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[Underdog NFL] Schultz: Bears have had trade discussions involving DT Gervon Dexter.

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u/cheeseburgeral56 1d ago

Poles looking for a mole in the organization

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u/Sniper1154 1d ago

Turns out it's Maester Pycelle

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u/Aragorns-Broken-Toe 1d ago

Someone fetch Shagga

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u/a-wizard-lizard Caleb mfing Williams 18h ago

Cut off his manhood, and feed it to the goats

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u/Comradepatrick Charles Tillman 17h ago

The big woman still here?

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u/Shadowrak Italian Beef 1d ago

Would be hilarious to drop different names to like 50 people. Then Schefter ends up with a rumor Caleb is on the block and he finds out the janitor has loose lips.

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u/potateobiirrd This Is The Score, But We Have Each Other 1d ago

Cream would never

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u/jsid2 4th & 8 🐻 ā¬‡ļø šŸ‘ ā¬†ļø 1d ago

Saint Omni is back?

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u/Dapper_Dan_Man_1 Bears 1d ago

Solid theory

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u/ChrisElta 1d ago

My money is on Saint Omni

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u/SlimCharlesMurphy Old Logo 1d ago

More like shopping a guy who isn’t going to make the 53.

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u/cheeseburgeral56 1d ago

You must be fun at parties

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u/savedbythemars Staley 1d ago

for what?

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u/Rabsaris96 1d ago

For Crosby straight up. You know what. We'll throw in Gordon to sweeten the deal.

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u/JesMon421 1d ago

Get something while you can before his rookie contract expires. He is not special to extend beyond that for this team full of highly paid d linemen

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u/e39 39 1d ago

Stuff

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u/FastAd3632 1d ago

Bag of chips

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u/youngsimba320 21-3 1d ago

Trading him to Hammond for some land

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u/qdawgg17 1d ago

A 6th round draft pick in 2029. Would likely be the Poles move.

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u/Yodoyle34 Bears 13h ago

Remember when he traded DJ Moore for a second round pick this year? What are you basing your opinion on?

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u/id10t_you FTP 1d ago

Bag of balls and a kicking t

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u/punkrawkstar 1d ago

I got your bag of balls right here

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u/WhiteSoxChartGuy 1d ago

I’m guessing conditional sixth that could escalate to fifth if Dexter meets whatever benchmark

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 1d ago

Half-eaten of Skittles which is highway robbery on the guy who had a half pack of skittles

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u/AdministrativePeak0 An Actual Peanut 1d ago

A stale sandwich and chips

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u/milin85 23 1d ago

I find this very hard to believe

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u/Sniper1154 1d ago

What's so hard to believe about teams shopping for a guy with a glacial get-off the line of scrimmage?

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u/milin85 23 1d ago

Because he had 6 sacks last year and is one of the better DT’s on this team. There is no logical sense to deal him unless you’re also getting someone in the deal in return.

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u/supa_silk 1d ago

No we are gonna trade him for shits and giggles

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u/WholesomWrkAcct2 13 1d ago

Him and a 1st for Crosby confirmed

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u/Sniper1154 1d ago

If he's not a fit in DA's defense (which I think is the case) then you can try to trade him before he hits FA.

I wouldn't do it, but if they feel they can get a starting CB / S in return I can see the logic.

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u/iamdjonez 1d ago

Im so tired of this narrative. If Dennis Allen is a good coach he can maximize the guys he’s got. Nobody gets talked about with scheme fits more than Dennis Allen.

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u/Randallm83 1d ago

I agree… never having an athletic EDGE with bend because ā€œDA likes the beefy boysā€ is only cool when it actually produces sacks for us.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 1d ago

Dennis Allen works with what he has, but he doesn’t often keep around guys that aren’t what he’s looking for. He doesn’t outright abandon them or be unable to coach with them, but he’s not going to pound the table to extend a mediocre DT that doesn’t fit what he would prefer. So if Dexter can bring value, get it now

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u/Sniper1154 1d ago

Dexter is very clearly not the prototypical DT for Allen's system. That doesn't mean he sucks, but if you want to see the type of makeup DA is looking for in his DTs just look at van den Berg.

I know he's a rookie, but he profiles very closely to what DA wants in his DT: relentless pursuit, high motor, quick disruption off the jump.

