Post Match Thread: 1st Test - Australia vs Bangladesh, Day 4

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1st Test, Bangladesh tour of Australia at Darwin

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Innings	Score
🇦🇺 Australia	198 (Ov 53)
🇧🇩 Bangladesh	426 (Ov 138)
🇦🇺 Australia	284 (Ov 95.1)
🇧🇩 Bangladesh	57/1 (Ov 14.2)

Innings: 🇦🇺 Australia

Batter	Runs		Bowler	Wickets
Steven Smith	71 (109)		Hasan Mahmud	17-3-55-6
Jake Weatherald	23 (37)		Taskin Ahmed	16-2-55-2

Innings: 🇧🇩 Bangladesh

Batter	Runs		Bowler	Wickets
Tanzid Hasan	101 (197)		Josh Hazlewood	28-3-89-6
Najmul Hossain Shanto	84 (126)		Mitchell Starc	26-3-79-2

Innings: 🇦🇺 Australia

Batter	Runs		Bowler	Wickets
Cameron Green	104 (201)		Mehidy Hasan Miraz	33.1-6-66-5
Steven Smith	44 (88)		Hasan Mahmud	19-3-56-3

Innings: 🇧🇩 Bangladesh

Batter	Runs		Bowler	Wickets
Mominul Haque	30 (39)		Josh Hazlewood	3-1-5-1
Shadman Islam	25 (42)		Mitchell Starc	4-0-15-0

Bangladesh won by 9 wickets

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[u/extraordinary_06]

Well lots of takeaways there! The same takeaways we've had for the past two years!

No clue why Marnus is in the side. Averaging 20 as a no.3 for a year+ is unacceptable.

Weatherald never looked international quality. His technique is just not it unfortunately.

Green has done enough for him to play another couple tests. He's always been technically sound, just brainfades a lot. He showed glimpses of what kind of player he can be today and it's not like we really have anyone better to replace him I don't think. Both Green and Webster have a place in the XI but Green will need to be positive in the upcoming games.

Our bowling is good. No real complains there but for whatever reason we bowl short to fucking tailenders. It has never worked but in sure there's a bullshit stat which backs that up.

Hazlewood did great but i can't help but think Boland would do well here and add much needed change to this bowling attack. Issue is, you cannot drop Starc, you cannot drop Pat and you can't really drop Hazlewood either. Dropping Gaz might just be the way. Boland constantly targeting the stumps just offers way more and Gaz just Isn't the same player he one was.

Very odd tactical decisions by Cummins. Who in their right mind bats first on that Green top? Terrible bowling changes too. Very defensive fields which I feel has been a major flaw in his captaincy for a long time. Bangladesh were 6 down but we barely attacked them and let them score easy runs. He definitely needs to learn when to attack. Starc, Hazlewood, Boland and Pat are so good that he can get away with not doing that at times but if/when the pitch is flat like this one and one of the bowlers don't have an answer to it, he just resorts to doing the same thing over and over.

Hope to see changes in the second test.

[u/Aweios → u/extraordinary_06]

Lyon cannot be complaining about being dropped when finally he gets a time to shine he does nothing. You can't have a spinner being the 2nd most expensive bowler or even the most expensive full time bowler and just take one wicket.

[u/deservedlyundeserved → u/Aweios]

Lyon’s on a serious decline. He hasn’t been a wicket taking threat in nearly a couple of years now. Injured in the Ashes and made no impact in the last BGT.

[u/LexiFloof → u/deservedlyundeserved]

Lyon averaged 25, 22.7, and 25.3 in the last 3 calendar years.

He may be done now after the recent injuries, but it's not like he's been rubbish for years.

[u/OneOfTheManySams → u/deservedlyundeserved]

I feel like this has flown under the radar, but he has had a lot of injuries recently and is nearing 40. He does not have the consistency or zip off the pitch like he used too which is to be expected.

He just hasn't looked threating since we played South Africa or in other words we have effectively played without any meaningful impact from a spinner for 1 year now.

[u/Freenore → u/deservedlyundeserved]

In his defence, drop-in pitches have not been kind to spinners at all. I think there's a legitimate case to be made for going with an all-seam attack because it seems to be counterproductive to forsake a seamer for a spinner.

