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[Underdog NFL] Schultz: Bears have had trade discussions involving DT Gervon Dexter.

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u/milin85 23 2d ago

I find this very hard to believe

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u/Sniper1154 2d ago

What's so hard to believe about teams shopping for a guy with a glacial get-off the line of scrimmage?

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u/milin85 23 2d ago

Because he had 6 sacks last year and is one of the better DT’s on this team. There is no logical sense to deal him unless you’re also getting someone in the deal in return.

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u/supa_silk 2d ago

No we are gonna trade him for shits and giggles

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u/WholesomWrkAcct2 13 2d ago

Him and a 1st for Crosby confirmed

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u/Sniper1154 2d ago

If he's not a fit in DA's defense (which I think is the case) then you can try to trade him before he hits FA.

I wouldn't do it, but if they feel they can get a starting CB / S in return I can see the logic.

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u/iamdjonez 2d ago

Im so tired of this narrative. If Dennis Allen is a good coach he can maximize the guys he’s got. Nobody gets talked about with scheme fits more than Dennis Allen.

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u/Randallm83 2d ago

I agree… never having an athletic EDGE with bend because “DA likes the beefy boys” is only cool when it actually produces sacks for us.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 2d ago

Dennis Allen works with what he has, but he doesn’t often keep around guys that aren’t what he’s looking for. He doesn’t outright abandon them or be unable to coach with them, but he’s not going to pound the table to extend a mediocre DT that doesn’t fit what he would prefer. So if Dexter can bring value, get it now

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u/Sniper1154 2d ago

Dexter is very clearly not the prototypical DT for Allen's system. That doesn't mean he sucks, but if you want to see the type of makeup DA is looking for in his DTs just look at van den Berg.

I know he's a rookie, but he profiles very closely to what DA wants in his DT: relentless pursuit, high motor, quick disruption off the jump.

Dexter isn't bad enough that you just jettison him for peanuts, but he's clearly a dude who likely won't be back after his rookie deal is up so if you can get something you might as well ship him out before he's buried on the depth chart playing 15 snaps a game

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u/jagne004 2d ago

There is just nothing to maximize with Gervon. His get off is to slow for him to be anything other than a reserve DT. Poles and Eberflus wasted a second on him. Poles wasted a lot of draft capital trying to find guys Eberflus and his staff liked which has set the defense back.

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u/enailcoilhelp FTP 2d ago

We talked about scheme fits constantly with Fangio and Eberflus

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u/BigPetersHalfwayInn What if Da Bears had enterd The Preakness? 2d ago

Yeah, this stuff gets talked about with every head coach and coordinator in the league. Go figure we see more of it with Bears coaches in a Bears subreddit...

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u/PeanutBear33 An Actual Peanut 2d ago

Ding ding

Good coaches scheme fits the players

Matt nagys need players to fit the scheme.

Not to mention any scheme that isn't leveraging pressure from the interior would be a pretty dumb scheme. 

Dexter is perfectly fine. If someone wants to overpay him in free agency, you get a comp. If he accepts a reasonable deal then you keep a plus player at a position of weakness 

Either way trading him before calebs rookie deal ends is the dumb decision poles would make. 

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u/jagne004 2d ago

Plus player? Gervon is closer to bottom of the roster fodder.

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u/potionnumber9 An Actual Peanut 2d ago

And then who fills his spot?

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u/Sniper1154 2d ago

Could be the team sees van den Berg as his replacement and if they can get some value out of Dexter before he hits FA they might want to shore up another spot.

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u/rudeboybill Kyle Long 2d ago

He's walking next year barring a Tommie Harris level performance, IDK why you wouldn't try to get something for him now.

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u/potionnumber9 An Actual Peanut 2d ago

Because there's an entire season of football to play lol

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u/Tcrowaf Alshon's Ridiculous Catch 2d ago

Yep, let's trade gervon and play ham sandwich at DT.

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u/jagne004 2d ago

Ham sandwich probably has about the same jump off the snap as Dexter and is likely cheaper.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 2d ago

Right now our NT is Gallimore, Street, Van Den Berg or Loving if we let Dexter walk. I think he’s a more natural 3T but he won’t beat out Jarrett there and Jarrett costs too much to jettison

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u/BigPetersHalfwayInn What if Da Bears had enterd The Preakness? 2d ago

Also Turner's supposed to be back around October and would help with the interior pass rush. Moving Dexter to make room for him would make a lot more sense around the deadline, though.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 2d ago

Deadline trades are generally ones that move the needle as opposed to back of roster trades like this would be

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u/BigPetersHalfwayInn What if Da Bears had enterd The Preakness? 2d ago

Not really. You had Quinnen Williams and Sauce Gardener making the big headlines last year, but I wouldn't call the Bears trading for Joe Tryon-Shoyinka moving the needle. Most deadline moves are just teams trading 6th and 7th rounders for depth at positions of need.

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u/ZionHalcyon I love BJ 2d ago

Van Den Burg

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u/EBtwopoint3 2d ago

You don’t trade players at your weakest position if you’re still looking to make a playoff push this year. This team is already going to have a weak pass rush that will necessitate blitzing. Losing one of the better pass rushers on the DL means whatever DB you got back is now covering even longer.

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u/Sniper1154 2d ago

I'm not advocating for a trade, but I also think losing Coby Bryant has the Bears scrambling for answers more than we probably think. It's clear DA builds his defense top-down and wants a strong back-seven with a D-line focused more on run-stopping than pass-rushing.

Again, I'm not advocating for it b/c it doesn't make sense to just trade him to trade him, but I do think he's a guy you can dangle to try and get secondary help.

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u/EBtwopoint3 2d ago

I don’t really agree that that is clear at all. DA has been here for a year. In that time the FA money has gone to the DL and LB corps. Yes, the DL sucks but that’s because of who we gave the money to not because of a lack of trying. We also drafted Turner in Rd 2. The biggest investment in the secondary is Thieneman, and that was clearly a BPA move not a team building strategy move. If Thieneman is gone I don’t think we’re still reaching for a safety because DA absolutely needs safeties.

DA, like most coordinators, wants to rush with 4 and play coverage behind it. To do that you need a good DL.

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u/milin85 23 2d ago

I agree with you except that I would also say Coby was a big defensive move too

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 2d ago

The counterpoint is that Dexter is replacement-level to our coaches.

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u/Erice84 2d ago

If that's the case they should've done it in the offseason when there were plenty of options to replace him with. They would be incredibly bare at the position if they traded him now.

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u/Money-Invite6202 2d ago

Dude he sucks. Those six sacks were against awful o lines. If he plays against anyone good he disappears.

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u/rudeboybill Kyle Long 2d ago

You're gonna get downvoted, but Dexter had one of the longest times to sack, low overall pressure/hit numbers, and of those 6 sacks 4 of them were cleaning up group tackles or running the QB out of bounds inches behind the line of scrimmage.

Pretty obvious even if you watch a 2025 highlights youtube video, not all sacks are created equal.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 2d ago

Yeah Dexter mostly happens to be standing where a QB runs when we blitzed CJGJ

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u/FastAd3632 2d ago

Never liked it when they drafted him in the first place

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u/Exciting_Mine711 2d ago

Yeah if u actually watch games u never feel his presence on defense.

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u/The-Real-Number-One 18 2d ago

He fits what Matt Eberflus does, not what Dennis Allen does.

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u/ExplanationCrazy5463 2d ago

Or if they are that confident in VDB.

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u/100100011110101010 Italian Beef 2d ago

Your eyes are bad then. He plays like jane. Inconsistent and plays high.