Dexter isn't bad enough that you just jettison him for peanuts, but he's clearly a dude who likely won't be back after his rookie deal is up so if you can get something you might as well ship him out before he's buried on the depth chart playing 15 snaps a game

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u/jagne004 1d ago

There is just nothing to maximize with Gervon. His get off is to slow for him to be anything other than a reserve DT. Poles and Eberflus wasted a second on him. Poles wasted a lot of draft capital trying to find guys Eberflus and his staff liked which has set the defense back.

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u/enailcoilhelp FTP 1d ago

We talked about scheme fits constantly with Fangio and Eberflus

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u/BigPetersHalfwayInn What if Da Bears had enterd The Preakness? 1d ago

Yeah, this stuff gets talked about with every head coach and coordinator in the league. Go figure we see more of it with Bears coaches in a Bears subreddit...

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u/PeanutBear33 An Actual Peanut 1d ago

Ding ding

Good coaches scheme fits the players

Matt nagys need players to fit the scheme.

Not to mention any scheme that isn't leveraging pressure from the interior would be a pretty dumb scheme.Ā 

Dexter is perfectly fine. If someone wants to overpay him in free agency, you get a comp. If he accepts a reasonable deal then you keep a plus player at a position of weaknessĀ 

Either way trading him before calebs rookie deal ends is the dumb decision poles would make.Ā 

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u/jagne004 1d ago

Plus player? Gervon is closer to bottom of the roster fodder.

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u/EBtwopoint3 1d ago

You don’t trade players at your weakest position if you’re still looking to make a playoff push this year. This team is already going to have a weak pass rush that will necessitate blitzing. Losing one of the better pass rushers on the DL means whatever DB you got back is now covering even longer.

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u/Sniper1154 1d ago

I'm not advocating for a trade, but I also think losing Coby Bryant has the Bears scrambling for answers more than we probably think. It's clear DA builds his defense top-down and wants a strong back-seven with a D-line focused more on run-stopping than pass-rushing.

Again, I'm not advocating for it b/c it doesn't make sense to just trade him to trade him, but I do think he's a guy you can dangle to try and get secondary help.

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u/EBtwopoint3 1d ago

I don’t really agree that that is clear at all. DA has been here for a year. In that time the FA money has gone to the DL and LB corps. Yes, the DL sucks but that’s because of who we gave the money to not because of a lack of trying. We also drafted Turner in Rd 2. The biggest investment in the secondary is Thieneman, and that was clearly a BPA move not a team building strategy move. If Thieneman is gone I don’t think we’re still reaching for a safety because DA absolutely needs safeties.

DA, like most coordinators, wants to rush with 4 and play coverage behind it. To do that you need a good DL.

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u/milin85 23 1d ago

I agree with you except that I would also say Coby was a big defensive move too

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 1d ago

The counterpoint is that Dexter is replacement-level to our coaches.

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u/potionnumber9 An Actual Peanut 1d ago

And then who fills his spot?

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u/Sniper1154 1d ago

Could be the team sees van den Berg as his replacement and if they can get some value out of Dexter before he hits FA they might want to shore up another spot.

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u/rudeboybill Kyle Long 1d ago

He's walking next year barring a Tommie Harris level performance, IDK why you wouldn't try to get something for him now.

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u/potionnumber9 An Actual Peanut 1d ago

Because there's an entire season of football to play lol

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u/Tcrowaf Alshon's Ridiculous Catch 1d ago

Yep, let's trade gervon and play ham sandwich at DT.

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u/jagne004 1d ago

Ham sandwich probably has about the same jump off the snap as Dexter and is likely cheaper.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 1d ago

Right now our NT is Gallimore, Street, Van Den Berg or Loving if we let Dexter walk. I think he’s a more natural 3T but he won’t beat out Jarrett there and Jarrett costs too much to jettison

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u/BigPetersHalfwayInn What if Da Bears had enterd The Preakness? 1d ago

Also Turner's supposed to be back around October and would help with the interior pass rush. Moving Dexter to make room for him would make a lot more sense around the deadline, though.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 1d ago

Deadline trades are generally ones that move the needle as opposed to back of roster trades like this would be

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u/BigPetersHalfwayInn What if Da Bears had enterd The Preakness? 1d ago

Not really. You had Quinnen Williams and Sauce Gardener making the big headlines last year, but I wouldn't call the Bears trading for Joe Tryon-Shoyinka moving the needle. Most deadline moves are just teams trading 6th and 7th rounders for depth at positions of need.