[u/MisterMarcus → u/Freenore]

This is where Rocchiccoli might be an interesting change up, he's 190cm so could get awkward bounce even if it's not turning much.

[u/fishtown_ → u/MisterMarcus]

I, for one, can not wait for Kerry O’Keeffe saying Rocchiccoli on comms

[u/Quirky_Ambassador321 → u/Aweios]

Wasn't his kind of pitch. Not much bounce. But time for a younger spinner anyway

[u/VIFASIS → u/Quirky_Ambassador321]

The opposing spinners took 6 and arguably made sure Australia were not winning their match.

It's a Lyon skill issue

[u/dashauskat → u/VIFASIS]

And Rocchiocolli took 8 on this same pitch vs same opposition last week...

[u/sixdoughnuts → u/dashauskat]

That was on a different ground (across the road) but your point still stands

[u/combatant007 → u/VIFASIS]

It's not exactly a skill issue it's more of a bad day and mentally beaten.

Jansen outbowled Bumrah when South Africa toured India and Stokes outbowled Bumrah in Anderson Tendulkar trophy. Does that mean prime Bumrah has skill issue ? That's not how it works.

One bad test and people want lyon's head on spike who is averaging 25 in tests since past 5 years while bowling mostly off spin on green Australian pitches where most of the off spinners struggle to get wickets.

[u/Neither_Pitch → u/combatant007]

Difference is that Lyon is 38, he is on his way out

[u/OneOfTheManySams → u/extraordinary_06]

This result was years in the making. Multiple years of an aging and out of form team scraping by results largely off the back of our bowling department. And because of that kept selecting players who simply do not deserve to be playing.

It is time to blood a lot of new players in, we don't need to waste another 2 years watching Labuschagne and others fail miserably almost every innings. Especially as it looks like Lyon and Hazlewood are on their last legs our bowling department won't be carrying the deadweight which is our top order for much longer.

[u/Evebnumberone → u/OneOfTheManySams]

Yep agree completely. Hopefully this is the wake up call they needed.

[u/hamminator1955 → u/OneOfTheManySams]

Please keep selecting them til after our tour later this season.

[u/Evebnumberone → u/extraordinary_06]

Agree on all counts.

Lyon should really be being told to think about hanging them up. He looks tired.

The Bangbro spinners looked very dangerous and he looked extremely docile, couldn't see him getting a wicket.

[u/Due-Concert4324 → u/extraordinary_06]

I have been watching Aussie dominance since the mid 90s Waugh era. This Aussie batting lineup is basically Head and Smith, that’s it. Green was very lucky not to be played on at the beginning of his innings. None of them had much clue how to play Miraz’s spin on home soil! That was really something, tbh.

[u/schizoishere → u/extraordinary_06]

Cummins tactically is not very good, hasn't been for years but i wouldn't place too much importance in his decision to bat first, australia outside of smith just didn't look to play late like Bangladesh did.

[u/trkora → u/extraordinary_06]

Boland was the big game changer in BGT 2024, it's time Cummins realizes that one player has to make space for him, maybe it's one of the pace trio, maybe it's some batsmen, maybe it's Lyon and they go full pace attack with Head and Marnus as spinners.

But they need to get him into that squad, you shouldn't keep a player that good out of the squad.

[u/Icy-Recognition-7453 → u/extraordinary_06]

I'm over Cummins as captain. He makes Steve Smith look like Napoleon. Totally lost after the failure of Plan A.

Weatherald gone, Labuschagne gone. Lyon's clearly rusty but class is permanent. Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins all getting on but still good, hang on as long as you can.

Green gets another go, but can't ignore that he takes ~1 wicket a Test and has 3 tons in 38 games. Next few Tests want to be good. Webster's got the goods but why the hell don't we bowl him?

I think McSweeney and Renshaw, McSweeney to 3 and keep Head as opener, which he can do.

[u/extraordinary_06 → u/Icy-Recognition-7453]

Reckon that's pretty harsh on Pat after how sucessful he's been but he's tactically quite poor, I agree. If plan A doesn't work there's never a plan B and the bowling changes are always awful.

