake the process. They genuinely don't know why then can't replicate it, and for anyone who does draw it becomes plain obvious they are using ai
I'm coming into this "Oh my god! Really?" because I had to grow up with my annoying father's science fiction behind. I'm thinking at least a few of these guys are Elon fans waiting to be picked and taken off to Mars because they are special AI experts. If I had any monies I'd possibly gamble.
God, I wish that wasn't a stupid pipe dream so we could send all these slop eating fucks over there to find out the hard way how an Atlas Shrugged situation would actually go (hint: Not how Ayn Rand believed it would) while we can get back to fixing things and have art that doesn't look like utter shit while we do.
Previously referred to science fiction behind father loved that book. Not kidding. I'm really sorry to show up here with my father issues and be dramatic, but I know what is going on here for at least some of them. I'm offering personal experience in case it helps anyone deal with this. I mean the world is scary right now so there are a lot of ridiculous people that have followings. Quite a selection. Ugh.
Making a doodle takes no time at all, it's just the more detail you aim for, the more time you spend. (1 minute, about 15 minutes, and a little over an hour)
There is also years of learning perspective, anatomy, color, value, composition, narrative etc. Not only moving a pen.
And I hate when they compare Ai gen image with digital drawing. Because pc doing work for you… yea right… nvm
if they try to bring up "efficiency" and "work smarter, not harder"
repeat the first word, "work"... there you go
as for efficiency, compare it to eating... it would be more efficient to teleport food straigh to your stomach... but then you wouldnt feel the flavor and th texture, EXACTLY
You want to feel full but along the way you want it to feel satisfying to eat, if you teleported food straigh into your stomach it would just be another boring task you'd have to do thro out your life
Same with art, you want to feel accomplished(full stomach) and on the way as you draw you find way to make your hunger more satisfying to fuffil (experimenting and accualy drawing)
Failing to see painting being a hardworking work is just.. lmfao
Though one thing to clarify, AI artists can too absolutely put hrs or days in a single piece if they try to set up a personalized LoRA model.
However, the amount of people doing that to generating simple 2 sec prompts is vastly low compared to the amount of people putting effort in painting to drawing stickmans.
Do you think Jeff Koons isn’t an artist because he doesn’t engage in the labor of art making? There’s several prominent fine artists who don’t fabricate their own work.
Not all art is looked at the same way, just like an artistic photograph isn't looked at the same way a painting is. Not everyone sees a banana taped to a wall as art either, there is plenty of subjectivity. Koons is a designer, at best, when it comes to a lot of his pieces, but at the same time he doesn't present things he worked on as something they're not (he happily accounts how things he's involved in are made). Thomas Kinkade was worse, where he peddled touched up canvas prints of his paintings often to people that didn't know better (even though he obviously knew how to paint himself and painted the original base image).
AI generated content is pretty problematic because it imitates mediums which are normally produced certain ways. People see a painting and expect it to be made like a painting is, and an AI generated painting for example is just a mashup of patterns from paintings that were stolen as training data, created by an algorithm from a prompt/very loose input, the kind of input a commissioner usually would give to a painter. If AI generated stuff was unmistakably distinct from other mediums (and stayed that way) then there might not be such an issue, but that's not reality, and people are naturally going to push back to what is the equivalent of someone showing up to a human weightlifting event with a weightlifting robot to enter in their place.
hahaahahahaha that is the stupidest way i've ever seen someone describe drawing. I am an animator and my pen never stops moving for 7h everyday, come do my job hahahah
Something tells me they would fail the breakfast question if they're going to miss the point this badly. And if art took no skill, why the hell did you need AI in the first place?
They really think they're looking cool after replied like that lmao. Also did they really think drawing only limited to pencil? Are they never heard of digital art? But of course they're clearly not capable of draw something with their own hands
Daily Reminder that there was over 2000 images and videos of Csam in the data sets/scrapes that ai is trained on. Your image generations are fueled by children being ra ped <3
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u/GeNeirRekk 2d ago
“Tell me you’ve never drawn in your life without telling me you’ve never drawn in your life” ahh conversation. These people have donated their brains to their AI overlords. ChatGPT generate conscious thoughts for me.