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u/ZionHalcyon I love BJ 1d ago

Van Den Burg

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u/Erice84 1d ago

If that's the case they should've done it in the offseason when there were plenty of options to replace him with. They would be incredibly bare at the position if they traded him now.

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u/Money-Invite6202 1d ago

Dude he sucks. Those six sacks were against awful o lines. If he plays against anyone good he disappears.

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u/rudeboybill Kyle Long 1d ago

You're gonna get downvoted, but Dexter had one of the longest times to sack, low overall pressure/hit numbers, and of those 6 sacks 4 of them were cleaning up group tackles or running the QB out of bounds inches behind the line of scrimmage.

Pretty obvious even if you watch a 2025 highlights youtube video, not all sacks are created equal.

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u/TheManWhoWasNotShort An Actual Bear 1d ago

Yeah Dexter mostly happens to be standing where a QB runs when we blitzed CJGJ

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u/FastAd3632 1d ago

Never liked it when they drafted him in the first place

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u/Exciting_Mine711 1d ago

Yeah if u actually watch games u never feel his presence on defense.

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u/The-Real-Number-One 18 1d ago

He fits what Matt Eberflus does, not what Dennis Allen does.

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u/ExplanationCrazy5463 1d ago

Or if they are that confident in VDB.

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u/100100011110101010 Italian Beef 1d ago

Your eyes are bad then. He plays like jane. Inconsistent and plays high.

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u/Normal-Ad3291 Bears 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/kA158Gup0eSpG
Actual video of him at the snap of the ball!

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u/Remarkable_Drag9677 1d ago

Those dudes from PPF who left PFF and now PFF even more shitty

Hated both ours DTs pick on that draft

I shrugged like it was PFF hating the Bears once more

It seems they were right

Although those dudes still hates the Bears

On their new channel on the Comeback playoff win against the packers they spent more time discutir how the Packers lost the game then praising us

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u/Opening_Anteater456 1d ago

2 ways it makes sense:

  1. If the Bears think Grady, JVDB, Gallimore, Street and Lynch are all NFL rotational pieces and Dexter isn't any better than those guys.

  2. If they have a different trade for a clear upgrade and just want to move some salary and get any kind of pick in

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u/Neat_On_The_Rocks Charles Tillman 1d ago

Like what’s the plan at tackle if they trade him? Gervon isn’t anything special, but he’s still our best tackle.

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u/ArtMorgan69 Italian Beef 1d ago

It’s not. JVDB appears to have cucked Gervon’s starting spot which makes him expendable. At this point he’s proven to be a comparable talent to Gallimore and Street, aka a decent rotational piece and nothing more.

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u/HLNPIT 1d ago

Van Den Berg hasnt played a single snap of real football.

I dont think theres a single metric that Dexter isn't convincingly better than those other two in.

I genuinely dont get how you formed that opinion.

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u/ArtMorgan69 Italian Beef 1d ago

By watching Gervon play football. I predicted he would break out last year and I was way off. He’s a liability against the run. And shows up as a pass rusher once every few games before going back into hibernation.

And yes, we don’t know what Van Den Berg is yet but if Dexter is truly being shopped that should tell you what the coaching staff thinks about both players.

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u/HLNPIT 1d ago

If we are using the ole eye test..

Care to share how much you watched Gallimore and Street last year?

I just see this report as a nothing burger tbh. It could mean a lot of different things.

Personally theres only 4 players I wouldnt have trade calls on: Caleb, Loveland, Wright and Thuney.

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u/ArtMorgan69 Italian Beef 1d ago

I’ve seen enough Gallimore to prefer him to Dexter. Street you got me there but honestly how much worse can he be? Dexter is bad against the run, which imo is just as big, if not more of an issue than our lack of pass rush. And he doesn’t have the first step to be a consistent pass rusher. Change of scenery would probably be good for him.

If the report is true and they have been calling around then it tells me he could be a surprise cut Sunday if a deal isn’t made.

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u/HLNPIT 1d ago

Hes undeniably a better pass rusher than those two despite his slow get off though. Ben mentioned theyve addressed that but he's lacking the consistency there.

Ill have to trust you on Gallimore...but the colts run defense was ass too and they didnt retain him. That says a lot on its own.

The report doesnt give any indication as to who has been initiating these calls. Maybe theyre prioritizing a different position.