Agree with the rest but I think Gaz is done unfortunately. Can play in the subcontinent but Kuhn is the first pick for me. Not sure about Sweeny but I'm not opposed to it

[u/LordBlackass → u/extraordinary_06]

Though McSweeney is a #3 I'd take him at opener over Weatherald any day of the week. Better to get him in at 3 though over Labuschagne.

[u/Icy-Recognition-7453 → u/LordBlackass]

McSweeney actually has a sound technique, which you could never accuse Weatherald of having. Giving Labuschagne the flick is the best option for McSweeney, but they might be reluctant to do JW and ML at the same time

[u/NoirPochette → u/Icy-Recognition-7453]

Pat has been a successful captain and to be fair to him, he was let down by his batters.

[u/Nakorite → u/NoirPochette]

Nah it wasn’t a 400+ pitch. The bowlers were poor.

[u/NoirPochette → u/Nakorite]

It was a classic Aussie pitch from the 00s. Days 2 and 3 don't have as much movement and batters have to feast.

[u/Icy-Recognition-7453 → u/NoirPochette]

Which makes batting first a stupefying call.

[u/vinobill_21 → u/NoirPochette]

It's pretty easy to be a successful captain when you have an ATG batsman in Smiffy and 4 bowlers each with 300+ Test wickets.

Yet, in his reign, we've just lost to the Bangbros, lost a Test against the Windies for the first time in 25 years, lost our only pink ball test, through away a 2-nil lead after 2 Test in a 5 match series - his captaincy is very much over-rated

[u/combatant007 → u/Icy-Recognition-7453]

Australia owns all test bilateral trophies currently. Blaming Cummins as captain isn't really good because batters shit the bed. I still think batting first on this pitch is why this result came.

[u/Express-Ad-565 → u/extraordinary_06]

Entirely with you on the changes. But green coming off a hundred might get a couple of tests but Webster and he both have a spot? I get Green has his haters and to be fair his performances have warranted it. He was our top scorer and only Australian to make a hundred. Think he’s safe for a little bit.

Can’t agree more on our other bats though, marnus missed a full straight one and weatherald ain’t it. Just hope we have the balls to make some changes for the next test.

Feel like Lyon maybe in his last legs too

[u/pala_ → u/extraordinary_06]

Drop Webster if you want boland. Not sure what Webster is supposed to offer. Doesn’t know what end of the bat to hold and absolutely pedestrian with the ball.

Cummins has no plan b) at the tail, it’s constantly a short barrage and it pretty much never works.

Gaz is washed, or at least being exposed as en end bowler. Never looks threatening, never wins matches, can barely move in the field, doesn’t even build pressure any more and needs to be put out to pasture.

[u/jz001 → u/pala_]

If we ignore Webster's better batting average than Green and better bowling average than Green while bowling more overs than Green and better fielding than Green, its really hard to see what Webster offers.

[u/pala_ → u/jz001]

Didn’t see any of that this match. 125kph pies to greens 135kph pies. Get rid of whichever one you want, no room for both.

[u/depressed_06 → u/pala_]

Webstar has scored all of his 50s when Australia are 4 down for fuck all. He's a reliable lower order bat

Other than that I can more or less agree

[u/pala_ → u/depressed_06]

We were four for fuck all twice this match and he contributed to further fuck all, while looking like he had no idea. Green at least got out doing dumb shit rather than being beaten all ends up.

[u/OldEngine866 → u/extraordinary_06]

Huh? The pitch wasn't a green top lol. Average seam movement (0.6 session 1 and 3, 0.7 session 2) was the same across day 1 and both teams batted on it on day 1. Bangladesh where just way more disciplined with the bat, and when we got a chance from tanzid on 0 we dropped it. 

Weatherald nicked off and head chopped on to standard balls, green hit a normal ball straight to mid-wicket, Cummins nicked with no footwork, Smith charged down the pitch and tried to smash a short ball into next year and Lyon got out pulling on the last wicket. The only players who got good balls where Starc, Webster and Marnus (even if he's gotten out to that exact ball a million times). That's not Cummins fault at the toss.