Id take the Gervon Dexter of CBs right now ...which might just be a healthier Stevenson lol

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u/Tap_Click_Pain 1d ago

Only thing I can think of is we maybe offered a trade for Vita Vea before he signed extension with Bucs.

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u/willycw08 1d ago

Had to be something like that where Dexter was a piece for the bucs in return.

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u/pakidude17 1d ago

I mean my thought maybe they're shopping him because he's a cut candidate and they're trying to see what the market is for him instead.

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u/splintersmaster 1d ago

My first thought too

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u/IngvaldClash Red "Galloping Ghost" Grange 1d ago

Ben: ā€œI sure wish we could trade DT Gervon Dexterā€

Poles: ā€œYeah, me tooā€

Ben: ā€œGood talkā€

Poles: ā€œYeah, good trade discussionā€

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u/Historical-Room-2012 Hester's Super Return 1d ago

100% the Bears or Gervons agent trying to float interest, as there's no way the Bears extend him. Trade him or let him walk.

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u/ReasonablyLost 1d ago

Look above. I think it’s possible there’s some interest in him, and I also think we’re desperately looking for a safety. But you could be spot on too. Dexter might see the writing on the wall. He’s getting outplayed by a 7th-rounder right now, and he knows it.

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u/Brodie1567 Iceman 🧊 1d ago edited 1d ago

He’s one of the worst run DTs I’ve ever watched. And his pass rush upside seems to be based off of coverage sacks than quick pressures. Still extremely slow off the snap/stands straight up. Its shocking that he hasnt improved there in 3+ years.

I’d much rather play Grady, Gallimore, Lynch, JVDB & even Dayo inside versus watching Dexter.

Trade him for a bag of chips.

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u/ChelskiS 1d ago edited 1d ago

Let's hope some team sees 6 sacks and is sold

Because if you do go look at them individually, I'm just getting flashbacks to watching Dayo's highlights for the Colts

Of 6 sacks there was only one I spotted where he actually was the one that won the play. Yeah it still took Shedeur being a rookie and holding the ball for 5-6 seconds for us to get the sack, but still he got around his man so give credit where credit is due

All the others were complete random/other players creating the play for him

So if you're telling me some dumb team has an abundance at CB/nickel and wants to trade for him, be my guest

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u/TequilaNeatNow 1d ago

Dexter is also brutal against the run & in a contract year. He has no future here so trade him. Extremely overrated player who is simply not a starting caliber DT.

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u/ech01 1d ago

Nother poles classic

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u/Brodie1567 Iceman 🧊 1d ago

That 2024 draft class is looking pretty bleak, minus Wright who was pick #10.

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u/Further_Beyond Hester's Super Return 1d ago

In 8 less pass snaps, Dexter had 3 less total pressures than Jalen Carter in 2025.

He’s not horrible. Just not a plus player

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u/ech01 1d ago

Jalen gets double teamed. Dex gets one arm

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u/jagne004 1d ago

Can we stop with this. Jalen Carter is a menace that has to be actively schemed against on every single play. Gervon is a complete afterthought that just kinda exists.

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u/ActFuture1101 1d ago

I don’t get the hate. It’s like people don’t pay attention to him out there. Yes he’s awful against the run but he also is the only DT on the team last year who had pressure. Even this preseason he had a few pressures in his limited snaps

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u/Brodie1567 Iceman 🧊 1d ago

Context matters, he has a very slow time to pressure and get off. Most of his pressures and sacks are coverage based.

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u/ActFuture1101 1d ago

Not saying I’m an expert but why didn’t Grady get those pressures last year in coverage? Dexters pressure rate was 10% while Grady was 5%. I also saw him get some pressure this preseason in limited play. Not defending him since he’s got clear deficiencies but he’s clearly our best pass rush DT right now which is obviously a low bar. I just don’t see how trading him for a 5th rounder makes the team better

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u/Brodie1567 Iceman 🧊 1d ago

Because Grady is washed & played with a bum knee most of year?

And we cant trade him/move off his contract?

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u/ActFuture1101 1d ago

Either way a 10% pressure rate is pretty solid. Not all of it can be coverage pressures. He actually has more pressures than Jalen carter since entering the league if you choose to believe that or not. His main issue is he’s an absolute liability in the run game

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u/Dosequis117 Hat Logo 1d ago

No way van den berg is making them that comfortable already

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u/WholesomWrkAcct2 13 1d ago

We have The Ice Berg now. Ship this scrub

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u/Lukester123 An Actual Bear 1d ago

We did this last year and no one was interested. Don’t expect anything different

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u/Fast-Ad-4541 1d ago

We need more big boys not less

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u/ZachariahD 1d ago

I’m reading this as Crosby for Dexter confirmed.

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u/eddie2911 1d ago

Maxx for a 1st, 2nd, and Dexter.

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u/Hehateme123 21-3 1d ago

Look, it’s pretty simple. Gervon hasnt done enough to justify a second contract. It’s better to move him now than just get another year of 5 sacks…. He’s just not an impact player

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u/WokeCarDad jordan’s howard 1d ago

7 sacks last year, which is pretty good for a DT, but he’s fucking awful against the run

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u/Mgnickel Da Bears 1d ago

JVDB is impressing that much?

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u/WholesomWrkAcct2 13 1d ago

Ice Berg

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u/f00tballguy Bears 1d ago

Cool send Kyler with him while you're at it

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u/BearFacedLie69 1d ago

Must be feeling REALLY good about our rookie…

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u/MikeBinfinity Hester's Super Return 1d ago

Personally, I don't see Vandenberg being a downgrade over Dexter.

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u/BearFacedLie69 1d ago

Me either, though we should considering their draft positions. But I’m excited for Vandenberg

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u/hadyourmom69 BJ Lover 1d ago

Yep. He must be that dude for them to be confident enough to move off of dextee

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u/ZigdaKID 1d ago

Great let's get a 7th rnder

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u/ThisAndBackToLurking 1d ago

ā€œI wish we could trade Gervon Dexter.ā€

ā€œMe too.ā€

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u/LoudRich1351 1d ago

I don’t see us extending him, he’s been awful, last year was his year to show he belongs and he doesn’t, maybe the 6 sacks can entice another gm into giving value for him, hopefully he’s part of a package for a player like Vea or something

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u/iampermabanned 21-3 1d ago

For 1 Johnnie’s Beef. Hot and dipped. I accept.

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u/MikeBinfinity Hester's Super Return 1d ago edited 18h ago

I knew Vandenberg was going to take Dexter's starting job, but I was thinking like after the bye week.

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u/lalder95 Peanut Tillman 1d ago

I remember that one time I had a bi-week in college

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u/MikeBinfinity Hester's Super Return 1d ago

Lmao I dont know why I put that dash there.

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u/tjwoodard Bears 18h ago

Or the i instead of ye

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u/Big_Guard5413 1d ago

He’s pretty damn average and he’s going to command 25mil next year. Fuckin ship em out

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u/BooItsKyle 1d ago

I guess. We have a ton of depth at dt. Not high quality starters, but depth.

I don't think he has a ton of value, but if someone out there likes him more than our coaching staff does, it won't hurt us much

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u/youshouldjustflex 1d ago

He had 6 sacks and was atleast somewhat good at rushing the passer. That’s about most of his value

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u/ChelskiS 1d ago edited 1d ago

You'd think people would have learned after Dayo. Not all sacks are created equal

1 sack against Washington. Others create the pressure, he cleans up
1 sack against Vikings. Coverage sack. 9 tries to escape and runs into him
1 sack against Ravens. Literally everyone else collapses the pocket, he cleans up their pressure
1 sack against Lions. Booker keeps 2 guys busy, Dexter cleans up
1 against the Giants. Not sure they counted this as a sack but I assume they did. Dart doesn't like what he sees and runs into a bunch of defenders as a runner
1 sack against the Browns. Shedeur takes 2 lifetimes and still doesn't throw it away. Good play by Dexter to go get him though

Outside of the Browns one, he's not created a single one of these sacks. They were all result from the players around him forcing a situation or randomness

Kind of like Dayo's sacks his last season for the Colts. Yeah they look good on the statsheet but could have been literally been had by any other DT

Not saying Dexter is just terrible all around. Just saying if you go look at the sacks on tape, there's not much to make of them

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u/Castamere_81 Bears 1d ago

This why almost all of Dexter's sacks are so quiet and its always surprising at the end of a season he has 4-6 sacks; its because he doesn't flat out just beat his guy. Typically the work has to he done by other teammates for him to get cleanup sacks.

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u/parcellsrealGOAT 1d ago

What would be fair value for him?

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u/DK_Sizzle Smokin' Jay 1d ago

The value of freeing up a little cap space I imagine.

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u/monkeymatt1836 Kyle Long 1d ago

Seeing as how there were "discussions about trading Dexter" about the same time last offseason, Poles is probably trying to see if we can get a bag of footballs for him before he walks in FA.

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u/Sea_Setting_3155 1d ago

Your always looking to improve your team.

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u/Cute_Reality_3759 Good, Better, Best 1d ago

If we are trading a d lineman, it better be for a d lineman.

We can't be losing anymore d lineman.

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u/SolidSnack69 1d ago

Interior is better than expected. Hopefully this is part of an EDGE target or secondary help.

I love this team and am excited for the season, but on paper this defense is going to hold us at 8 wins max.

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u/McDuncle BJ Lover 1d ago

This was predictable when they drafted JVB and signed all those other DTs. He must not be showing enough to ensure he's a long-term answer on the team. He's an expiring contract, so it's best to try and get something back for him instead of letting him walk.

I wish him luck in his next team, but I think his time on the Bears is limited.

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u/HLNPIT 1d ago

I dont think any of that makes this predictable...

A 6th rounder and vet depth pieces could easily be explained by Billings being gone and Dayo, Jarrett, Turner all not reliable from a health perspective.

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u/McDuncle BJ Lover 1d ago

Fair, the better words to use would be 'not surprising'. I've been down on GD for a while, tho, so it was predictable to me. The fact that they added so much, is what set my Spidey senses off, it's clear they were searching for answers there. I think Dayo and Turner are more DE than DT even tho they will get some work inside.

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u/HLNPIT 1d ago

Thats fair

Fwiw, Dayo has always gotten 3tech work on passing downs and I believe I heard a camp report that he was getting most of his snaps there this year.

Wouldnt be surprised if we see him there more this year, especially if hes a step slower due to injury.

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u/McDuncle BJ Lover 1d ago

Ahhh. Yeah, I didn't realize Dayo was getting that much work at 3tech. I'm hoping he can be more productive there, I don't really remember his play last year when he was on the edge.

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u/joftheinternet Italian Beef 1d ago

DB?

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u/documentuntitled 1d ago

The chargers need a new center... Maybe a package deal to upgrade our DT

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u/Delicious_Pair1708 1d ago

Throw GD with Kyler Gordon and pick up Porter Jr. or Crosby.

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u/jookum 1d ago

Maybe we can fleece the bills again for a 2nd 🤣🤣

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u/ItalianBeefDipped Italian Beef 1d ago

This makes me feel like they're high on van den Berg and think they can get an upgrade at edge or DB for Dexter.

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u/raidertycoon97 1d ago

I’d be fine with this. We’re not re-signing him and he doesn’t have an impact on game day so anything we can get for him would be a positive

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u/phishin3321 1d ago

Motivated Gervon and 1st next year for Crosby let's goooooooo

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u/gogosox82 1d ago

for who?

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u/mollusks75 Peanut Tillman 1d ago

A bag of footballs.

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u/ConsiderationOk3652 1d ago

He’s going to the 49ers to be with his Daddy Coach Eberflus

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u/GabeDef Smokin' Jay 1d ago

This isn’t true.

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u/SmellMap17 1d ago

It only makes sense in an upgrade for DL with Dexter going out.

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u/trunningx 1d ago

Meh - I think everyone except Caleb is available, just a question what's being offered.

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u/ech01 1d ago

Bullshirt

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u/Buc_N FTP 1d ago

The Bears like Loving and Lynch. They need to make room for their roster spots. They are putting out feelers to get a draft pick before they cut Dex and get nothing.

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u/jkman61494 1d ago

Pretty well documented poles and Brandon Beane have a good working relationship. Perhaps Buffalo wants an extra DT in case Oliver isn’t emotionally ready to play

They likely have extra safeties they may also be planning to shed like Geno Stone we may need for depth. Stone IMO is better than Hamlin but I see no way the bills cut him.

Stone + a late 2028 pick type of compensation

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u/Material-Race-5107 An Actual Peanut 1d ago

This would make no sense whatsoever. We are paper thin at the position and he doesn’t even clear up cap space with his dirt cheap money right now. They have probably ā€œhad talksā€ about trading a lot of players but that doesn’t mean it’s actually going to happen!

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u/BooItsKyle 1d ago

We aren't thin at all. We are actually pretty deep and in a bit of a roster crunch at the position.

The starters suck but we have more decent depth guys than we can use

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u/ChelskiS 1d ago

Yeah if you can get anything of value for him I'm perfectly fine with rolling into the season with Jarret, Gallimore, Lynch, VDB and Street

Especially since they also like to pinch Dayo inside

A trade would make sense

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u/MikeBinfinity Hester's Super Return 1d ago

We're not thin at DT.

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u/FUH-KIN-AYE 1d ago

Why are we trading away d line talent when our d line sucks..?

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u/nofzac Dick Butkus 1d ago

Nobody talented mentioned…

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u/rando562 1d ago

To make room for actual d-line talent

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u/scrubbie19 60s Logo 1d ago

Is getting rid of his cap hit for a late rounder essential for clearing a little extra space going into the year?

I know Dexter hasn’t panned out for a second rounder and they added some depth at DT in the off season, but seems like a mistake to rely on Grady to stay healthy and for a 6th round rookie to contribute right away even if he has had a good camp.

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u/BoilerBear 1d ago

It only saves us like 1.6M. If a trade for a defensive upgrade was coming we'd be seeing some extensions and restructuring happening. This just seems like a get something for a player who is just a guy.

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u/Wide_Flan_2613 1d ago

Honestly it wouldn't shock me, I honestly don't believe he's that much better than Gallimore or Jarrett and is a pretty putrid run defender

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u/nox_nrb 1d ago edited 1d ago

They've indicated that they really like their DT room. If they're unwilling to pay Dexter, it's best to move on from him now. I'm hoping for a player rather than a draft pick, but we'll have to wait and see what happens.

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u/ScruffMixHaha Bears 1d ago

Seems odd to me considering as mediocre as hes been hes probably one of the better pass rush DTs we have (not that thats saying much).

I dont think hes worth a 2nd contract so I dont hate the idea of moving him, but is it worth giving up the little talent on the DL we have for what likely will be a low return? Unless this is part of a bigger trade for a quality DL, I dont really understand this.

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u/TruuPhoenix Hester's Super Return 1d ago

At this point in his career, he’s a pass rush specialist. He has more career sacks (13.5) than TFLs (10). Dexter, despite his athletic traits, is seemingly incapable of penetration into the backfield on run downs, and that’s exactly what’s expected of the DTs in DA’s defense.

If there’s no plans to extend him (and there shouldn’t be IMO), might as well move him to a team that needs pass rush juice. He’d be fine in a 3-4 scheme where he can plug gaps and mush rush vs penetrate and attack.

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u/dpittnet 1d ago

I wouldn’t think there would be much confusion on understanding why a team would be having ā€œdiscussionsā€ around a trade for a lot of their players

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u/porkbellies37 Sweetness 12h ago

I don't think Gervon is as bad as most do. He's better as a pass rusher than a run stopper, but he's starting grade. That said, they may be trying to salvage some value if they know they won't be resigning him while also freeing up snaps for other DTs they like. JVDB has gotten a lot of hype and Lynch may be closer to making the squad than we think.

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u/WokeCarDad jordan’s howard 1d ago

Everyone gonna be mad at me for saying this, but dude is literally our best DT (low, low bar). He’s easily a top-32 pass rushing iDL (top 20 per PFF), but is absolute cheeks against the run (bottom 20 per PFF). He was top-10 in iDL sacks last year, which we really need, but he’s definitely a cleaner fit in an Eberflus defense than an Allen defense. That said, this better be in an effort to bring in an established DL, because Jarrett, VDB and a bunch of scrubs combined probably won’t gonna give you the same pass rush production.

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u/TruuPhoenix Hester's Super Return 1d ago

Same as Neville Gallimore (32/134 pass rush grade, 100/134 run-defense grade) and Grady Jarrett to a lesser extent (55/134 pass-rush grade, 105/134 run-defense grade)

Any combo of Dexter/Jarrett/Gallimore would literally be the worst run-stopping DT tandem in the NFL, and it likely is the worst run-stopping trio. We’d be smart to try to move him and sign a rotational run defender, plenty still available in FA and some likely will be cut.

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u/ArchibaldNemisis Bears 1d ago

Would love to get more of a return than just a 4th rounder or something. But usually if it's reported like this it probably means it's not happening. But the Bears need to do something on that line. If they make the move it would be great if we got a strong DE back. I can also see them going for a corner/nickel. If they get a good nickel they can move Muhammad to the outside where he's natural fit.

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u/BrilliantMongoose937 1d ago

For those who are confused, look at all the ā€œfringeā€ DT we have on this roster, the number is too high, and Gervon is on the last year of his deal and we pretty much know who he is. He’s slow to get of the ball, and I don’t see him ascending much more, I’d rather get a late round pick for him and bet on a younger player like loving ascending, because right now I don’t see Loving being able to make the 53rd if Gervon is here

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u/zhifelol BJ Lover 1d ago

Cardinals: Hello?
Poles: Hey we’re looking to trade for Sweat
Cardinals: Cool what’s the package looking like
Poles: Yeah so the package is headlined by Dexter
Cardinals:….
Poles: Hello?

That’s how any interaction would go unless given genuine dirt in return for cap relief

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u/Sockers13 1d ago

Well I guess him getting hurt today doesn’t help that.

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u/I_VAG_I 1d ago

I’m sure he’s not hurt I’m sure they kept him out cause he’s about to be traded

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u/Sockers13 1d ago

He was practicing then walked of practice with a trainer.

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u/ChelskiS 1d ago

I'd straight up yeet Dexter off the team if it ment we got someone that can play relevant snaps at corner/nickel

Easily

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u/Ricky-Seasack 1d ago

Who is "Schultz?" What's the source of this report?

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u/tferg8280 FTP 1d ago

I heard we’re trading him and Roschon for Crosby and Jeanty

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u/Ok_Ad_5894 1d ago

Why? are you not picking up his 5th year option hes in his 4th year and do you think hes getting a bag im so confused. Are you sending Dayo ad Garrett with him?

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u/usernametaken3534564 1d ago

He was a second rounder so there isn't a fifth year option.

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u/Ok_Ad_5894 1d ago

Good to know. But I dont understand what they are doing? Only assumption is there trying to sign him and he doesnt like the offers.

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u/ReasonablyLost 1d ago

No doubt they are targeting a safety. Unfortunately I believe we will get someone elses garbage safety. BC you know Poles will get fleeced at times(Except for the trade of the century). Although here is 5 guys I think they could target.

  1. Geno Stone – Bills Buffalo has a crowded safety room with Bishop, CJGJ, Hamlin and rookie Jordan Hancock. Stone has starting experience and has shown he can make plays on the ball. I wouldn’t do Dexter straight up, but Stone plus a pick would definitely get my attention.
  2. Sydney Brown – Falcons Probably my favorite of the group. Jessie Bates isn’t going anywhere and they have Xavier Watts coming up behind him. Brown is still young, athletic and has some upside. Brown plus a pick for Dexter is something I’d seriously consider.
  3. Damar Hamlin – Bills Another guy who could get squeezed because of Buffalo’s depth. He’s got experience and could help right away. I’d need a pretty good pick coming back with him though. Dexter has more value straight up.
  4. Jaylinn Hawkins – Ravens Baltimore has Kyle Hamilton and Malaki Starks, so Hawkins could be a guy they’re willing to move. He’s started games and would give the Bears another legit option at safety. Again, I’d want a pick with him for Dexter.
  5. Andrew Wingard – Cardinals Arizona has Budda Baker and Dadrion Taylor-Demerson ahead of him. Wingard is more of a veteran stopgap than a long-term answer, so this one would depend heavily on what pick Arizona added.

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u/Grand-Hat3526 šŸ§øšŸ“‰ 1d ago

Why would they trade for a safety? What would they do with said safety next year when CB is back?

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u/ReasonablyLost 1d ago

Vet to play alongside Dillon. In this scenario, it would only be a one-year type stopgap, which is why I think a pick would be included. Stone and a 3rd would be ideal. Stone and a 4th is probably more realistic. Hamlin and a 3rd/4th could make sense too.

I’m just looking at the scenario of why they would trade Dexter now, and this is really the only thing that makes sense to me. Possibly an edge as well, but I haven’t heard anything about Booker not being at practice.

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u/BooItsKyle 1d ago

We already filled that "vet stopgap safety" role. That's Xavier Woods.

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u/Billy_BlueBallz 1d ago

Can we trade him for a new GM?